Years later I still feel a type of way towards Big Pun doing a song called 'nikka shyt'

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New yorkers know the difference and anyone acting aloof is playing a role.

I find irony in @smokeurobinson being latino. Seems to be more of an internal conflict hes dealing with.

WRONG

Just cuz the mentally dead give it a pass does not mean I have to.


I see it, Star saw it and the guy who made the same exact observation in post#36 saw it.

Thats 3 to your 1
 

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I notice he didn't say 'That Spic Shyt' and of course he wouldn't because that term is offensive and not to be used as endearment even tho some Hispanics do use it jokingly its very rare when they do so.

Because those words aren't used in the same way on average. There is no other context or situation to say the word "spic" that isn't specifically addressing someones race/ethnicity.



WTF does a "white terminator nikka" have to do with black people? Nothing. What do non-blacks using the calling themselves nikka among themselves? Nothing.

That doesn't mean you're obligated to abide by it's usage by non-blacks, give "passes" or put up with people calling you out of your name but you can't make a 1:1 comparison of the two terms. Even when black folks talk about other races they become "nikkas" because they aren't necessarily using it interchangeably with "black person". It's become apart of Hip Hop's lexicon for better or worse and I feel like if you're gonna be offended by it regardless of context or tone, you might as well shoot for all things derivative of "negro" altogether. The only thing that has ever changed is the cultural context/intent...kinda like "colored" could a cac stole on while "person of color" gets them a pat on the back.

:heh:

Just my perspective though.
 

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Found it funny no one has ever been bothered by Noriega using it
 

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Because those words aren't used in the same way on average. There is no other context or situation to say the word "spic" that isn't specifically addressing someones race/ethnicity.



WTF does a "white terminator nikka" have to do with black people? Nothing. What do non-blacks using the calling themselves nikka among themselves? Nothing.

That doesn't mean you're obligated to abide by it's usage by non-blacks, give "passes" or put up with people calling you out of your name but you can't make a 1:1 comparison of the two terms. Even when black folks talk about other races they become "nikkas" because they aren't necessarily using it interchangeably with "black person". It's become apart of Hip Hop's lexicon for better or worse and I feel like if you're gonna be offended by it regardless of context or tone, you might as well shoot for all things derivative of "negro" altogether. The only thing that has ever changed is the cultural context/intent...kinda like "colored" could a cac stole on while "person of color" gets them a pat on the back.

:heh:

Just my perspective though.



U missed the point.

I used jlo and pun as examples of famous Puerto Ricans who were on a large platform who used the n word sparingly and how thats not a good look..


U talking about something totally different.
 

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.... And this is coming from a man who's mom is Honduran.


When I first heard this song it didn't sit well with me because 1. He's really describing 'Ghetto Shyt' which, had he used that term, it would have been universal. But specifying 'nikka' puts it in a specific category to where u automatically think 'Black people.' . And 2. I notice he didn't say 'That Spic Shyt' and of course he wouldn't because that term is offensive and not to be used as endearment even tho some Hispanics do use it jokingly its very rare when they do so.







THAT nikka shyt - smokin weed with my moms
THAT nikka shyt - slingin D and her-on
THAT nikka shyt - no love for the cops
THAT nikka shyt - gettin my dikk sucked for my pops
THAT nikka shyt - gettin drunk with my Twinz
THAT nikka shyt - swearin to God I'll never drink again
THAT nikka shyt - gettin drunk again
THAT nikka shyt - three days in the pen
THAT nikka shyt - talkin loud at the flicks
THAT nikka shyt - fried rice and rib tips
THAT nikka shyt - lookin fresh with no ends
THAT nikka shyt - beatin on my sister's boyfriends
THAT nikka shyt - yellow tape and white sheets
THAT nikka shyt - whoopin my kid's ass in the streets
THAT nikka shyt - Iverson crossover
THAT nikka shyt - cheese doodles, grape soda
THAT nikka shyt - playin the last card on the train
THAT nikka shyt - hot sauce on everythang
THAT nikka shyt - nugget gold in the 80's
THAT nikka shyt - iced out in the 90's
THAT nikka shyt - shoot the place if you play me
THAT nikka shyt - Pun to run til they find me
and I'm out what, what what wha-what
and I'm out what, what what wha-what
and I'm out, and I'm out




Years later Star pointed out the same thing only it was towards J.LO. His words gave a pretty good breakdown on how I felt towards Puns' song 'Nikka Shyt'





Listening to the song "I'm Real," featuring Ja Rule, I heard Jennifer Lopez say "I tell them nikkaz mind they biz'' but they don't hear me though." When I pointed it out to the listening audience, the response was mixed, but most were in favor of stamping her ghetto passport. Most people of color will always take that foot up the ass from some non-colored person and choose to sweep it under the rug. This may have been a survival tactic from back in the days of slavery-but this was the twentieth century. For a couple of months as I did my radio show, I felt the need to keep the issue on the table. With a large platform comes a small shred of responsibility, and I found this point to be worthy of my rants. Mentally dead negroes excused Jennifer Lopez and her pathetic outcry about being from the block. But the five percent of us who are conscious know that her actions had damaging repercussions on young children of color. Lopez, who appeals primarily to young Latino and white kids, gave her audience a green light to use and manipulate that racial slur at will. Boldly caucasian hustlers of the ghetto , the Quentin Tarantinos of the world, will claim that growing up around blacks in the 'hood gives them license to use the word. Sorry folks, but being colored is not a state of mind. It's not abouth whether Lopez had the right to profit and grow as an artist, but prior to this stunt she was a proud, positive promoter of Puerto-Rican pride. if Whitney Housten had recorded a track called "Hangin' with My Spic Friends" what would Lopezs' reaction be? Besides when people wave their ethnic pride in your face so bodly they shoud be made to stand accountable for the slightest infringement upon others ethnic pride. - Star

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this spin is pun is liking being in that environment and kick it with those type of people

actually it seems pun is racist if he didnt live that life or he was mocking black people
 
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