You can’t be political without economics Black people need to find a industry to Control

High Art

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Why do you keep ignoring the other points I’ve made, stop trying to spin the conversation no one has said black businesses is a bad thing no one asked for approval from anybody
Your not living in reality, you actually being really phony for even using those people as examples
And you can’t seem to comprehend that people need training to even run businesses, how are you even talking about gate keeping when people are not even in the position to work these jobs, if you can’t work the job how you going to own the business, like I said the last thing folks need to be worried about is gate keeping
And ima ask again what black businesses are people supposed to have, what is the criteria for identifying c00ns
What businesses do you own exactly, businesses that you have outside of the us, these businesses were you gate keep
I'm not spinning anything. I control this conversation, no you :ufdup: . Either answer the questions or fukk off. Should I help David Duke or Candace Owens if they want to work with me? By your logic, black people should hire racists and people who make such known on social media, let alone elsewhere. Even more, should I buy from people who are obviously racist? Black people would be a lot better off if they did not give their money to groups who hate them. Unavoidable in some cases but with so much information at one's access, it is easier to spread the word and make clear who owns what and what time they are on and how to seek alternatives. Why this seems like an alien and offensive idea to you I don't know.

Furthermore, the idea of black people helping other black people to better positions is a reality that other people on this board have attested to thus showing it is possible to extent. What I'm advocating is more of this beyond the few examples but with an emphasis on ownership, beyond mere servitude which you seem to be advocating for. I never said black people shouldn't be trained time in and time out, yet you keep skipping over this. You keep wasting my time with this. And I've spoken about my businesses before on this board. Look for those posts. If you're going to waste my time, I have no problem wasting yours. Have fun.:mjlol:
These minority groups seem successful cause they was allowed to be not because they helped each other, they took advantage of the support they got, black people cant afford to exclude anybody out
Look at this shyt. :scusthov:
 

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I'm not spinning anything. I control this conversation, no you :ufdup: . Either answer the questions or fukk off. Should I help David Duke or Candace Owens if they want to work with me? By your logic, black people should hire racists and people who make such known on social media, let alone elsewhere. Even more, should I buy from people who are obviously racist? Black people would be a lot better off if they did not give their money to groups who hate them. Unavoidable in some cases but with so much information at one's access, it is easier to spread the word and make clear who owns what and what time they are on and how to seek alternatives. Why this seems like an alien and offensive idea to you I don't know.

Furthermore, the idea of black people helping other black people to better positions is a reality that other people on this board have attested to thus showing it is possible to extent. What I'm advocating is more of this beyond the few examples but with an emphasis on ownership, beyond mere servitude which you seem to be advocating for. I never said black people shouldn't be trained time in and time out, yet you keep skipping over this. You keep wasting my time with this. And I've spoken about my businesses before on this board. Look for those posts. If you're going to waste my time, I have no problem wasting yours. Have fun.:mjlol:

Look at this shyt. :scusthov:
You can’t dispute that post U quoted, so instead of quoting give your opinion
You never answered none of my questions I asked you first and I already answered that bullshyt ass question you asked
I don’t know if you trolling or not but if you really bout that life you would be up front about yo shyt and u still avoiding the points I made but want me to answer questions
I don’t believe shyt u got to say and I’m not about to search your post history, u either got a business or you don’t
 

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You can’t dispute that post U quoted, so instead of quoting give your opinion
You never answered none of my questions I asked you first and I already answered that bullshyt ass question you asked
I don’t know if you trolling or not but if you really bout that life you would be up front about yo shyt and u still avoiding the points I made but want me to answer questions
I don’t believe shyt u got to say and I’m not about to search your post history, u either got a business or you don’t
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I don't care if you believe me. You're just a random person on the internet. Hell, I'm beginning to doubt you're even black. A lot of what I post is for the other people reading, not for you. I'm always cognizant that this site is being read by other people. I keep posting that because it shows your mindset and even more, makes one wonder why you're even in this thread when you think that the only way for black people as a whole to be successful is if white people allow them to, and even more, they are unable to ensure their spaces are pro-black without a white man's approval. Did he give you permission to post? Did he give Brook permission to make this site? The idea is absurd at the micro-level since it indicates that white people are this unfathomable god-like entity that controls everything. By that logic, any suggestions from anyone here is pointless and stupid. You're telling me that white people wanted asians to make more than them? Asians, with the exception of the Nepalese and Burmese surpass whites in regards to median household income. On a larger scale it is flawed. Yes, some laws are slanted to help white people, but in the end, the system is not perfect and only works because black people are not united. It's not a pipe dream for them to be but the idea that everything that occurs is allowed throws into the trash all forms of black achievement and indicates that such only occurred at the white man's behest. That's a dangerous way of thinking.

