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Got damn, watching the bret/hbk dvd back, bret comes off as a bitter, scorned bytch.

Heavenbottom is like :manny: yeah what i did was shytty. But it had to be done. My bad. :manny:





Bret just like :sadbron::to::pacspit::beli:



fukking mark man :mjlol:
So HBK who forfeited titles all the time, is all business, while Bret who jobbed in his prime to an ancient Bob Backlund, is a mark? Right...
 

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Bruh it's a shame how they dropped the ball with Bret. All they had to do was start booking plans for Canada as soon as they signed him and run a tour there for like a month. First show he comes on and just shyts all over WWF and Vince. Whole fukking promotion should have been booked around that shyt but they just completely dropped the ball.

That was the difference between Vince and everyone else, he saw the vision of what tobdo next and he ran with it. Wrestling was already at a point where they wanted "tweeners" and the heels to he cheered. Bret could have put them out of business once he went to WCW but they honestly didn't know what they had or how to capitalize on it. He should have been doing exactly what Stone Cold was doing in ECW when he got shytted on in WCW...blue print was laid perfectly for them and they fukked it up.


Didn't help they had him come and feud with WCW Flair and Sting he ain't getting over with the crowd vs those two. You got a guy that didn't lose the WWF title legit come in legit and make him some half ass Hoegan stooge. They should've had Bret swerve Hulk and gave us a legit Hoegan vs Hart match that we never got in WWF instead they wasted it on a throwaway nitro just to build to another Hart switch he turned heel/face so much early on it made no damn sense.
 

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Didn't help they had him come and feud with WCW Flair and Sting he ain't getting over with the crowd vs those two. You got a guy that didn't lose the WWF title legit come in legit and make him some half ass Hoegan stooge. They should've had Bret swerve Hulk and gave us a legit Hoegan vs Hart match that we never got in WWF instead they wasted it on a throwaway nitro just to build to another Hart switch he turned heel/face so much early on it made no damn sense.
Hoegan squashed all that, which is why Bret still doesn't like his oompa loompa tanned ass
 

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Hogan always resented Bret. So even if they had grand plans, Hulk would've vetoed them anyway. In Bret book he mentions how he had to lobby hard for the steel plate angle and they were gonna have Hulk leave him(Bret) laid out after the spear tackle incident.
 

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Didn't help they had him come and feud with WCW Flair and Sting he ain't getting over with the crowd vs those two. You got a guy that didn't lose the WWF title legit come in legit and make him some half ass Hoegan stooge. They should've had Bret swerve Hulk and gave us a legit Hoegan vs Hart match that we never got in WWF instead they wasted it on a throwaway nitro just to build to another Hart switch he turned heel/face so much early on it made no damn sense.
Hoegan squashed all that, which is why Bret still doesn't like his oompa loompa tanned ass
Hogan always resented Bret. So even if they had grand plans, Hulk would've vetoed them anyway. In Bret book he mentions how he had to lobby hard for the steel plate angle and they were gonna have Hulk leave him(Bret) laid out after the spear tackle incident.

This is exactly why I said they shouldn't have even introduced Bret in WCW until they were in Canada. You do it that way and you can continue the shyt that was going on in WWF, allow Bret to shyt on WWF and Hogan at the same time.

He could have been like "fukk WWF, Vince and you too Hogan for helping build that piece of shyt company". Have him run down Hogan in Canada the entire time he is there and while on tour he wins that belt and leaves Canada as champion.

To appease Hogan you tell him "you're going to get the belt back as soon as we get back to the states and you're going to terrorize Bret along with your goons until we go back in a couple months". That way Hogan, NWO and Bret all stay strong.

Bret is the focal point of WCW because he has come in and immediately feuded with Hogan and NWO so the roster gets behind him in Canada and when he returns back to the US because NWO beats the fukk out of him causing him to lose the title. Announcers put the shyt over as Bret coming in and being the force that finally got WCW back on track in the "war with NWO", Hogan doesn't bytch because he's right there in the mix and continues to hold the strap and WCW keeps bringing money in from the US and now the tours they have to run every couple of months in Canada because of Bret.

shyt you even take Jericho, Benoit and Malenko and have Bret form a new Foundation. Call them the Dungeon Family or some shyt. WCW fukked that shyt all up and Hogan played a part but they could have made it happen
 
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This is exactly why I said they shouldn't have even introduced Bret in WCW until they were in Canada. You do it that way and you can continue the shyt that was going on in WWF, allow Bret to shyt on WWF and Hogan at the same time.

