You'll Need a Pace(r) Maker For Two Harts This Time | Official Pacers (#4) vs. Knicks (#3) Eastern Conference Finals Thread

[ISO]

No, but they are a better team clearly when the ball is moving,

Every team is better when the ball is moving. This is the most cliche thing a basketball fan can say.

You’re putting way too much stock in OG and Mikal as scorers. Brunson tends to call his number when others aren’t performing.

When it’s working and we’re winning it’s crickets on nights it inevitably doesn’t out come the diatribes.

 

[ISO]

Both of Yall been emotional over Thibs and Brunson. “B-but we are in the ecf!” All season long Knicks have been pulling wins out their ass when they could actually be playing better.

It’s like Yall are okay with underachieving because the Knicks are deep in the playoffs.

It’s okay to want more as a fan brehs. It’s okay to criticize brehs. It’s weird energy.

Underachieving

 

[OsO]

When NY is locked in on D they are the better team. Unfortunately they only lock in defensively in spurts.

And it's crazy to me how if you're the Knicks and you know that, why is defense not your top priority? The offense will always come with this squad, especially when they're getting stops.

 

[OsO]

No, but they are a better team clearly when the ball is moving, that is also antithetical to what Jalen Brunson has become. Instead of relying on switches to get favorable match ups, move the ball and if the ball happens to come back to Jalen, cool. If not, it's OK too. KAT has averaged over 20ppg before, Bridges was when he was on Brooklyn. The best version of the Knicks would be Jalen Brunson averaging 19-20 ppg with Mikel and OG picking up the difference. That would help with the offensive load so that he isn't doing it so much and that he'd also have energy on defense because the Pacers are targeting him as the weak link on the Knicks defense.

Church

 

[Trojan 24]

Talking about him like he's returning from injury.

"Can the Pacers take a pivotal Game 4 with John returning after his suspension?"

 

[ISO]

The entire NBA landscape is watching this team, many for the first, real time and pinpointing immediately where the issues are but we’re delusional…

No…there is massive hive mind group think and hate towards Tom Thibodeau ever since Derrick Rose tore his ACL close to 15 years ago.

Every coach can be critiqued along similar lines across the league. It’s very common, toxic NBA discourse perhaps no league treats its coaches as poorly. Thibodeau is one of the great basketball coaches of the 21st century. A lot of critiques range from nitpicking to not being backed by any empirical data whatsoever.

Thibs gets all the credit for losing but none of it for winning.

 

[OsO]

Every team is better when the ball is moving. This is the most cliche thing a basketball fan can say.

You’re putting way too much stock in OG and Mikal as scorers. Brunson tends to call his number when others aren’t performing.

When it’s working it’s crickets on nights it inevitably doesn’t out come the diatribes.

There's a difference between Brunson controlling the dribble to focus on his own shot, versus creating motion in the offense. He needs a better balance towards creating motion in the offense.

The issue is Brunson needs extra time to work to get a good shot off, because he's smaller and has to get the defense off balance first. As opposed to other, bigger players who can just say, "I'm getting to my spot and taking my shot and there's nothing the defense can do about it." He's not that player.

 

[clutch]

Him after his son goes off in game 4

 

[RickyGQ]

No…there is massive hive mind group think and hate towards Tom Thibodeau ever since Derrick Rose tore his ACL close to 15 years ago.

Every coach can be critiqued along similar lines across the league. It’s very common, toxic NBA discourse perhaps no league treats its coaches as poorly. Thibodeau is one of the great basketball coaches of the 21st century. A lot of critiques range from nitpicking to not being backed by any empirical data whatsoever.

Thibs gets all the credit for losing but none of it for winning.

Two things can be true at once. People pointing out that the Knicks run a difficult offense isn’t a unique jab at Thibs. It’s a valid fukking critique to say that Brunson hunting isos all game isn’t the best use of this roster offensively.

 

[ISO]

There's a difference between Brunson controlling the dribble to focus on his own shot, versus creating motion in the offense. He needs a better balance towards creating motion in the offense.

The issue is Brunson needs extra time to work to get a good shot off, because he's smaller and has to get the defense off balance first. As opposed to other, bigger players who can just say, "I'm getting to my spot and taking my shot and there's nothing the defense can do about it." He's not that player.

He is that type of player. There isn’t a more resilient half-court scorer other than maybe Shai or Durant in the league today.

This is another cliche, the size cliche, who are these bigger players that do this? None of these motherfukkers are better at getting to their spot than Brunson.

U know what bigger players like Anthony Edwards and Jayson Tatum are doing? Settling for jumpers.

 

[RickyGQ]

There's a difference between Brunson controlling the dribble to focus on his own shot, versus creating motion in the offense. He needs a better balance towards creating motion in the offense.

The issue is Brunson needs extra time to work to get a good shot off, because he's smaller and has to get the defense off balance first. As opposed to other, bigger players who can just say, "I'm getting to my spot and taking my shot and there's nothing the defense can do about it." He's not that player.

Not a single person has said to bench or trade Brunson like nikkas have said about KAT. We all recognize all he’s done for us. Just pick your spots better. nikka regularly takes over games and wins them for us. Facts. But when he’s in that mode in the first quarter, out the gate?! It’s concerning.

 

[bigde09]

He is that type of player. There isn’t a more resilient half-court scorer other than maybe Shai or Durant in the league today.

This is another cliche, the size cliche, who are these bigger players that do this? None of these motherfukkers are better at getting to their spot than Brunson.

U know what bigger players like Anthony Edwards and Jayson Tatum are doing? Settling for jumpers.

You are purposely ignoring what he's saying. He never said he's BAD at getting to his spot. It just takes a little more work for him.

You rather be disingenuous than actually look at what you are seeing. If this was any other team you would see what nikkas are saying.

No one ain't saying Brunson isn't nice. No one is saying he's not the reason why Knicks are here in the first place.

 

[VegetasHairline]

For all the top end talent the Knicks have, they make things much more difficult than it needs to be.

 

[The War Report]

That was such a tough as win. Goddamn.

 

[RickyGQ]

You are purposely ignoring what he's saying. He never said he's BAD at getting to his spot. It just takes a little more work for him.

You rather be disingenuous than actually look at what you are seeing. If this was any other team you would see what nikkas are saying.

No one ain't saying Brunson isn't nice. No one is saying he's not the reason why Knicks are here in the first place.

But we are saying he might be the reason we might lose this specific series.