Yall thoughts on Warriors WCW debut

[Tide Run This]

I already did. It was a shytty match, and had it been on PPV that you had to pay for, in a much smaller arena, it wouldn't have been the "moment" it was in front of 40,000 people on TV for free. If the same match move for move happened at BATB in front of 10,000 people, it would be remembered as another in a long line of shytty WCW PPV main events you wasted your money on instead of a great moment.

Honestly the match was pretty shytty as far as move for move the atmosphere carried it . I probably would've been it they held off and did that shyt at a PPV in front of a chump crowd. That's why I laugh at people crying about it being free you rather pay 50 bucks to watch Hoegan and Goldberg work a match for 15 minutes in 1998.

 

[Silkk]

I already did. It was a shytty match, and had it been on PPV that you had to pay for, in a much smaller arena, it wouldn't have been the "moment" it was in front of 40,000 people on TV for free. If the same match move for move happened at BATB in front of 10,000 people, it would be remembered as another in a long line of shytty WCW PPV main events you wasted your money on instead of a great moment.

Nah, it just wouldn't have been as big or seen by as many people. They did it right.

 

[stro]

Nah, it just wouldn't have been as big or seen by as many people. They did it right.

It was big because it was on free tv and in a giant stadium. If you had to pay for that match in a much smaller arena, with a far less crazy atmosphere, you'd be pissed you spent your money on that shyt. My point is it wouldn't be a big moment if it had happened on PPV, because people would be pissed they spent their money on something so shytty like Hogan/Piper PPVs.

Being on TV made it a much bigger deal and moment than it would have been on PPV.

 

[raw613]

the initial debut was cool, but everything after that was kinda campy and outdated for that era lol

 

[Silkk]

It was big because it was on free tv and in a giant stadium. If you had to pay for that match in a much smaller arena, with a far less crazy atmosphere, you'd be pissed you spent your money on that shyt. My point is it wouldn't be a big moment if it had happened on PPV, because people would be pissed they spent their money on something so shytty like Hogan/Piper PPVs.

Being on TV made it a much bigger deal and moment than it would have been on PPV.

It was the biggest match in pro wrestling regardless, it was doing huge business no matter what. WCW PPVs in 98 were very strong and that match could have carried a PPV by itself

 

[stro]

But it would have been a shytty PPV main event in a small arena. Which WCW was known for. And as a shytty PPV main event, it isn't the big "moment" that it is to see someone smash Hogan and win the title in a football stadium on TV. How do you not understand what I'm saying? Yes, it would have drawn a big buyrate, but at the expense of making people feel like they wasted their money to see a shytty main event, which is harmful to the buyrate to the next PPV and brand in general.

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

I dont see how u can look at hogan/warrior 2 and say Warrior/Goldberg would've been dope.

It would've been a cool face off, rambling warrior promo, goldberg says he's next...topped off with a shytty match. Goldberg was not gonna carry a no cardio warrior to a decent match. We'd be in this thread talking about how garbage of a match it was

 

[CM_Burns]

I just watched both Hogan/Warrior matches recently, and physically there wasn't much of a difference between them. I'm not sure the 1990 one was better as far as workrate, it just a really stupid ending. Goldberg vs Warrior might've worked.

 

[CBoz]

His run ruined Davey Boy's career.

 

[stro]

His run ruined Davey Boy's career.

I dunno....compare Bulldog in 1997 to Bulldog in 1998 before he got hurt. Dude looked like he was going to be found dead and bloated months before he actually got hurt on the trap door.

Those were less than a year apart, and months before Bulldog got hurt on the trap door. Dude was lucky to make it out of WCW alive, tbh. Unfair to blame it all on Warrior considering what Bulldog was doing to his own body before Warrior even showed up.

 

[Daracell]

WCW always had their logo printed in the middle of their canvas haha

 

[Silkk]

I dont see how u can look at hogan/warrior 2 and say Warrior/Goldberg would've been dope.

It would've been a cool face off, rambling warrior promo, goldberg says he's next...topped off with a shytty match. Goldberg was not gonna carry a no cardio warrior to a decent match. We'd be in this thread talking about how garbage of a match it was

Goldberg/Hogan was a shytty match with way too much interference.

Didn't matter because it was booked, hyped, & promoted correctly.

 

[Silkk]

But it would have been a shytty PPV main event in a small arena. Which WCW was known for. And as a shytty PPV main event, it isn't the big "moment" that it is to see someone smash Hogan and win the title in a football stadium on TV. How do you not understand what I'm saying? Yes, it would have drawn a big buyrate, but at the expense of making people feel like they wasted their money to see a shytty main event, which is harmful to the buyrate to the next PPV and brand in general.

No it would not have. Where are you getting this stuff from?

WCW was consistently running and selling out everything in 1998 from the Georgia Dome, to all arenas, to the Alamo dome, etc.

I specifically said the match happening on free TV in the Georgia Dome was the right call and made it a bigger moment.

But the match would have done huge business ANYWHERE. It was just as big if not bigger than Sting vs Hogan.

 

[stro]

It wasn't hyped or promoted at all, dude. It got announced on the Thunder before. There was no build. It was originally locally promoted as a dark match. If you didn't watch Thunder or Saturday night, you didn't know the match was going to happen until you tuned in to Nitro. It didn't even pop a notably bigger rating (Nitro had higher ratings before and after this show in 1998). It was right in the average for what Nitro was getting at the time, and Nitro did beat Raw that week, but lost every week for the month after.

Had it actually been hyped and promoted properly, it would have been able to get a giant rating, which is why people still complain about how stupid it was to this day. It wasn't even that they gave it away on free TV: it was that they didn't even give it a week to advertise to maximize the viewing audience.

No it would not have. Where are you getting this stuff from?

WCW was consistently running and selling out everything in 1998 from the Georgia Dome, to all arenas, to the Alamo dome, etc.

I specifically said the match happening on free TV in the Georgia Dome was the right call and made it a bigger moment.

But the match would have done huge business ANYWHERE. It was just as big if not bigger than Sting vs Hogan.

WCW didn't run those giant places for PPV. The PPV after the show Goldberg won the title was BATB. It was held at Cox Arena in San Diego in front of 10,000 people. And my point was that match and moment would not have meant what it did to people in front of 10,000 on PPV instead of 40,000 on free TV as a HOLY shyt THIS IS HAPPENING moment.

 

[Silkk]

It wasn't hyped or promoted at all, dude. It got announced on the Thunder before. There was no build. It was originally locally promoted as a dark match. If you didn't watch Thunder or Saturday night, you didn't know the match was going to happen until you tuned in to Nitro. It didn't even pop a notably bigger rating (Nitro had higher ratings before and after this show in 1998). It was right in the average for what Nitro was getting at the time, and Nitro did beat Raw that week, but lost every week for the month after.

Had it actually been hyped and promoted properly, it would have been able to get a giant rating, which is why people still complain about how stupid it was to this day. It wasn't even that they gave it away on free TV: it was that they didn't even give it a week to advertise to maximize the viewing audience.




WCW didn't run those giant places for PPV. The PPV after the show Goldberg won the title was BATB. It was held at Cox Arena in San Diego in front of 10,000 people. And my point was that match and moment would not have meant what it did to people in front of 10,000 on PPV instead of 40,000 on free TV as a HOLY shyt THIS IS HAPPENING moment.

It was announced on Thunder and then hyped ALL NIGHT LONG on Nitro. And people(in the company) complain about it in hindsight because it was on free TV and they missed out on a no doubt huge PPV buyrate.


And to the bolded, i been saying that from the start it still would have been huge anywhere, just not as big as it was