Xzibit call out AGEISM in Hip hop
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Pure Water
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Now more than any other time in Hip-Hop existence is the perfect time for the older generation to make music. The young guys are pure ass now. The median age for popular Hip-Hop artist is getting higher and higher each year.
As an older artist, you may not sell a lot, but you can still produce music and tour off of your legacy fanbase.
The simple fact of the matter is though; a lot of older Hip-Hop artist feel as if they ain't got shyt to talk about anymore. It's as if they feel their current life experiences aren't enough. That just shows a lack of creativity in my eyes.
As an older artist, you may not sell a lot, but you can still produce music and tour off of your legacy fanbase.
The simple fact of the matter is though; a lot of older Hip-Hop artist feel as if they ain't got shyt to talk about anymore. It's as if they feel their current life experiences aren't enough. That just shows a lack of creativity in my eyes.
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
They're right.
And I still think that's by design with the labels. They brought that ageism sh*t in the culture to have more control over the younger artists.
And I still think that's by design with the labels. They brought that ageism sh*t in the culture to have more control over the younger artists.
reading this made me think "what emcee cares that much these days about being respected?" and it reminded me that brownsville Ka is dead. sean price is dead. so many of these dudes died before their time. im totally with what youre saying but i dont see it happening man. bums me the fukk out
chuck d has kept it 100% since like what, 1984? how many people are checking for the latest PE album?
CrossBones
Louder than words
Why should you stop talking about life now that you're older? Are we supposed to listen to youngsters tell us about life forever? So long as you're not dumbing yourself down you should still have a voice as you get older. Speak the truth and show them how to move and prosper.
MajesticLion
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there it is 
Redwood
Superstar
People like the Game and Camron made fun of Jay Z for being “old” at 37 20 years ago but the “big 3” are all older than that.
“Hov did that so hopefully you wouldn’t have to go through that”
“Hov did that so hopefully you wouldn’t have to go through that”
Tribal Outkast
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Great ass point!People like the Game and Camron made fun of Jay Z for being “old” at 37 20 years ago but the “big 3” are all older than that.
“Hov did that so hopefully you wouldn’t have to go through that”
Maybe fans are coming around without knowing it. Imagine some rapper calling Kendrick out for being old
Nas still going strong and he's going to be 51
3 Stacks on the other hand
Nas is one rapper. There's way more rappers in his peer group who either aren't releasing music or the music they're releasing is sub par. The rappers older than them aren't being being checked for at all or retired.
Don't be mad at Andre for verbalizing what most old rappers feel. They either have nothing more to say or have outgrown the industry.
Nah. Rap was always about the younger guys pushing the old guys out or they changed things to where the older generation couldn't keep up.
Kool Moe Dee ended the Busy Bee, simple party chant rap era.
Kane admitted he couldn't adapt from the 80's sound to the 90's sound.
Put the music aside and just look at appearance. How many times have we clowned old rappers for dressing half their age or following trends. It's hard to be cool in the rap game once you age.
The best way to do it is to avoid the mainstream and just release music on your own terms the way Roc Marci does or Ka and DOOM did. It's just tough for artists who were used to having the machine behind them and mainstream success to go to being a niche underground artist. You were going gold and platinum now you're looking at selling 20k.
It's hard to keep a young audience. They outgrow you and vice versa.
I love Latina women
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Nas still going strong and he's going to be 51
3 Stacks on the other hand
Everybody is different
I don’t blame Andre for moving on since his heart ain’t in it no more
He found a new way to express himself and it works for him
Redwood
Superstar
Great ass point!
Maybe fans are coming around without knowing it. Imagine some rapper calling Kendrick out for being old
Don't speak too soon
One of the most exaggerated things ever.
People be like "Hey this rock band (that sold 100 million records and was the biggest thing out when there was only like 2 commercial genres for 7 years straight) still touring, this rapper (that went gold once and barely charted in the top 100 from the 80s) should be on the same level!!"
