You think black feminists got their wakeup call?

[onelastdeath]

@Y2Dre

 

[OliviaTwist]

So y'all hate when SOME Black women generalize and state nikkas ain't shyt but then just because a Black woman recognizes she has to fight sexism and racism she's a pawn to the white woman?

 

[Concerning VLoLence]

maybe on both sides you vet the person you having kids with so things like this aren't a surprise to you

It's a talking point to paint black men as poor and uneducated.

Which means black women should be the leaders of their households and thus the race.

 

[Concerning VLoLence]

So y'all hate when SOME Black women generalize and state nikkas ain't shyt but then just because a Black woman recognizes she has to fight sexism and racism she a pawn to the white woman?

Strawman fallacy.

Your a pawn because you built your principles on someone else's facade.

White women don't even act like they are ''going their own way".

 

[onelastdeath]

Black people in general are underpaid and underemployed so I'm sorry but the typical black man is probably not going to be in a position to financially support the entire family by his lonesome. Not once have I ever suggested that black women are the leaders. What I'm saying is that there are two major roles that make families work; the financial piece and the nurturing piece. Black men feel their ONLY obligation to their family is the financial piece and when he is unable to do that, he plays NO role at all. IF the woman is making more money, then the man needs to do more of the nurturing piece. I'm not suggesting that dynamic exist forever, but if that's what needs to be done, he needs to do it.

Black men are drowning in this ideal of masculinity that they got from the same white man that made it difficult for them to achieve it in the first place. Black women are not interested in drowning with you. You are not less of a man because you make the least amount of money. You are not less of a man if you're the one at the PTA meetings. You are less of a man when choose to abandon your family because you are unable to fill the role YOU feel you can't do. "I can't take care of y'all so I'll just go take care of myself". Leaving the woman with all the burden. That's unfair and that's why black women are angry.

What a terrible post. This idea that BW do no wrong and are not at all reponsible for the current condition of the community is crazy. But I'm not into intraracial warfare. Can't do that shyt anymore. So cook.

Black men have as many reasons to be angry with black women as black women have to be angry with black men.

Truthfully though, we aren't getting anywhere being angry at eachother. Especially when the root of all our problems in our community are tied to conditioning and damage done by WS

 

[Rawtid]

You don't need to say something explicitly for people to understand what your implying.

In reality black women don't have the power or resources to "go their own way".

Like a said earlier, it is proven black feminism is built upon a faulty foundation now.

I don't feel black women are interested in going our own way, I'm not anyway. We want to be lead and supported by the black man but yall the ones who want to opt out if you can't meet the criteria that white men have set for yall.

 

[Rawtid]

What a terrible post. This idea that BW do no wrong and are not at all reponsible for the current condition of the community is crazy. But I'm not into intraracial warfare. Can't do that shyt anymore. So cook.

Black men have as many reasons to be angry with black women as black women have to be angry with black men.

Truthfully though, we aren't getting anywhere being angry at eachother. Especially when the root of all our problems in our community are tied to conditioning and damage done by WS

I didn't suggest that black women do no wrong LMAO! There are quite a few black women that hold on to the same outdated ideals of masculinity that black men do and it's crippling to us as a whole. I'm not your enemy. You are not mine.

 

[feelosofer]

I would say no, only because there are different schools of feminists, there are also womanists, Black women who believe primarily in the empowerment of Black women, who never really subscribed to the traditional idea of feminism which was really a backdoor to White Supremacy. Womanists already have known what time it is, Black FEMINISTS will always continue to prioritize gender over race even when history (this election included) has shown them that white women will always defer to white men when pressed.

 

[Matt504]

"I can take care of a Black woman if she's willing to live in mediocrity" - anonymous

 

[onelastdeath]

I didn't suggest that black women do no wrong LMAO! There are quite a few black women that hold on to the same outdated ideals of masculinity that black men do and it's crippling to us as a whole. I'm not your enemy. You are not mine.

I always find it funny that women think that the biggest problem with BM is their obsession with masculinity. And not 400 years of damage done to his psyche that have nothing to do with masculinity.

And even if it did, even if black men are "hyper masculine", we have to be. White men can afford to be passive feminine people because they have an entire system holding them up.

If there are ANY men are are feminized its BLACK MEN. Seeing that the black community is a matriarchy.

Black men have watched their women get sold, watched their women get raped, watched their women get murdered, watched their daughters get sold, raped, murdered and beaten, and y'all angry that he's hyper masculine? Y'all angry that after years of being tortured psychologically, that he's hyper masculine?

Y'all ever consider that the black man is as masculine as he is, and more tied into his masculinity than white men are because black women aren't as feminine as white women?

You ever think that black women are not as feminine as white women because they can't be? Because we are In a system that demands us to he stronger?

I have no problem with gay people, or black LGBTQ, I support them. And I'm not saying a gay man can't be a real man. That's not true.

But, when you have a system that at every turn tries to break the will of the black Man, he has no choice but to be hyper masculine.

Y'all want black men to be like white men, and it'll never happen, because we can't afford to be.

Black women can never be like white women Either, because they can't afford to be.

I wish one day we could all just accept who the fukk we are. And work together without using white men and women as a standard we could never live up to, because we ARE NOT THE SAME.

 

[Consigliere]

Cant imagine how miserable one would have to be to be worried about what Black feminists think.

Glad you guys are on the case.

 

[Concerning VLoLence]

I don't feel black women are interested in going our own way, I'm not anyway. We want to be lead and supported by the black man but yall the ones who want to opt out if you can't meet the criteria that white men have set for yall.

If you want to lead the black race then why did you deny it earlier?

A quality of leadership is to stand strong on your position in which you didn't do.

Your problem is with black patriarchy, and the low quality of black man that would accept your leadership.

It's one thing to flex on an unemployed black man than a professional with his life together.

Also white men aren't the sole progenitors of patriarchy.

Your logic is to fight white supremacy by getting behind black women who are employed by white men/women.

 

[Concerning VLoLence]

"I can take care of a Black woman if she's willing to live in mediocrity" - anonymous

Anonymous source is you...

 

[WheatThins]

yall got problems.

all black men (rappers, football players, actors, regular people, etc) are not the same

all black women (feminists, "models", mothers, regular girls, etc) are not the same

all these statements starting with "black men", "black feminists", "black women" etc. like there are only 4 types of black people in the world and you know them all or something

given that, maybe the more logical and factual thing to say would be "the black feminist that my circumstances allow me to encounter....", "the black men i can afford to be around..."

right now you guys are tearing each other down over pure emotion and lack of direction. if yall dont have a personal journal i guess get it out here then,

 

[Gravity]

Black men feel their ONLY obligation to their family is the financial piece and when he is unable to do that, he plays NO role at all.

That's a bullshyt generalization.