Young employees are losing out ‘on a lot’ by not going to the office, business experts say

[Anerdyblackguy]

FOH Jamie, working for home doesn’t mean you can’t network. You can set up lunches from zoom if you want to

 

[Spectre]

If it's a nightmare, it's by design.

Maybe

But it's hard for institutions to suddenly accept over the course of a year that the new remote work model is not a temporary phase

 

[Wild self]

Fukkkkkkkkkk...........
I Never thought of it that wayyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Breh

That is indentured servitude. Grown people telling me to eat at 12:30pm and only have ONE hour to digest my food, nourish myself, and get back to work??

How do jobs have the power to tell you that you to ignore your body's needs, just to sit around?

 

[Wild self]

Not going to work I realized how much I don't give a fukk about my coworkers personal bs . We weren't friends after all. Not one coworker check on me the whole time

And That is mad unhealthy. Working with people that don't care about you as a person, and never check on you during a pandemic. That fukks with your mental, and realize how toxic that is over a period of time.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Right but most companies only do good onboarding for company info and hr policies, not onboarding for the specific role itself
Even being assigned buddies is not the same as actually seeing different department personnel at work doing what they do

But that's the onboarding I am referring to.
That's the onboarding process that they need to create, and yes it may very well be on a per department level, yes ideally yes.
If companies created a process they may have even better outcomes and ramping up new employees even faster and better than being onsite.
They just need to create that process.

My last job was mostly a desk gig reviewing other people's work.
But I took it upon myself to go out on the mfg floor, meet operators, supervisors, managers, make friends in various depts, look up who answers to who, hear everyone's motivations and goals. Within 2 months I was approving things and once in a while being asked to lead a couple meetings because I had that reach at that point.

Bro that's great but you could do all that via a virtual meeting too.
You are just not used to the idea, you are capable of imagining walking into a different department and just sparking a conversation with someone with a specific task to learn from them, but you have a hard time visualizing doing it remotely, only because that's not how it was always.

Being onsite def helps the learning curve depending on the job. If the newbie has a go getter mindset but is remote, there's gonna be some roadblocks.
He or she may be able to get the immediate job done but that growth is gonna be stunted for a while because all they think about is just doing their job and clocking out when the road to leadership involves way more than that.

Bro it's the opposite, office chairs be spinining once the clock hits 5 O'clock!!!
It's proven that employees don't look at the clock while remote as much as they did while onsite.
Everyone has a bus to catch, or they want to run out before traffic congestion, or they have a kid to pick up and again worried of traffic, and so many other reasons.
But if you in the comfort of your home there's no chair that will be spinning.

Most experienced people already paid their dues. They're no longer eager to add stress to go to the next level of leadership and deal with the political bs. So they just want to get paid and have work life balance. New professionals haven't gotten there yet. They still have lots to learn. Some of that stuff is def not gonna come through on Teams or Webex.

This impression that you have is based on current onsite practices being executed while remote.

We just need to get over this cultural change and adapt to it.
Everyone's impression and studies being done are all based on onsite processes but for the remote.
We need a new culture and processes specifically catered for the remote worker.
We just need to realize that, do it, and then form our impressions.
And studies should be based on proccesses for the remote worker, not antiquated onsite processes but for the remote worker.

 

[Buckeye Fever]

blue collar gang

gotta get my ass up and get to work regardless of the weather

Just wait til the snow hits. You look out the window and just

 

[Wild self]

They want you to be miserable so you spend money on stuff to make yourself happy. To spend money you gotta work.

Thry want you to be out of shape so you absolutely need insurance for doctor visits. Gotta work to have insurance

And they want you to always be buying a new vehicle to drivr there, which requires money

Sick just thinking about it. They want to burn you out, for stimulating an artificial economy.

 

[lib123]

There is some truth. During the next downturn, it will be a lot easier for management to layoff people they don't see. Especially people that don't really do much work. Daily interactions and being 'liked' are why a lot of people stay employed.

 

[Buckeye Fever]

Your career gives you half hour lunches?

I get 1 third of an hour

 

[blues_funk_reggae]

I been working from home for the last 7 months, this shyt has been the glory days for me
during downtime I'm watching movies, playing guitar, listening to music, ordering food/making my own food.
Once work is over I shut off my computer, grab my gym bag and I'm out.
Not getting to work upset about the commute has improved my performance.
The peace of mind being home also helps tremendously.


I know yall gonna clown this but.......being at the office and having to take a #2 and walking to the bathroom like ain't it.

Homefield advantage/comfort/peace

 

[jadillac]

Alot of this is that so many third party companies positioned themselves to profit from heavy business areas. Real estate, restaurants and etc

Damn, i forgot about that aspect.

These traditional Happy Hour hotspots gotta be hurtin a lil. And the lunch spots definitely.

 

[Wild self]

Translation:

"How can I sexually harass my secretaries, feel empowered by micromanaging my peasants, and deliver my daily racial microagressions to my black employees when all you guys are working from home? "

These CEOs need to burn

Also, work from home is making it hard for Middle management to justify their existence

This is another reason why office culture is toxic. Any non wealthy white male has no real power.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

This is another aspect people don't consider.

The more I interact with people online is the more I realise it is a mistake to form conclusions based on what is said on message boards and Twitter (said for dramatic effect. I already new this).

The internet is more likely to attract the views of introverts. People who look at coffee talk with scorn and prefer to be left on their own.

Most people don't fall into that category. I don't mind working for home, but there are parts of going into the office that I miss. The general communication in between tasks and being able to leave work in the office.

I did notice this

Most of the people who want to go back to the office are “extroverts” who be miserable at home (being around wife, kids, etc.).

Most of the people who were complaining about quarantining are the same. I could care less about being around people everyday

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Yeah I’m sure these young chicks are losing out on being sexually harassed at work.

bet they’re kicking themselves over missing that part of the experience

 

[Wild self]

I get 1 third of an hour

That's illegal