Wow, can't believe Rick Fox actually said this Live on air

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Football is a fukked up sport if you look at it objectively. I would never let me kids play football. But as long as other people want to get paid for playing it I'll watch it.

nikkas dont watch documentaries about football unless its about Bo Jackson or the greats....unfortunately it took a movie to open a lot of eyes...including my own and i've always had some reservations about the safety of the game...

cant lie though..seeing that flick and a few docs after made me not even like football anymore adn makes me glad coaches wanted their sons in over me because i can see in their eyes now that they took too many shots to the head and i'm over here good :wow:




Six things ‘Concussion’ the movie won’t tell you (but brain experts will)
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Even experts don’t know what turns concussion into CTE

Years of exposure to trauma to the head do appear to correlate with a CTE diagnosis, said Dr. Jamshid Ghajar, a neurosurgery professor at Stanford School of Medicine and president of the Brain Trauma Foundation. But there is no causal relationship between the severity of a concussion or number of concussions and CTE, he said.

“We know many, many kids hit their heads playing sports. Why do some kids develop problems, and some don’t?” asked Dr. Mark Herceg, director of neuropsychology for the brain-injury unit at Burke Rehabilitation Hospital in White Plains, N.Y. “That’s the Holy Grail in all of this.”

CTE has even been identified in nonconcussed brains, and many retired football players don’t seem to suffer from it, said Dr. Rosemarie Scolaro Moser, a neuropsychologist and the director of the Sports Concussion Center of New Jersey.

And there is even more concussion experts don’t know

“No one talks in the medical community about how much we don’t know,” said Jessica Schwartz, a spokeswoman for the American Physical Therapy Association.

There isn’t even a consensus on what a concussion is, said Ghajar.

In the broadest definition, concussions can come from even minor-seeming hits.



This doesn’t mean the end of youth sports.

All six concussion experts interviewed said we need to find better ways to keep child athletes safe—not end Little League.

Moser said she’s recently seen many high-school athlete patients come in, worried about getting CTE to the point that it’s made them anxious, depressed and panicked. “That’s a side effect of the movie we have to be vigilant about.”

“These athletes have had tens of thousands of hits and jolts to the head,” Moser said. “Your normal high-school kid hasn’t had anywhere near as many.”

Ghajar agreed: “We all like sports. Sports aren’t going away.”

Instead, it’s about “preventing and detecting properly, and then having therapy.”

Having a concussion won’t destroy your life.

Omalu only discovered the connection between CTE and football when doing an autopsy on former Pittsburgh Steelers player Mike Webster.

That, paired with high-profile football players’ suicides, means “kids all over the country ... think a concussion is a death sentence,” said Brooke de Lench, executive director of MomsTEAM Youth Sports Safety Institute.

But “bad brain cells don’t drive you to drink antifreeze or commit suicide,” Barr said. The movie is “acting like the pathology in the brain is what made them commit suicide. That’s silly. Suicide is a very complex human behavioral process.”

In fact, NFL players appear to be at lower risk for suicide than other men, according to some research.

Still, the functions a concussion impairs—cognition, thought, mood, balance and more—certainly make life more difficult, even “scary,” Schwartz said.

Getting a concussion is hardly good for your brain, of course. But having a concussion doesn’t lead straight to Omalu’s autopsy table.








 

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Six things ‘Concussion’ the movie won’t tell you (but brain experts will)
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Even experts don’t know what turns concussion into CTE

Years of exposure to trauma to the head do appear to correlate with a CTE diagnosis, said Dr. Jamshid Ghajar, a neurosurgery professor at Stanford School of Medicine and president of the Brain Trauma Foundation. But there is no causal relationship between the severity of a concussion or number of concussions and CTE, he said.

“We know many, many kids hit their heads playing sports. Why do some kids develop problems, and some don’t?” asked Dr. Mark Herceg, director of neuropsychology for the brain-injury unit at Burke Rehabilitation Hospital in White Plains, N.Y. “That’s the Holy Grail in all of this.”

CTE has even been identified in nonconcussed brains, and many retired football players don’t seem to suffer from it, said Dr. Rosemarie Scolaro Moser, a neuropsychologist and the director of the Sports Concussion Center of New Jersey.

And there is even more concussion experts don’t know

“No one talks in the medical community about how much we don’t know,” said Jessica Schwartz, a spokeswoman for the American Physical Therapy Association.

There isn’t even a consensus on what a concussion is, said Ghajar.

In the broadest definition, concussions can come from even minor-seeming hits.



This doesn’t mean the end of youth sports.

All six concussion experts interviewed said we need to find better ways to keep child athletes safe—not end Little League.

Moser said she’s recently seen many high-school athlete patients come in, worried about getting CTE to the point that it’s made them anxious, depressed and panicked. “That’s a side effect of the movie we have to be vigilant about.”

