Yall forced this war: THREE 6 MAFIA vs. BONE THUGS N HARMONY

[T.H.E. Goat]

Great post.
But where is 36's across the board classic?
And most hip hop heads don't hold Lord Infamous in high regard. He's not accepted across the board as a top tier lyricist.

As far as bonifide classic I would say World Domination because everything changed after that album. That's the album where people werewhen it came to 3-6. That album turns 20 this year so maybe it'll get the respect it deserves but who knows?

Most would say Mystic Stylez but truthfully that's some revisionist talk because unless you were a huge horrorcore fan or up on Memphis hip hop then chances are you didn't even know about that album until after World Domination

You can say the same for any member of Bone too, but underneath the demonic content Lord Infamous had bars

"Keep a mystic type of visionary rhyme
You may not capture the essence"

 

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

I'm not a fan of either group. Outside of a few singles, I could care less about either group. From that perspective, of someone who isn't a fan of either group, and who also isn't from the South or Midwest, and also was cognizant during the entire run of both groups, Bone's EP and E.1999 are held up like classics. I don't agree personally, but it is what it is.
I don't like the Fugees either but hey
No 36 album is or was held up like that. People point to Mystic Styles now, but in 95 they were 100% regional.
In 97 they made a small splash. In 2000 they made a slightly bigger splash. I remember that one Project Pat song getting video play, but again, small splash. It wasn't until they dropped an album with a title acknowledging all of this in 2005 that they became a big deal.

Nobody was talking about these albums like they were classics. That's not to say they weren't Southern classics
Or completely dominating shyt down there
So from my perspective, its truly to see all this revisionist 36 stanning.

Why wouldn't you consider e 1999 a classic?

 

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

As far as bonifide classic I would say World Domination because everything changed after that album. That's the album where people werewhen it came to 3-6. That album turns 20 this year so maybe it'll get the respect it deserves but who knows?

Most would say Mystic Stylez but truthfully that's some revisionist talk because unless you were a huge horrorcore fan or up on Memphis hip hop then chances are you didn't even know about that album until after World Domination

You can say the same for any member of Bone too, but underneath the demonic content Lord Infamous had bars

"Keep a mystic type of visionary rhyme
You may not capture the essence"

Mystic stylez was the first album I ever listned to by three six mafia. I was in 9th grade when I bought that . It's their best shyt imo followed by smoke clears.

 

[mobbinfms]

Why wouldn't you consider e 1999 a classic?

I do consider it a classic.
It's not my cup of tea though.
But all that tiggedy-tiggedy tongue-twistin shyt don't impress me

I know he wasn't talking about Bone (the song predates Bone being on a national level) but it still fits
Plus the beats didn't grab me like that

 

[mobbinfms]

As far as bonifide classic I would say World Domination because everything changed after that album. That's the album where people werewhen it came to 3-6.

Nah. Not at all. They got a write up in the Source and the album was pushed, I remember it had its own display at a record store at the time, but this album didn't change anything in real time.
Again, this is my perspective out in CA at the time.

Most would say Mystic Stylez but truthfully that's some revisionist talk because unless you were a huge horrorcore fan or up on Memphis hip hop then chances are you didn't even know about that album until after World Domination

Exactly.

You can say the same for any member of Bone too, but underneath the demonic content Lord Infamous had bars

Oh I'm not saying he's wack. Right or wrong, he's not hailed as a top tier rapper

 

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

I do consider it a classic.
It's not my cup of tea though.
But all that tiggedy-tiggedy tongue-twistin shyt don't impress me

I know he wasn't talking about Bone (the song predates Bone being on a national level) but it still fits
Plus the beats didn't grab me like that

The production is dope .

But I respect your opinion.

 

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Paul and Lord were putting this shyt out in '92.. 15 at the time

 

[NegaDuck]

don't blame the machine. 3-6 are nice producers but mediocre artists that were out when the bar was much higher

Nah breh.

The reason they COULDNT have blew like Bone did is because then nikkahs was rapping about popping pills and doing coke and shyt CLEARLY. Wasn't no mumbling or rapping to fast to understand that shyt.

Since that was what they have ALWAYS rapped about, it was no way to package it.

Bone was rapping so fast most folks didn't even know what the hell they were saying.

And let's be super honest here...That Crossroads remix and the machines HUGE investment into that video is what blew Bone up.

I like the original version of Crossroads better...that Eternal Champions sample is just


Also, yeah bone was dope by themselves but wasn't BONE without DJ UNEEKs production....but that's another topic.

 

[H.I.M.]

Im not a fan of either group so my opinion is obviously unbiased unlike yours.

How i'm not unbiased when i'm a fan of both groups, and how are you trying to speak as an authority on the subject when you are NOT and don't even have familiairity with both of the groups catalogs such as i do?

What are you and your goofy ass little neanderthal friends even doing in this thread when you know little to nothing about both groups?

I mean, the search engine is right there to your upper right...my stance on both of the groups greatness is crystal clear, as well as my knowledge of both of their music...meanwhile when i put your name in the search, shyt like this comes up.

can't be, no saying Bone is wack. I expected you to be 24 or maybe 14 speaking like that.

