WWE Universe Decides The GOAT Faction In History

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Theres a lot or generational bias in these discussions. I'm not saying i think the shield is better than the nation personally but once you put era bias aside (and the fact that the nation launched the greatest wrestler of all time..), I see how one could say the shield is better..as far as output of quality work during the time they were together. The shield was reliable and could give you a dope tag or 6 man match on any given week and they did it consistently for like 2 years.

In fact thats why I'll put them above evolution, who doesn't actually have a single classic match, segment or promo together to speak of. They're hyped because of the individual careers the members had. The breakup was doper than the actual run...the 'thumbs down' segment where they kicked out randy orton >>> everything they did while together. Everything.
 

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On the coli - Nobody paid attention to DX, The ministry of Darkness were more popular

In real life - DX is officially regarded as the GOAT faction in wrestling history :umad:

Never change coli :pachaha:
 

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On the coli - Nobody paid attention to DX, The ministry of Darkness were more popular

In real life - DX is officially regarded as the GOAT faction in wrestling history :umad:

Never change coli :pachaha:

These neckbeards would have booked Damien Sandow v Ryder as the main event of Wrasslemania if they had their way
 
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On the coli - Nobody paid attention to DX, The ministry of Darkness were more popular

In real life - DX is officially regarded as the GOAT faction in wrestling history :umad:

No one is saying that DX is Social Outcasts level, it's almost a consensus that NWO & DX are #1 & #2. IMO, OG NWO is #1.
 

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No one is saying that DX is Social Outcasts level, it's almost a consensus that NWO & DX are #1 & #2. IMO, OG NWO is #1.
Don't think I was just gonna let these comments slide without being shamed :francis:



The DX factions were never, ever, ever that big. If not for the Austin platform he kicked off and them being a comedy nwo ripoff, you wouldn't even know who they are.
imho, the Ministry of Darkness should have gone over DX.
I don't think anyone was even really watching OG DX like that...Tyson made them hot, .


These neckbeards would have booked Damin Sandow v Ryder as the main event of Wrasslemania if they had their way

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Give @R=G, @MrSinnister or some of these other neckbeards the book and WWE doesn't live to see Wrestlemania 33 :wow:
 

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I'd pick NWO as having the biggest impact on the industry, and The Horsemen as the most entertaining.

Wouldn't complain at all if they went with an earlier version of DX, that's definitely a valid opinion too. They were revolutionary. That was HBK at his absolute peak as a heel, HHH on the rise, and Chyna being unlike anything the industry had ever seen before. NAO and X-Pac were good fits. But now they pretend Chyna never existed.

The 2-man version of DX was obviously still great in the ring, but just embarrassing in their attempts at comedy. I will never understand why they (especially Shawn) had to be portrayed as idiots. Their promos and backstage segments were not entertaining in the least.

Evolution was a great concept that to me always seemed better on paper than in practice.
 

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Don't think I was just gonna let these comments slide without being shamed :francis:

How long did DX even exist as a cohesive unit? :heh:

The original two-man DX, which formed in 1997, was really just HBK doing HBK things. Most people don't even consider that to be the authoritative lineup for DX anymore, but more of a precursor. So then in 1998, Michaels leaves and Triple H reforms the group with X-Pac and the New Age Outlaws. That lineup lasts for one year, which is when all of the "classic" DX moments happened. In 1999, Triple H and Chyna join The Corporation and the group breaks up. At that point, there's no more DX, apart from Road Dogg and X-Pac tagging. The group reforms in late 1999, but then in early 2000, Triple H marries Stephanie and eventually gets help from Vince at Mania. DX merges into the "McMahon-Helmsley Faction" and slowly becomes irrelevant as an independent unit. By the end of 2000, they break up and don't reform until 2006, as something of a tribute act.

So really, we've got one solid DX run in 1998. And even then they were bit players compared to the likes of Austin, Rock, Undertaker, and arguably even Mankind. The idea of DX being the greatest stable in wrestling history is really just the WWE's effort to rewrite history (again). You can tell by the way the brackets are structured.

Notice how certain factions are broken up into subunits. For example, the Corporation and the Ministry of Darkness are two separate factions, even though they merged into the Corporate Ministry, which was bigger and cooler than both. The Brood is also on there as a separate unit, even though they didn't hit their stride until they merged into the Ministry. The NWO is split into NWO (original) and NWO (Wolfpac).