Old rappers are still touring, Wu-tang and Nas had a big as show, 50 cent sold out tour, Jay-z sold out tours, Eminem if he does it sold out, Dre x Snoop first rappers to headline the super bowl etc. Diddy did his tour, JD did his tour. I mean this are heavy hitters.
Rappers that did small venues in the 90s are still doing small venues, why do people expect them to turn into Metallica because they are legends. Unless you were Metallica in your peak, you probably won't become Metallica when you "retire"
As far as old rock bands, they are not really selling major records unless it's the biggest of the biggest like David Bowie or Rolling stones and they can barely sell records like a random artist like Schoolboy Q (in the US).
Other than that, old-head talk, is just ordinary hood ninja bs.
Xzibit is just mad that nobody cares about his shyt, it's not cause he's old it's cause he's trash
People be like "Hey this rock band (that sold 100 million records and was the biggest thing out when there was only like 2 commercial genres for 7 years straight) still touring, this rapper (that went gold once and barely charted in the top 100 from the 80s) should be on the same level!!"
Old rappers are still touring, Wu-tang and Nas had a big as show, 50 cent sold out tour, Jay-z sold out tours, Eminem if he does it sold out, Dre x Snoop first rappers to headline the super bowl etc. Diddy did his tour, JD did his tour. I mean this are heavy hitters.
Rappers that did small venues in the 90s are still doing small venues, why do people expect them to turn into Metallica because they are legends. Unless you were Metallica in your peak, you probably won't become Metallica when you "retire"
As far as old rock bands, they are not really selling major records unless it's the biggest of the biggest like David Bowie or Rolling stones and they can barely sell records like a random artist like Schoolboy Q (in the US).
Other than that, old-head talk, is just ordinary hood ninja bs.
Xzibit is just mad that nobody cares about his shyt, it's not cause he's old it's cause he's trash
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He's right but I don't see media or labels making any effort to promote legacy acts instead of focusing on the younger demographic who wants to feel like their music matters and is relevant. That's where the money is being made, and what's moving the needle in terms of influence
Rap is not the same as Rock. Classic Rock exists because modern Rock never really caught on like that, or had no staying power commercially. Rap and Country are still king, therefore new artists are going thru the system and being promoted to certain demographics with certain strategies etc
We saw that when Complex was publishing bullshyt like "Migos > The Beatles" and all the promo that went into the XXL Freshmen list when that mattered... That was also like ten years if not more
That shyt is already outdated so where does Xzibit fit in? shyt, wherever he can get in I think. I'm excited for his album but the millennial (and older) demographic isnt getting much ad dollars or attention from anywhere.
Old heads need to be honest here lol are we generating any type of meaningful revenue or influence worth the potential ad-spend? Or do we just like what we like and support the stuff we grew up on... We ain't buying the clothes and the shoes, following the brands and fanning out like that
For any artist like Xzibit, that's 30 years into this shyt and still getting some conversation around them, is pretty notable and it's nice to see him getting some promo and attention off this album even as it is
Rap is not the same as Rock. Classic Rock exists because modern Rock never really caught on like that, or had no staying power commercially. Rap and Country are still king, therefore new artists are going thru the system and being promoted to certain demographics with certain strategies etc
We saw that when Complex was publishing bullshyt like "Migos > The Beatles" and all the promo that went into the XXL Freshmen list when that mattered... That was also like ten years if not more
That shyt is already outdated so where does Xzibit fit in? shyt, wherever he can get in I think. I'm excited for his album but the millennial (and older) demographic isnt getting much ad dollars or attention from anywhere.
Old heads need to be honest here lol are we generating any type of meaningful revenue or influence worth the potential ad-spend? Or do we just like what we like and support the stuff we grew up on... We ain't buying the clothes and the shoes, following the brands and fanning out like that
For any artist like Xzibit, that's 30 years into this shyt and still getting some conversation around them, is pretty notable and it's nice to see him getting some promo and attention off this album even as it is
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