“These athletes have had tens of thousands of hits and jolts to the head,” Moser said. “Your normal high-school kid hasn’t had anywhere near as many.”

Ghajar agreed: “We all like sports. Sports aren’t going away.”

Instead, it’s about “preventing and detecting properly, and then having therapy.”

Having a concussion won’t destroy your life.

Omalu only discovered the connection between CTE and football when doing an autopsy on former Pittsburgh Steelers player Mike Webster.

That, paired with high-profile football players’ suicides, means “kids all over the country ... think a concussion is a death sentence,” said Brooke de Lench, executive director of MomsTEAM Youth Sports Safety Institute.

But “bad brain cells don’t drive you to drink antifreeze or commit suicide,” Barr said. The movie is “acting like the pathology in the brain is what made them commit suicide. That’s silly. Suicide is a very complex human behavioral process.”

In fact, NFL players appear to be at lower risk for suicide than other men, according to some research.

Still, the functions a concussion impairs—cognition, thought, mood, balance and more—certainly make life more difficult, even “scary,” Schwartz said.

Getting a concussion is hardly good for your brain, of course. But having a concussion doesn’t lead straight to Omalu’s autopsy table.







not reading all of that because of the different colors & shyt. might have a seizure lol...but not all cigarettes give smokers cancer...not all head shots will result in CTE...but you cant deny the pattern.

we shouldnt be having human beings clashing skulls like the damn titans & shyt...it isnt realistic. but poor kids will sign up until the end of time to get that check :manny:
 

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not reading all of that because of the different colors & shyt. might have a seizure lol...but not all cigarettes give smokers cancer...not all head shots will result in CTE...but you cant deny the pattern.

we shouldnt be having human beings clashing skulls like the damn titans & shyt...it isnt realistic. but poor kids will sign up until the end of time to get that check :manny:

Yea, thought the Red would be easier to read Lol. I never denied that football is a dangerous game, I actually made a point to state that in the last paragraph of my 1st post. My issue is with people having this outrage now like football somehow has gotten more dangerous in the last few years...?

So, when players were getting paralyzed, breaking limbs, and having head and neck injuries the consumption of the product was ok? Now that there is a movie about CTE (watch isn't a 100% accurate) now football is bad!?!

Why is soccer not villainized every time some hits the ball with their head...

Why is boxing or MMA not villainized boxing whenever a punch is thrown

Why is hockey not villainized whenever they knock someone into the glass

Look no further then this thread to show how football seems to be the face of CTE... as someone referred to football as CTEball..

No one says anything about the condition of Muhammad Ali and him boxing in general... As a matter of fact they say "He should have stopped fighting before he did." Never hear, he shouldn't have been partaking in the barbaric, gladiator sport at all

If Rick Fox stopped watching football because of CTE, I hope he doesn't watch; MMA, Boxing, Hockey, Amateur Wrestling, Pro Wrestling, and Soccer. If he doesn't know, CTE is real in those sports as well!!!!!

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wow...I think my lack of interest in football could be traced back to when I saw this movie.
 

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I feel the same way about basketball when the refs made sure the lakers would beat Kings
You mean when Stern made sure to stretch the series because he didn't want another 15-1 run. The Lakers were on their way to sweeping the Kings and the fukkery of Game 2 happened and then 5 and 6. Then the Kings choked in Game 7. Damn near had the series handed to them and they choke.
 

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You mean when Stern made sure to stretch the series because he didn't want another 15-1 run. The Lakers were on their way to sweeping the Kings and the fukkery of Game 2 happened and then 5 and 6. Then the Kings choked in Game 7. Damn near had the series handed to them and they choke.

FACTS!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Funny y'all don't use this same logic with last year's Finals.

What does last year's finals have to do with the Kings and Lakers playing in the conference finals over 15 years prior? nikka the Warriors are the flukest team of all time, don't even put them in the same thought as the GOAT franchise Boss Angeles Laker 3peat teams.
 

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Just finished watching NBA highlights on NBA TV

It was towards the end of the show, and Matt Winer asked Aldrigde and Fox who they're gonna root for in the Superbowl
Then all of a sudden Rick Fox said "You know, I have fallen out of interest in football. Ever since I watched that movie Concussion, I have no desire to watch it"





Don't know whether to laugh out loud or to be shocked as hell :wow:



can't blame him, NFL tried every possible way to do it's own players dirty
 

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You mean when Stern made sure to stretch the series because he didn't want another 15-1 run. The Lakers were on their way to sweeping the Kings and the fukkery of Game 2 happened and then 5 and 6. Then the Kings choked in Game 7. Damn near had the series handed to them and they choke.
Sorry to shatter your nostalgic fan view of the events but refs were biased for the Lakers, not the other way around. 27 free throws in the 4th. Donaghy confirmed it.
 
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