WWE stole Prince Puma too?

[Art Barr]

ROH been paying their top guys lately. And ROH right now is better than ever.

There will always be talent for the Indy's no matter how many guys wwe signs. They'd have to start like 3 more NXT's

Not really,....
The age of the Indy heroes who saved wrasslin is over with and there is no boom to create more Indy heroes like the one of the past Gen at all.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Top tier talent still out there:

Jay Lethal
Chris Hero
Zack Sabre Jr.
Ricochet
Dalton Castle
Joey Ryan
Santana Garrett
Ivelisse
Mia Yim/Jade
Allysin Kay

And the list goes on.

No it does not and castle and lethal including the unmentioned cleaner are the only ones really left from the guard of Indy heroes, who saved wrasslin.


Art Barr

 

[Jmare007]

Top tier talent still out there:

Jay Lethal
Chris Hero
Zack Sabre Jr.
Ricochet
Dalton Castle
Joey Ryan
Santana Garrett
Ivelisse
Mia Yim/Jade
Allysin Kay

And the list goes on.

Joey Ryan is not damn top tier talent he can't have a good singles match to safe his life. He's just good at sleazy indy fukkery, the kind of stuff he can't do on national tv and it's not really needed honestly

 

[Wacky D]

No it does not and castle and lethal including the unmentioned cleaner are the only ones really left from the guard of Indy heroes, who saved wrasslin.


Art Barr

theres a new guard coming up and puma is at the forefront.

besides, half the guys that jumped to NXT are on the downside anyway, just getting that payday and possibly a fresh run. plus, the more people you bring in, the more crowded it gets, and theres gonna be people heading out with TV credentials to their names that will keep the indies fresh.

I mean, those NXT checkbooks are definitely hurting the game, but as long as theres still a good amount of people staying away from it, we'll be okay.

 

[Art Barr]

theres a new guard coming up and puma is at the forefront.

besides, half the guys that jumped to NXT are on the downside anyway, just getting that payday and possibly a fresh run. plus, the more people you bring in, the more crowded it gets, and theres gonna be people heading out with TV credentials to their names that will keep the indies fresh.

I mean, those NXT checkbooks are definitely hurting the game, but as long as theres still a good amount of people staying away from it, we'll be okay.

You just saying that because you may not remember before the Indy heroes sprang up.
After ecw was raided.
there was no new talent other than daniels and more than likely modest.
Till aj showed up, the Indies were dead!
You do realize this is WWE's plan to destroy the indy's and restart their in-house creation of grapplers that failed during all the time they fronted on the Indy heroes.
The Indy heroes of wrasslin are called so.
All because they were the last hope to high quality wrasslin and pretty much the last.


Art Barr

 

[Wacky D]

You just saying that because you may not remember before the Indy heroes sprang up.
After ecw was raided.
there was no new talent other than daniels and more than likely modest.
Till aj showed up, the Indies were dead!
You do realize this is WWE's plan to destroy the indy's and restart their in-house creation of grapplers that failed during all the time they fronted on the Indy heroes.
The Indy heroes of wrasslin are called so.
All because they were the last hope to high quality wrasslin and pretty much the last.


Art Barr

yea, I'm from philly cannon. we bout that indie life. the old WGTW channel 48 had a different promotion on every night of the week back in 02-03.

sure, the indies were dead when wcw & ecw were around because you had TWO major companies signing up everybody, and a 3rd wheel promotion operating as a super-indie. but once wcw & ecw were over, the indies started poppin again by '02-03. shoot, CZW & XPW had already started getting theres in 00-01.

I'm just saying, I don't think the indies are gonna die off until another big money ruthless mogul comes along like a ted turner. cuz everybody isn't gonna take the bait. right now, it seems like its mostly the vets signing to WWE/NXT that are looking for that payday. doesn't seem like most of the guys hitting their prime are in as much of a rush to risk sitting on the shelf of a brand that isn't even on TV.

now if they bring back the brand-split, that may be the nail in the coffin. I cant front.

 

[Art Barr]

yea, I'm from philly cannon. we bout that indie life. the old WGTW channel 48 had a different promotion on every night of the week back in 02-03.

sure, the indies were dead when wcw & ecw were around because you had TWO major companies signing up everybody, and a 3rd wheel promotion operating as a super-indie. but once wcw & ecw were over, the indies started poppin again by '02-03. shoot, CZW & XPW had already started getting theres in 00-01.

I'm just saying, I don't think the indies are gonna die off until another big money ruthless mogul comes along like a ted turner. cuz everybody isn't gonna take the bait. right now, it seems like its mostly the vets signing to WWE/NXT that are looking for that payday. doesn't seem like most of the guys hitting their prime are in as much of a rush to risk sitting on the shelf of a brand that isn't even on TV.

now if they bring back the brand-split, that may be the nail in the coffin. I cant front.

No xpw was never poppin and you know I know that.
The indy's became poppin solely from the traveling daniels vs styles series and transistioned to Sabin, styles, daniels and grew from there.
If not for daniels being left for dead in the indy's there is no Indy heroes moving forward and wrasslin would have died.
Just like right now, after this raid wrasslin will die in a domestic capacity.
After Cole is raided.
It pretty much is dead for indy's.
After aj and the Indy heroes are gone from the WWE.


Art Barr

 

[Wacky D]

No xpw was never poppin and you know I know that.
The indy's became poppin solely from the traveling daniels vs styles series and transistioned to Sabin, styles, daniels and grew from there.
If not for daniels being left for dead in the indy's there is no Indy heroes moving forward and wrasslin would have died.
Just like right now, after this raid wrasslin will die in a domestic capacity.
After Cole is raided.
It pretty much is dead for indy's.
After aj and the Indy heroes are gone from the WWE.


Art Barr

ehh, XPW used to draw some big ass crowds.

cole turned down the WWE, last I checked.

 

[Art Barr]

ehh, XPW used to draw some big ass crowds.

cole turned down the WWE, last I checked.

Cole should have turned down the WWE cause he lacks the physique which can be deflected onto via injury.
Now, if he ramps.....
I see him jumping.

Xpw was never worth watching and you know I know cause Candido was the champ of the promotion.
That even trying to stick around after that was highly unlikely because the quality was so piss poor.

Aj and daniels singlehandidly saved Indy wrasslin,.....

Art Barr