You can’t be political without economics Black people need to find a industry to Control
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Capitalism is not the enemy. We can thrive in a capitalist system. We just need to own the businesses we spend money at.
We need black clothing stores, grocery stores, hardware stores, technology stores, restaurants, delis, etc. Any place we spend money we have to own it, and we also have to hire our own.
The blueprint is there. Asians, Jews, Arabs, Latinos, of course white people etc are all following the same playbook. Only black folks are off code. Ya'll need to check out Dr. Anderson
We need black clothing stores, grocery stores, hardware stores, technology stores, restaurants, delis, etc. Any place we spend money we have to own it, and we also have to hire our own.
The blueprint is there. Asians, Jews, Arabs, Latinos, of course white people etc are all following the same playbook. Only black folks are off code. Ya'll need to check out Dr. Anderson
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Only black people are off code?Capitalism is not the enemy. We can thrive in a capitalist system. We just need to own the businesses we spend money at.
We need black clothing stores, grocery stores, hardware stores, technology stores, restaurants, delis, etc. Any place we spend money we have to own it, and we also have to hire our own.
The blueprint is there. Asians, Jews, Arabs, Latinos, of course white people etc are all following the same playbook. Only black folks are off code. Ya'll need to check out Dr. Anderson
How are black people going to own these businesses, can there be enough black businesses that can hire black people while being only supported by black people
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Capitalism leads to worker exploitation. That's just the nature of the beast. Profits above all else
That isn't true at all.
Neither socialism nor communism require the erasure of race and ethnicity. The purpose of the revolution is to end the racial and ethnic hierarchies backed and embedded within the capitalist mode of production.
Y'all get on here and say *anything* without a lick of familiarity.
Precisely it. The idea that more Black control in industry resolves any of the brutal underlying issues we face is absolute nonsense, we're still under racial capitalism - unless cooperative ownership of the means of production, by those that work and toil - is the end goal, we're going to be stuck in the same spot.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
Cite examples
And when you fail, lemme break down where your lack of familiarity trope fails magnificently
Make sure to steer clear of Africa and Asia just in case that's where your big brain is guiding you
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Name another group of people not collaborating and getting money in Amerikkka.
And yes we can create our own black economic community and have enough for everybody to thrive. Lol yo, please just watch the Anderson video or read the book, he's already laid out the entire economic blueprint for black america with data to back it up. We're the only ones not playing the game.
Not only are we not playing the game, we don't even know the rules.
Cite examples of the ideology?Cite examples
And when you fail, lemme break down where your lack of familiarity trope fails magnificently
Make sure to steer clear of Africa and Asia just in case that's where your big brain is guiding you
Or of real-world attempts at socialism?
Neither has, at any point in time, meant the erasure of race and ethnicity.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
Wrong.
China.
YOU don't know what YOU'RE talking about
Which is a huge problem with Socialism/Communism types
You like to tip toe around all the places where it's failed spectacularly or places where you don't want to speak about
So go do some knowledge searching and start with the Cultural Revolution in China during Mao up until present day, and come back when you're a little more versed in something you're telling other people they're not familiar with.
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Veteran
China's problem is that it is an authoritarian country
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
There will NEVER be a way to force human beings to give up their religions, ethnic identity, or cultural identities or racial identity without some powerful hand to force them to do so and as history has shown it is usually an authoritarian one
And a great example of that, is China
And it's literally going on...right...now...
STILL actually... it's been going strong since the 50s
So that's how I know America will always dip the tip in but never go fully raw in Socialism or Communism and it's because of it's addiction to the very things I've listed, and that addiction will never be satiated.
This is true. Such allows for organization. I saw this with Indians in medicine. You'd have attendings recruit other indians to their program by encouraging them to apply for residency. You'd then have a situation where Indians were over-represented among the applicant pool and ultimatly would be over-represented among the people brought in. Going further back, they would have study groups headed by those who were further along to help shape the study habits of students. Going going even further back, while many of them utilize MCAT test prep services, they also generally have extra test prep among themselves and have their own message boards and forums aimed at the same thing. Going even further back, it is not uncommon to have them have essentially an informal educational network through group tutoring for their local communities that puts them on game (such as which college programs operate under a 6 year medical program, allowing some to skip over the 4 + 4 set-up of college and med school, how to take classes to decrease their time in undergrad to 3 or 2 years (weekend classes are ones' friend), how to game the GPA system (medical schools often look at your science GPA differently than your whole GPA), how to utilize community college credit to pad one's GPA (some will take a non-science major so they can take science classes in albeit easier community college programs while taking harder, non-science classes in their regular college all the while maxing the fukk out of transfer credits), and finally, some states have pipelines into certain careers like medicine with Texas having the JAMP program. If one person knows a lot of this, with some work and support, they can become a doctor almost assuredly. If a lot of people do this, supporting each other, you can get a lot of those people becoming doctors and furthering the whole thing. I'm not knocking Indians at all for this, since a decent number of people do this, but more often than not, the non-indians who do most of these things are well to do and wealthy or they were put on game by indian people and even some black immigrant communities as well. I was of the latter. Some asians I think do some of this as well. In any case, the point is is that if blacks did this, they could make some considerable noise. Some would have to resign themselves to less glamorous specialties such as family medicine and internal medicine due to the high number of spots those usually have but its better than nothing and honestly, many of those positions are actually pretty good. Having a presence in teaching hospitals would also be extremely helpful. The fact that the length of residency is not that long comparatively also helps as well. Moreover, especially since many administrative positions are held by black people. The only problem is that the whole concept of a hispanic-serving institution has created a pipeline for latinos and they are more than happy to "gentrify" (is there an hispanic version of gentrification?) these positions. In the end, there has to be a fair amount of community organization, which is where all of this starts. There are other communities that do this as well, but the main thing is one cannot operate under the idea that you need the white man's approval to achieve something. The system is tilted in their favor but that doesn't mean it can't be beaten. It just takes a hell of a lot of work. It shouldn't, and it's unfair, but until it becomes fair, one has to do something.