“You can’t out work a bad diet “ is not entirely true

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If you don't have the willpower to eat even moderately healthy, then I doubt you have the willpower to be in the gym consistently enough to counter the bad diet. Eventually you're gonna get burned out on the gym, need a month break, or have an injury... Then what?
 
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Just need to burn more than you put in, but yeah, I get annoyed when people suggest it's 99% diet. Maybe for some it is but, and this before I got my rower, when I was burning entire days off of the week with cycling, it was definitely cardio carrying me when I wanted to lose weight. I understand most people aren't going to want to put themselves through that but cardio becomes more efficient the more efficient you become at it, so the more fit you become over time with cardio, the more calories you are burning within the same timeframe.

edit: And to be fair, I come from a wrestling background, I know few wrestlers that don't have an eating disorder. I'm used to going long without eating and then binging. But when I do eat, it is relatively unhealthy.
 

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What is a good diet tho. A lot of athletes don’t have good diets
But the best athletes do. In my opinion a good diet consists of lots of lean protien sources, good carbs(rice, potato), lots of veggies, good sources of fats, minimal/no alcohol, and no fast food.
 

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But the best athletes do. In my opinion a good diet consists of lots of lean protien sources, good carbs(rice, potato), lots of veggies, good sources of fats, minimal/no alcohol, and no fast food.
Why are those considered good carbs ?
 
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If you don't have the willpower to eat even moderately healthy, then I doubt you have the willpower to be in the gym consistently enough to counter the bad diet. Eventually you're gonna get burned out on the gym, need a month break, or have an injury... Then what?
Nah, I would say it's much easier to build a food addiction, than it is harder to build consistency with the gym. You need to gamify the approach, you have Zwift with cycling, online competition with a water rower, etc. When you build consistency with the gym, it's a get up and go thing, you don't even think about it. But a food addiction or reliance is no joke. So throughout a year of scheduled workouts, I could see myself missing a few days, and that's usually due to injury, but when it comes to being addicted to certain foods, good luck with that shyt.
 

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Lots of people eat like crap and arent fat. I have a coworker who eats like a pig probably 2x the amount as me at lunch. Dude just laughsa and says I better go run tonight all good.

Lots of people dont work out at all but get plenty of passive exercise from say walking to work.

Calorie counting is a guide not a rule. Its not 1-to-1 in-out.
 

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I mostly agree. Folks try to make it seem like if you eat fast food once then your life over and you’ll become 300 pounds off that one meal alone
 

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Weight loss is not difficult. I guarantee if most Americans cut their sodium and sugar intakes and portion sizes to a third of what it is the pounds will melt off. Add walking, sleep and stretching and watch the pounds slip.

Its difficult if all you're trying to do is lose weight. If healthy eating is a lifestyle people wanted to pursue, the weight will have no choice but to fall off.
 

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Nah, I would say it's much easier to build a food addiction, than it is harder to build consistency with the gym. You need to gamify the approach, you have Zwift with cylincing, online competition with a water rower, etc. When you build consistency with the gym, it's a get up and go thing, you don't even think about it. But a food addiction or reliance is no joke. So throughout a year of scheduled workouts, I could see myself missing a few days, and that's usually due to injury, but when it comes to being addicted to certain foods, good luck with that shyt.
I agree but also disagree with some points.. I've been working out for 15+ years doing every lift you can think of, running, bike, bball, football, random cardio machines.. and sometimes my body just eventually needed a break. Going 4-6x a week over the years drains on you.

You'd be shocked at how much your body can change after a month of no working out when you used to be heavy into it. And like you said that's where the food issue can take effect.
 
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I agree but also disagree with some points.. I've been working out for 15+ years doing every lift you can think of, running, bike, bball, football, random cardio machines.. and sometimes my body just eventually needed a break. Going 4-6x a week over the years drains on you.

You'd be shocked at how much your body can change after a month of no working out when you used to be heavy into it. And like you said that's where the food issue can take effect.
I see your point, I think, and although I don't like the guy, the Greg Doucette approach of eating what you enjoy and committing to year-round cardio, even the lightest cardio, such as a walk, would greatly benefit people that are constantly throwing their "diets" out the window and going through a vicious cycle with that.

I just see food addiction as being part chemical, as in a chemical addiction being formed with the reward component of treating yourself to certain foods, part biological, as in us tracing it down to a genetic component of hunger being experienced at a higher rate for people, and part environmental, as in there are people growing up in cultures with overall bad food that will be incredibly difficult to walk completely away from. So with that, I see the ability to build the habit of implementing cardio daily, even if it's as simple as a quick light walk, as being more likely to take place within a year than a break from food addiction.






But I do agree with your overall point, it's should be the final goal of every person, which is eventually approaching food with the intention of being healthy and breaking any sort of reliance or addiction to bad foods.

edit: And because, as you put it, the moment that gym break hits, the diet can take over, I see your point with that too and agree.
 
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