He could have been like y"fukk WWF, Vince and you too Hogan for he'll ng build that piece of shyt company". Have him run down Hogan in Canada the entire time he is there and while on tour he wins that belt and leaves Canada as champion.

To appease Hogan you tell him "you're going to get the belt back as soon as we get back to the states and you're going to terrorize Bret along with your goons until we go back in a couple months". That way Hogan, NWO and Bret all stay strong.

Bret is the focal point of WCW because he has come in and immediately feuded with Hogan and NWO so the roster gets behind him in Canada and when he returns back to the US because NWO beats the fukk out of him causing him to lose the title. Announcers put the shyt over as Bret coming in and being the force that finally got WCW back on track in the "war with NWO", Hogan doesn't bytch because he's right there in the mix and continues to hold the strap and WCW keeps bringing money in from the US and now the tours they have to run every couple of months in Canada because of Bret.

shyt you even take Jericho, Benoit and Malenko and have Bret form a new Foundation. Call them the Dungeon Family or some shyt. WCW fukked that shyt all up and Hogan played a part but they could have made it happen
:damn: at the Nitros if that happened
 

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:damn: at the Nitros if that happened


shyt could have been epic. Worst thing was the blueprint was there but WCW refused to use it. Take your in house NWO vs WCW story line, add in the story line from WWF which was DX vs Hart Foundation and simply end the Hogan/NWO vs Sting shyt and insert Hart in Stings place and BOOM you have a whole mother year of TV PPV'S and shows at the least.

Creative didn't have to do a gotdamn thing and they could have pulled it off. You just let Bret carry it over from WWE, his character doesn't change at all. You have wrestlers who were trained by his father...can't call em the Hart Foundation so you change the shyt who gives a fukk. shyt was like handing a muthafuka a blank check and instead of using it they tore it up...seriously pisses me off to the day because wrestling was so great at that time because it was two federations who were both entertaining as fukk.

shyt to me was the equivalent of having to Pro Football leagues and both of them are head to head and you HAVE TO WATCH BOTH. Mondays were so epic...:mjcry:
 

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So HBK who forfeited titles all the time, is all business, while Bret who jobbed in his prime to an ancient Bob Backlund, is a mark? Right...

HBK is a politician, but he never outright said, "ill never lose in San Antonio". :mjlol:


If Vince wanted it bad enough, hbk did it.


And Backlund mightve been old but he was a legitimate world champion with a lengthy reign.

I have one you lying ass fakkit :camby:

:russ:
 

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HBK is a politician, but he never outright said, "ill never lose in San Antonio". :mjlol:


If Vince wanted it bad enough, hbk did it.


And Backlund mightve been old but he was a legitimate world champion with a lengthy reign.



:russ:
Naw, he just said I'm not doing any jobs in the territory. Changed the One Night Only finish on Bulldog at the last minute when Bulldog had been putting him over for years. Filling punk..
 

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Naw, he just said I'm not doing any jobs in the territory. Changed the One Night Only finish on Bulldog at the last minute when Bulldog had been putting him over for years. Filling punk..

Say what you want, Vince has final say.

Bret forced Vinces hand.

Facts.
 

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This is exactly why I said they shouldn't have even introduced Bret in WCW until they were in Canada. You do it that way and you can continue the shyt that was going on in WWF, allow Bret to shyt on WWF and Hogan at the same time.

He could have been like "fukk WWF, Vince and you too Hogan for helping build that piece of shyt company". Have him run down Hogan in Canada the entire time he is there and while on tour he wins that belt and leaves Canada as champion.

To appease Hogan you tell him "you're going to get the belt back as soon as we get back to the states and you're going to terrorize Bret along with your goons until we go back in a couple months". That way Hogan, NWO and Bret all stay strong.

Bret is the focal point of WCW because he has come in and immediately feuded with Hogan and NWO so the roster gets behind him in Canada and when he returns back to the US because NWO beats the fukk out of him causing him to lose the title. Announcers put the shyt over as Bret coming in and being the force that finally got WCW back on track in the "war with NWO", Hogan doesn't bytch because he's right there in the mix and continues to hold the strap and WCW keeps bringing money in from the US and now the tours they have to run every couple of months in Canada because of Bret.

shyt you even take Jericho, Benoit and Malenko and have Bret form a new Foundation. Call them the Dungeon Family or some shyt. WCW fukked that shyt all up and Hogan played a part but they could have made it happen


You're forgetting Goldberg and Sting in that elseworlds story.
 
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