In any case, my points stands. Black ownership is possible and group economics is part of that. It's not a vague idea since we've seen some of that in many posters on this board and seen other posters on this board alone putting other people on. Gatekeeping works and there are levels to it. If you have a business in a black neighborhood, use the demographics of that given area or the nature of one's business as an excuse to hire black. Stop buying shyt from people who are known racists. Buy black when one can. Stop inviting everyone to the metaphorical cookout. Stop giving people who act anti-black a pass for their behavior. Don't put on people who are anti-black. As with the HCC example. A lot of those hispanic people hired did not have to be hired. There were qualified black people available and yet an effort to bring more hispanic people on board was done. This was done before HSI was a thing and yet such was done at the black staff and eventually community's expense. It was after this that the area became more hispanic so these things have consequences. And I'm not even hating on hispanics but if black people are under the impressions that they are the most discriminated and certain groups have issues with discrimination, one should do their due diligence in regard to hiring and so on.
That said, this convo is pretty much over. Be as mad as you like, it seems to be the only thing you're good at. :manny:
 

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I don't care if you believe me. You're just a random person on the internet. Hell, I'm beginning to doubt you're even black. A lot of what I post is for the other people reading, not for you. I'm always cognizant that this site is being read by other people. I keep posting that because it shows your mindset and even more, makes one wonder why you're even in this thread when you think that the only way for black people as a whole to be successful is if white people allow them to, and even more, they are unable to ensure their spaces are pro-black without a white man's approval. Did he give you permission to post? Did he give Brook permission to make this site? The idea is absurd at the micro-level since it indicates that white people are this unfathomable god-like entity that controls everything. By that logic, any suggestions from anyone here is pointless and stupid. You're telling me that white people wanted asians to make more than them? Asians, with the exception of the Nepalese and Burmese surpass whites in regards to median household income. On a larger scale it is flawed. Yes, some laws are slanted to help white people, but in the end, the system is not perfect and only works because black people are not united. It's not a pipe dream for them to be but the idea that everything that occurs is allowed throws into the trash all forms of black achievement and indicates that such only occurred at the white man's behest. That's a dangerous way of thinking.

In any case, my points stands. Black ownership is possible and group economics is part of that. It's not a vague idea since we've seen some of that in many posters on this board and seen other posters on this board alone putting other people on. Gatekeeping works and there are levels to it. If you have a business in a black neighborhood, use the demographics of that given area or the nature of one's business as an excuse to hire black. Stop buying shyt from people who are known racists. Buy black when one can. Stop inviting everyone to the metaphorical cookout. Stop giving people who act anti-black a pass for their behavior. Don't put on people who are anti-black. As with the HCC example. A lot of those hispanic people hired did not have to be hired. There were qualified black people available and yet an effort to bring more hispanic people on board was done. This was done before HSI was a thing and yet such was done at the black staff and eventually community's expense. It was after this that the area became more hispanic so these things have consequences. And I'm not even hating on hispanics but if black people are under the impressions that they are the most discriminated and certain groups have issues with discrimination, one should do their due diligence in regard to hiring and so on.
That said, this convo is pretty much over. Be as mad as you like, it seems to be the only thing you're good at. :manny:
Well I hope people who read your posts see how goofy you look, dodging around questions, trying to flip narratives
You ain’t bout shyt u just another dude role playin on the internet, u ain’t said no real shyt throughout this whole thread just mental masturbating about shyt you don’t even know about, be you but just know nobody believe they bullshyt you pushing
 

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Well I hope people who read your posts see how goofy you look, dodging around questions, trying to flip narratives
You ain’t bout shyt u just another dude role playin on the internet, u ain’t said no real shyt throughout this whole thread just mental masturbating about shyt you don’t even know about, be you but just know nobody believe they bullshyt you pushing
Look at you, look at your post. You've totally come undone and sound unhinged as fukk. You're the one operating under the idea and pushing the idea that blacks can't do anything and need permission from the white man to do so. You're the one pushing the idea that we need racists and anti-black c00ns to exist or succeed, even when there are clear signs to avoid these people. The fact that any discussion that is not some woe is me shyt is classed as mental masturbation by you says more about you than anything else. There are many threads where I and many others have explained in actual detail how a black person can come up in the current system, from getting into medical school to finding better jobs and so on. We have whole sections on this board filled with black people helping one another so the very notion of it is not obscene or absurd in itself. Many people have learned from this place let alone other black spaces. I have as well. I'm not going to spoon-feed you because even if you are black, the time your own indicates to me that you would be a serious detriment to the black community. Look for it if you can but I'm sure you won't. You didn't come here for that and instead came here to bytch and moan and bully people into feeling the same way you do. shyt is sad.
 

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So you just insist on typing bullshyt ass posts
Sounds like you're waiting for me to spoonfeed you the same way you're waiting for the white man to give you permission. The latter indicates you're good at waiting so wait a little longer.
 

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We have way too many vocal black folks that want to bypass the political part. They will come up with every excuse to not vote and not be politically involved.

No we have too many black people more worried about the democrat parties goal than anything for the black community
 

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No we have too many black people more worried about the democrat parties goal than anything for the black community
Can't progress the black community if we aren't politically involved. And I'm not referring to just blindly voting for anyone with a (D) next to their name. Starting grassroot campaigns, or getting behind grassroot politicians that align with your goals. Being more active in local government. Hounding politicians when they fukk up and letting them know that they can be replaced
 

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Can't progress the black community if we aren't politically involved. And I'm not referring to just blindly voting for anyone with a (D) next to their name. Starting grassroot campaigns, or getting behind grassroot politicians that align with your goals. Being more active in local government. Hounding politicians when they fukk up and letting them know that they can be replaced


I think a huge issue is we tend to fight for other interests more than our own. Even within the community.
 

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Claud Anderson would be proud :obama:

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Ownership needs to be stressed as well as the ability to gatekeep. The latter is the issue at hand here. There needs to be a means and a willingness to implement a ceiling on those unlike you as well. The process needs to be controlled as well as a means to put forth incentives to those outside of one's group to get them with your program.
Everyone gotta be on the same page here

Ownership involves capitalism. Period.

IMO, Socialism and Communism is NOT an option because under that path, Blackness is not a thing, since race and ethnicity get wiped away in favor of a homogenous racial paradigm
 
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