WWE PLE’s headed to ESPN starting in 2026

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Thavoiceofthevoiceless said:
The fundamental problem with his comment is that casuals have never viewed wrestling as a sport no matter how hard everyone has tried and moving it to this partnership with ESPN isn't going to change that.

It will always be sports entertainment due to the pre-determination aspect of things and why this partnership is doomed to fail if that's their plan.
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Yeah the perception of wrestling outside of the fandom is still that it's a fixed sport, not a fictional show about a sport. And when you view wrestling through that lens you see absolutely no reason to bother with it
 
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The Intergalactic Koala said:
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:wow:We truly deserved this:

  • For now letting the WWE cook
  • For wanting an inmate to run the yard (Hunter Hits Prison Bars)
  • For not seeing that the frail broken Comicbook Mastering Phil is just a worker
  • For not seeing the bigger picture outside a superdave ass wrestler that ended up leaving period
  • For not letting the Thunderdome cook
  • For yelling Been Wahs name and wanting him to be in the HOF
  • For not seeing that Vince, while a goofy business carny, knew how to make money and saved money
  • For not trusting in the process
  • For relying on fukkheads like Meltzer and em, instead of just enjoying wrestling
  • Not seeing that there's layers to this shyt and wrestling is still a business
  • For not spending 9.99 in a steady growing economy, but pirating and illegal streaming leading up to a WOAT economy
  • Hijacking the shows
  • Putting too much faith in Triple Raids the Indies, instead of seeing that the WWE bubble was more successful
  • For not seeing those endeavors made and broken wrestlers that either needed to go somewhere else, or work at UPS
  • For laughing at "Stand Back"
  • For dikkriding Hoegan despite him damn near destroying the WWF during the steroid trial
  • For not believing in his views on black talent (warped but it gave us Kofimania for a spell)
  • For mocking Du Rag Vince
  • For crucifying him when other "celebrated" bookers done worse (word to Invader 2)
This is all on us and quite frankly, it needs to happen for the machine to self-destruct. You can't expect a machine to keep going, when the mastermind is no longer apart from the body.

Its like having the Megazord without the Power Rangers to help move the unit.
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fukk vince.

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MushroomX said:
Nah, I would call this, "We should have cherished the moments even more."

Just like a Hall of Fame QB leaving, its very hard to replicate the same success.

Vince will eventually die, and what is happening now, would have happened after he passed.
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What moments.

fukk vince.

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Saysumthinfunnymike said:
All this shyt about "more spectacle" on the PLEs... This muthafukka just FAILED with Cena's heel turn. It should have been a slam dunk and they had to pivot because it wasn't working and then didn't even explain it.

How about working on the creative side and fixing that? :mjtf:
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After the suicide squad failed with cena.
Should have been an indicator.
The imagery in the pow camp in suicide squad.
Showcased imagery.
that said it would be in bad poor taste. to turn cena back heel.
even a fast and furious movie franchise. Where cena died. Indicated cena as a heel was in bad taste. They did not even make cena dress corporate in short blue slack shorts. A red rip away tie, white dreasshirt and his blue trump like blazer. It just showed how trash wwe has been forever.
That now there is no vince to shyt on fans. Now they realize the gsrbage they been feed is trash.
Well news flash the shyt been trash since hogun
like i been telling ya.

Now maybe you will realize.
your intelligence has been getting insulted for decades.

This company been inept.
since i was a kid. Living off mr t and being racist as fukk. fukk the wwe.

I been telling ya this. Now maybe you will come to the realization. you been getting played watching wwe. Liie i been telling ya in print for decades now.


It was never good.

This not a personal attack because i am replying to your quote either. This is for people who on the fence and still confused. About the trash quality of wwe programming as a whole.

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drifter said:


I'm retired from interacting with 99% of this board and really IWC as a whole. The only exception being pics threads. It's made viewing wrestling a lot better not being part of echo chambers or reading shyt daily by people with mental needs. But when I saw the news I had to come here and...y'all didn't disappoint

Wrestling fans have this innate ability, whether here, Reddit, Twitter, doesn't matter where, to be completely and totally wrong on anything and everything outside the bubble of wrestling. Including the business of wrestling. Then double down on the mental gymnastics and conclusions that only ever existed in their heads. It's like you all have opinions you think these company need to follow on TV weekly, now you know better than execs handling billion dollar grossing entities for a living. It isn't just a TKO, you all did the same thing with Vince.

