Yahoo Sports: “A closer look at MJ’s 1988 DPOY raises questions about its validity”

[god shamgod]

When you say debunked do you mean that they werent juicing MJs home stats? When a team has 10 turnovers and the bulls have 10 steals then they watch the film and see the team getting 24 second violations and throwing the ball away and losing the ball out of bounds and crediting those as bulls steals thats nothing near debunking. Im not going to argue mj wouldnt still win the dpoy because I didnt watch basketball closely back then i was only 7 i didnt understand what i was watching. Its clear they were cheating though that cant be debunked

Then everyone benefited from “cheating” not just jordan. Alvin Robertson had a similar differential at home the season he won dpoy & no one is questioning his dpoy

Jordan was top in the league in advanced defensive stats in ‘87-88(#1 in the nba in defensive plus minus)which shows his defensive impact not just fudged blocks & steal #’s

 

[HabitualChiller]

This aint Jordan fault. It was an executive decision by Stern and the NBA.

It could be that MJ told the scorekeelers to give him some love. We don't know.

 

[RoCKetSity256]

Then everyone benefited from “cheating” not just jordan. Alvin Robertson had a similar differential at home the season he won dpoy & no one is questioning his dpoy

Jordan was top in the league in advanced defensive stats in ‘87-88(#1 in the nba in defensive plus minus)which shows his defensive impact not just fudged blocks & steal #’s

Definitely Jordan wasnt the only 1 being cheated for we dont know if this was happening for years and we dont know to what extent. And the thing about cheating is when your caught we have to wonder what else was going on that we dont know about. Same way people look at the Patriots. So when people bring up stuff like the video with Lebrons assists (which can be subjective) to deflect against the fact that people were outright cheating for Mj it looks kind of crazy.

 

[NYC Rebel]

It could be that MJ told the scorekeelers to give him some love. We don't know.

If they listened, ain’t his fault.

The NBA was playing catch up to Nike

 

[Everythingg]

Definitely Jordan wasnt the only 1 being cheated for we dont know if this was happening for years and we dont know to what extent. And the thing about cheating is when your caught we have to wonder what else was going on that we dont know about. Same way people look at the Patriots. So when people bring up stuff like the video with Lebrons assists (which can be subjective) to deflect against the fact that people were outright cheating for Mj it looks kind of crazy.

The home & road difference applies to every player in nba history jordan the goat for a reason. Article was a weak attempt to discredit Mike.

Let’s pretend this wasn’t posted already

 

[RoCKetSity256]

Let’s pretend this wasn’t posted already

Lets pretend you dont have a million cameras on the game now compared to back then. So im all for people going through and discrediting anybody on that list. We KNOW what was happening back then vs. assuming or speculating whats happening now because of whos been exposed

 

[god shamgod]

Lets pretend you dont have a million cameras on the game now compared to back then. So im all for people going through and discrediting anybody on that list. We KNOW what was happening back then vs. assuming or speculating whats happening now because of whos been exposed

Nba already said when it came to validating the claims in this bullshyt article

the guy who wrote this article covered lebron in Miami for espn when they had that dikkriding heat coverage. This Shyt got debunked.EVERY player benefited from home score keepers not just Michael jordan. And lookin at the numbers jordan shoulda been back to back dpoy especially over Michael cooper

 

[RoCKetSity256]

Nba already said when it came to validating the claims in this bullshyt article

the guy who wrote this article covered lebron in Miami for espn when they had that dikkriding heat coverage. This Shyt got debunked.EVERY player benefited from home score keepers not just Michael jordan

ofcourse the nba said that why the hell wouldnt they say it. it gives the league a black eye. This got brought up because people thought Jaren jacksons defensive stats were cooked so they went and checked it but guess what turns out they werent. But when they go check old Mjs guess what they found gold (cheating gold ) So you can *juelzGIF* all you want but like i said its a million cameras now compared to barely any in the 80s. Go dig the stats up and expose people who were benefiting from this dont accuse and speculate because MJ was exposed. Nothing got debunked here except the MJ is mythical theory

 

[god shamgod]

ofcourse the nba said that why the hell wouldnt they say it. it gives the league a black eye. This got brought up because people thought Jaren jacksons defensive stats were cooked so they went and checked it but guess what turns out they werent. But when they go check old Mjs guess what they found gold (cheating gold ) So you can *juelzGIF* all you want but like i said its a million cameras now compared to barely any in the 80s. Go dig the stats up and expose people who were benefiting from this dont accuse and speculate because MJ was exposed. Nothing got debunked here except the MJ is mythical theory

Those same million cameras showed lebron 17 assists game wasn’t really 17 assists the tweet I posted earlier showed visual footage those weren’t real assists

Like I said it applies to everyone

 

[RoCKetSity256]

Those same million cameras showed lebron 17 assists game wasn’t really 17 assists

Like I said it applies to everyone

Cap we already have someone in this very thread whos employment involved nba stats tell us that assists are very subjective by the nba's own rules. So you trying to use that vs giving 24 second violations as steals to MJ is nowhere near the same. 1 is cheating 1 isnt. You lose again

 

[RoCKetSity256]

As someone who worked at the NBA a few years ago in a position dealing with live game stats. Those LeBron assists he cited are 100% assists based what I was told what are qualified as an assist. So already that video credibility is shot imo.

@god shamgod im sure Mr. @K-Apps wouldnt mind telling you why youre wrong he seems like a nice guy. He answered alot of peoples questions in this thread.

 

[god shamgod]

@god shamgod im sure Mr. @K-Apps wouldnt mind telling you why youre wrong he seems like a nice guy. He answered alot of peoples questions in this thread.

Sorry , visual evidence says otherwise.

 

[McPiff]

I dont agree with that article at all, but its HILARIOUS to see jordan stans complain about propaganda

 

[NYC Rebel]

I dont agree with that article at all, but its HILARIOUS to see jordan stans complain about propaganda

The NBA furnished him with his own propaganda minister in Ahmad Rashad.

 

[Everythingg]

Lets pretend you dont have a million cameras on the game now compared to back then. So im all for people going through and discrediting anybody on that list. We KNOW what was happening back then vs. assuming or speculating whats happening now because of whos been exposed

Cope babble. The stats show that there were lesser players that got more home cooking than MJ did and you ignore it all to say it was all about boosting Jordan. And some of those boosts are even in the same era

And you also ignore that the writer used 6 games that “coincidentally” can’t be found on the internet and can only be found (remember “coincidentally”)on some Euro cacs tapes (allegedly). In other words it’s Klutch babble. Tear down the past to make Lebron look better. That’s why his name was in the title…