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Listen to Havoc at the very end.
Then listen to P rapping here...
My thought is P probably wrote it...if Hav had written it, P wouldn't have been able to recite it off the top of the head like that.
WTF?? KRS-ONE co-signs Drake using a Ghostwriter.
Listen to Havoc at the very end.
Then listen to P rapping here...
My thought is P probably wrote it...if Hav had written it, P wouldn't have been able to recite it off the top of the head like that.
what are the criteria for a top MC to you?
I think when he says that he'd say a line/verse Rakim wrote, is just him acknowledging that the R is one of the dopest ever. It's hypothetical, and it's KRS who himself believes that it's dope, so I doubt he'd ever really let that happen.
On ghostwriting, I doubt that everyone has written 100% of their stuff. It's damn near impossible. Especially in groups. You're always gonna have a line thrown at you from someone else. Then you have tracks that let's say you wrote it but need another voice to make it work - I think that's acceptable. That's where you get your Geto Boyz stuff, or take a track like The Watch (Ghost/Rae)...I would believe that Ghost wrote the entire thing, and Rae just spit those few lines for contrast. Or "finish this bar, but use mine first." That doesn't diminish anything. Then you have the quotes from previous artist. They used to quote them, but that stopped. HELL, about 25% of Jay post '98 is Biggie lines. Black Thought did a G-Rap & Kane verse on a track. That doesn't affect his status at all. I don't see a credible lyricist or MC spitting an ENTIRE SONG penned by someone else, unless it's someone close that died.
Ghostwriting has always existed in hip-hop and never gonna change. Of course it's acceptable since it one of the traits of music. However, I've said before that hip-hop artists don't get enough credit as writers. My mans said that it's because there's too many of them. There are only like 10 R&B writers.
On ghostwriting, I doubt that everyone has written 100% of their stuff. It's damn near impossible. Especially in groups. You're always gonna have a line thrown at you from someone else. Then you have tracks that let's say you wrote it but need another voice to make it work - I think that's acceptable. That's where you get your Geto Boyz stuff, or take a track like The Watch (Ghost/Rae)...I would believe that Ghost wrote the entire thing, and Rae just spit those few lines for contrast. Or "finish this bar, but use mine first." That doesn't diminish anything. Then you have the quotes from previous artist. They used to quote them, but that stopped. HELL, about 25% of Jay post '98 is Biggie lines. Black Thought did a G-Rap & Kane verse on a track. That doesn't affect his status at all. I don't see a credible lyricist or MC spitting an ENTIRE SONG penned by someone else, unless it's someone close that died.
Ghostwriting has always existed in hip-hop and never gonna change. Of course it's acceptable since it one of the traits of music. However, I've said before that hip-hop artists don't get enough credit as writers. My mans said that it's because there's too many of them. There are only like 10 R&B writers.
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why are you lying?
To follow up, until Quentin said he did, its just speculation...you do know how evidence works right?
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lmfao evidence is already out there and quentin certainly did not say he didnt write for drake that is a straight up lie.
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Easy neg.
He said that him having writers diminishes his status in the face of people who wield their own pen...the headline don't exactly tell the story here.
That's true but I brought it up to counter the idea that nobody took Drake serious as a rapper. Obviously that's not the case.
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Honestly, you gotta write your own shyt. It's not like rappers are singing or playing instruments.
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That was purely financial. J Prince has always been a snake. I fully expect him to be behind any industry plants.
granted this Happened earlier
But twista came out and said he used Ghostwriters before
I made a thread about it
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/twista-admits-to-using-a-ghostwriter.382729/