This guy and a lot of the rest of you thinking you have one brain cell to offer Nick Khan about his handlings is wild. IWC said the Netflix deal was bad, they'll cancel the deal because of Vince, other shyt you came up with hyperventilating off scenarios you made up. Raw is consistently a top viewed program for Netflix. Let the IWC tell it, wrestling fans have been priced out, they're still selling out venues and hitting near sellouts. At the very least the shows are fuller than 2019 while costing more, while a depression is coming off of Trump. How can Nick Khan be wrong about so much and the IWC be right about it all, yet Nick's the one signing these billion dollar deals and the price structures so far are working, while IWC ain't been asked to sign shyt. They just keep waiting for the next boogeyman that'll "sink the ship". Thought that kind of shyt was supposed to stop with Vince...yeah

Anyway man, carry on. I just thought it was crazy reading comments here and elsewhere about things nobody outside Nick/Ari have the data or enough insight to be having opinions on, having opinions. Not even defending money hunger, if the shyt ain't for you cool then let them know and not watch. Let the ones that actually have an idea about 2030 in 2025 worry about what things look like in 5 years.

If things don't work they'll feel it. They seem to think they'll be fine and if I'm honest they most likely will be. People in the "just watching WWE" category on Netflix & Peacock are most likely few and between. This is aimed to hook more casuals by putting wrestling right next to real sports and further legitimize wrestling as sport instead of just the carnival with steel chairs. But until then when things stop working, take the rest of the summer off and kick your feet up tiger.
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Although I personally can’t stand the ESPN app or how they operate—it’s clunky, bloated, and feels like it’s actively trying to ruin my user experience—I 100% agree with you on the bigger picture.

This board is tough to stomach outside of major announcements. Every time I drop in for actual news, it’s like déjà vu—the same recycled rage, the same half-baked “hot takes,” and the same echo chamber of people confidently speaking on things they clearly don’t understand. It’s exhausting.


What gets me is how many folks here speak like they’re running billion-dollar operations from their basement. Most of them probably aren’t even managing a shift at Applebee’s, let alone navigating TV rights deals and corporate partnerships. But somehow, they’ve got all the answers.


These are the same people who trashed the $9.99 Network model, whined when Peacock launched, and now look back on those with misty-eyed nostalgia like it was the golden era. History rewrites itself fast when it’s fueled by frustration instead of facts.


But you nailed it—it’s this modern mindset: “Just because I don’t understand it doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion.” And sure, everyone’s entitled to one. But not all opinions are equal. Some are informed, and some are just noise with a strong Wi-Fi connection.

Until people start recognizing the difference, the cycle will never change
 
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Rayzah said:
Although I personally can’t stand the ESPN app or how they operate—it’s clunky, bloated, and feels like it’s actively trying to ruin my user experience—I 100% agree with you on the bigger picture.
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The guy you quoted didn't offer anything in the way of analysis. What are you talking about? He was screaming on someone about this being a "good deal" for WWE and nobody in here said it wasn't :dead:

Did some people point out that UFC's PPV business has died under the ESPN umbrella? Yes, absolutely because there's data out there that shows that.

Other than that, the thread has been people giving their own personal opinions and giving takes on whether of not they will be buying the app and the rest is speculation about who might already get the app at no additional charges.

Cord cutters who are already paying for Netflix and one or two other streamers might not want to also pay for the ESPN app. That's not a wild take.

The guy you quoted "came out of retirement" to say a whole lot of nothing.
 
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Saysumthinfunnymike said:
The guy you quoted didn't offer anything in the way of analysis. What are you talking about? He was screaming on someone about this being a "good deal" for WWE and nobody in here said it wasn't :dead:

Did some people point out that UFC's PPV business has died under the ESPN umbrella? Yes, absolutely because there's data out there that shows that.

Other than that, the thread has been people giving their own personal opinions and giving takes on whether of not they will be buying the app and the rest is speculation about who might already get the app at no additional charges.

Cord cutters who are already paying for Netflix and one or two other streamers might not want to also pay for the ESPN app. That's not a wild take.

The guy you quoted "came out of retirement" to say a whole lot of nothing.
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dumb cac sounds mad as fukk :russ:

he also got double the amount of posts in this thread than anybody else :dead:
 
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uhh yeah..
it’s MY thread :mjlol:

4 million views too btw :win:
soon to be 5

the biggest draw in TSC :umad:
 
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