I'm 33 and I always thought they were wack

But i'm supposed to believe you know enough about a group that you think is "wack" to make a comparative detirmination about their catalog

FOH

After 2000 yea they were making better music than Bone. Mid to late 90s 3-6 was a regional group.

Your point? Illmatic was regional when it dropped as well...that don't stop yall from calling it a "goat" hip-hop album.

The fuk does being "regional" have to do with the quality of your music?

And by the late 90's they were NOT regional because they were getting play up here in DC.





..and across the midwest. That's not regional

shyt...some of their underground tapes before Mystic Styles were in mom & pop & stereo stores across the south & midwest...that's 2 regions champ.

Where you were wrong was the lyrical. In no way shape or form was anybody in 3 6 better than Kast, Goodie Mobb or Eightball and MJG on the mic. You know that just as well as anybody

It seems that you have no familiarity AT ALL with Lord Infamous ...who's on par with or BETTER than the best MC's in those groups.













^^^^ If you say this ain't elite MC'ing...you a damn lie...his metaphors & imagery is next level

And unlike anybody in Bone...he mastered both the "slow" flows...and the double/triplet flows...and has a more diverse set of flows and he was doing it 1st

 

[Yoda]

Voted for triple six .

i dont listen to bone thugs besides creeping on ah come up.

 

[DrexlersFade]

Then prove me wrong nikka

Kind of fanbase can't even defend their own? :loldenzel2:

shytted on Rza 36 and whoever else was on the BS

Krayzie>>>36 and its not close

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

^^^^ If you say this ain't elite MC'ing...you a damn lie...his metaphors & imagery is next level

And unlike anybody in Bone...he mastered both the "slow" flows...and the double/triplet flows...and has a more diverse set of flows and he was doing it 1st

Breh, that isn't elite MCing, and prime bizzy, and Krayzie are way better especially Krayzie.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

How i'm not unbiased when i'm a fan of both groups, and how are you trying to speak as an authority on the subject when you are NOT and don't even have familiairity with both of the groups catalogs such as i do?

What are you and your goofy ass little neanderthal friends even doing in this thread when you know little to nothing about both groups?

I mean, the search engine is right there to your upper right...my stance on both of the groups greatness is crystal clear, as well as my knowledge of both of their music...meanwhile when i put your name in the search, shyt like this comes up.





But i'm supposed to believe you know enough about a group that you think is "wack" to make a comparative detirmination about their catalog

FOH





Your point? Illmatic was regional when it dropped as well...that don't stop yall from calling it a "goat" hip-hop album.

The fuk does being "regional" have to do with the quality of your music?

And by the late 90's they were NOT regional because they were getting play up here in DC.





..and across the midwest. That's not regional

shyt...some of their underground tapes before Mystic Styles were in mom & pop & stereo stores across the south & midwest...that's 2 regions champ.



It seems that you have no familiarity AT ALL with Lord Infamous ...who's on par with or BETTER than the best MC's in those groups.













^^^^ If you say this ain't elite MC'ing...you a damn lie...his metaphors & imagery is next level

And unlike anybody in Bone...he mastered both the "slow" flows...and the double/triplet flows...and has a more diverse set of flows and he was doing it 1st

Illmatic wasn't regional when it dropped. It had videos on Rap City and Yo MTV Raps. 3 6 not so much. Not until the late 90s like you said. When DC was playing that shyt they were here too. Only reason I knew who they were was from their Source ads.

Which is why I really question the fact you were on 3 6 in real time like that. You hopped on late like the rest of the country and did your research. Now your a 3 6 expert

BTW those Lord Infamous examples were cool but that nikka is nowhere near elite level MC

He just stood out since the rest of them weren't good

3stacks is elite level. That's why he's mentioned among the goats all the time. You would think that if Lord Infamous was an elite level MC in such a great and influential group he'd get more props

 

[H.I.M.]

Breh, that isn't elite MCing, and prime bizzy, and Krayzie are way better especially Krayzie.

OK...post better examples of lyrical creativity from either of the two...bet you didn't even catch some of the metaphors in those tracks

"countin corpses, in my black fortress, in the hallway painting satanic portraits"

Young scarecrow spittin over these boys head

Illmatic wasn't regional when it dropped. It had videos on Rap City and Yo MTV Raps. 3 6 not so much

Another dumb argument...He was on TV so he wasn't regional

Underground Memphis artists like Tom Skeemask & Project Playaz were on rap city too...so i guess they weren't regional either

Three 6 Mafia - The End moved 200k units 1st year (96-97)on a independent label with NO nationwide video/radio play

Illmatic did 250-300k 1st year numbers ON A MAJOR with national video/radio play...songs on NY Undercover and everything

But in your mind...one was regional, while the other wasn't

BTW those Lord Infamous examples were cool but that nikka is nowhere near elite level MC

Yeah...cus your idea of "elite MC'ing" would be...rappers i monkeyflip em with the funky rhythm i be kickin"

So of course MC'ing of that caliber in gonna be out of your depth.

3stacks is elite level. That's why he's mentioned among the goats all the time. You would think that if Lord Infamous was an elite level MC in such a great and influential group he'd get more props

Yet he's being credited by most "in the know" with pioneering one of the most common & pre-eminent styles of rap today.

 

[mobbinfms]

You would think that if Lord Infamous was an elite level MC in such a great and influential group he'd get more props