But you'll notice they never ever split DX. There's no DX (HBK and HHH), DX (Army), and DX (McMahon-Helmsley Faction). They count everything Triple H and Michaels did in green shirts as DX. Nonsense.
 
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How long did DX even exist as a cohesive unit? :heh:

The original two-man DX, which formed in 1997, was really just HBK doing HBK things. Most people don't even consider that to be the authoritative lineup for DX anymore, but more of a precursor. So then in 1998, Michaels leaves and Triple H reforms the group with X-Pac and the New Age Outlaws. That lineup lasts for one year, which is when all of the "classic" DX moments happened. In 1999, Triple H and Chyna join The Corporation and the group breaks up. At that point, there's no more DX, apart from Road Dogg and X-Pac tagging. The group reforms in late 1999, but then in early 2000, Triple H marries Stephanie and eventually gets help from Vince at Mania. DX merges into the "McMahon-Helmsley Faction" and slowly becomes irrelevant as an independent unit. By the end of 2000, they break up and don't reform until 2006, as something of a tribute act.

So really, we've got one solid DX run in 1998. And even then they were bit players compared to the likes of Austin, Rock, Undertaker, and arguably even Mankind. The idea of DX being the greatest stable in wrestling history is really just the WWE's effort to rewrite history (again). You can tell by the way the brackets are structured.

Notice how certain factions are broken up into subunits. For example, the Corporation and the Ministry of Darkness are two separate factions, even though they merged into the Corporate Ministry, which was bigger and cooler than both. the NWO is split into NWO (original) and NWO (Wolfpac).

But you'll notice they never ever split DX. There's no DX (HBK and HHH), DX (Army) and DX (McMahon-Helmsley Faction). They count everything Triple H and Michaels did in green shirts as DX. Nonsense.

you typed an essay of bullshyt, congrats :mjlol:
 

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How did The Shield beat The Nation of Domination :wtf:

How did DX beat The Shield :wtf:
 

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How long did DX even exist as a cohesive unit? :heh:

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Stopped reading here pretty much :ehh: Ministry of Flabbness was only around 7 months and included Mideon which automatically excludes them from being GOAT. DX had more major runs than the amount of months that group even lasted for :russ:.
 

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Stopped reading here pretty much :ehh: Ministry of Flabbness was only around 7 months and included Mideon which automatically excludes them from being GOAT. DX had more major runs than the amount of months that group even lasted for :russ:.

Is Road Dogg really > Mideon though. :hmm:
 

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How did I get thrown in this? WWE copied my idea for Cesaro word for word. Watch how over he gets, as he had some nice progression with Tyson Kidd. I'm not real big on Sandow having the belt going into a WM, but he had at least earned carrying the belt and being in the ME scene before whatever it is that happened to kill his push dead. Cena killed him deader than dead, as dude has his arm destroyed and Sandow hit him with everything and still lost the cash in. :pacspit: on WWE for doing that.

The Wyatt Family had the potential to be the GOAT faction in a short period of time, as well as League of Nations if they hadn't turned them into straight :trash: and comedy tools. Wyatts and Rusev got the same Cena curse, and everyone thought a feud with Cena at WM was good for their careers at the time :comeon:.....:mjlol:.

I knew it wasn't, and there is a lot of emotional investment, by the fans, in those characters before the Cena feeding. Hell, Bray had just beat the eventual champion, Daniel Bryan, before his buzzsaw feud. WrestleMania 30 results: John Cena pins Bray Wyatt

"If you're unfamiliar with Bray Wyatt, he's the best character that WWE has introduced in years. He leads a Louisiana bayou cult called the Wyatt Family and gives passionate promos in language that's equally cryptic and poetic. In real life, he was a Division I offensive lineman and he wrestles like you'd expect a Division I offensive lineman to wrestle. He's put on incredible matches with Daniel Bryan and The Shield coming into WrestleMania, and everything about his recent work suggested he was ready for the step up to the big time -- a WrestleMania match with John Cena."

Give me the booker's jacket, and I'd have the WWE flush with cash and satisfaction, without hurting their main pushes. The pushes have to simply make sense in the storyline, which is the main problem the WWE has right now. You lot want to blame the fans for not liking the shyt they're forced to eat instead, which only makes sense if you're a spoiled brat.

Anywah...NWO is the GOAT faction, flooded by Evolution, Four Horsemen, Shield, and #5 too close to call so I'll leave vacant.
 
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