Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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Yep seen this happen with one of my cousins friends. She was all about school and didn't want to date. My cousin use to try and hook her up.

This is cool if you make this decision and still socialize. The problem I have seen is many of these folks have never been in any type of relationship (even participated in a date or dates). Which is a problem cause once they try to eventually date (which most people do) their growth is stunted. Now they are some 30 plus year old who has no idea how to date or hold a conversation with people their age in an intimate manner.

shyt be sad as fukk. Saw this happen with a couple of dudes at work. One brotha and one white dude. Both in their 30s..supposedly two dudes who never even went out on a date with a woman.

I remember some of the brothas at work set the brotha on a date with a beautiful intelligent sista. Man she said it was the worst date she every had. He was so in his shell cause he had never been on a date with a woman. Imagine a man 36 year old man who had never been on a date with a woman. shyt we actually believed the brotha had never even kissed a girl. Don't no man or woman want to deal with a misfit like that.

Man them folks be socially stunted got the body of a 30 plus year old but the dating mind of a 14 year old.
You know i have run into so many women not bw, that have never had a serious relationship, like not even 3 months after being 25+. And it’s very sad, because they tend to misread queues and overanalyze shyt. But they have hopes of being married and having kids.
 

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:mjlol:at people blaming video games and porn. No dude would rather play Fortnite than get his dikk sucked. Just like in 2004 no dude would rather play GTA San Andreas than get p*ssy. Video games will never be that good, same with porn. It’s just Dudes CANT get laid so they just bide their time with porn and video games.

Whenever I see discussions on this topic either online or on TV it’s always framed like guys are choosing technology over dating women.
 

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Because that’s the ONLY reality a lot of people living these days. And in turn, life is beginning to imitate art.
The age old issues between men and women are now being amplified by media and everybody is attaching themselves to these issues making them seem even larger and creating more problematic behavior.
To the extent that even the most regular degular chick talk about $1000 dates. Even the squarest dude talm bout having a main and a roster of side chicks.

In philosopher circles with my friends when we get high and get on our air talks, we start talking about this effect being similar to French philosopher’s idea Bauillard simulacrum and simulacra. A lie is presented. A myth or a false image, and people begin to identify with it to the extent that they start to prefer and refer to the lie over reality. (Like preferring the taste of Cheetos over real cheese. In time, that preference could usurp and replace the real actual product.)

The average man and the average woman needs to wake up b4 it’s too late. There are dudes who don’t even know what real titties and ass look like. There are chicks who think a man is trash if she can’t live a Real Housewife of Atlanta lifestyle with him.

All based on fantasies they see online. Meanwhile that IG chick enticing all these dudes got filters, CGI makeup, ass surgery, shots, angles, weaves, and look like the same chick you might overlook on your way to the store.
And the ballas a lotta chicks are craving be broke as fukk, in debt to record labels, renting cars for events, getting fukked in the ass, barely making ends meet.

I was talking about that shyt with some friends the other day :wow: except about the Fyre festival and IG influencer culture in connection with hyperrealism, not so much about IG modelling
 

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:mjlol:at people blaming video games and porn. No dude would rather play Fortnite than get his dikk sucked. Just like in 2004 no dude would rather play GTA San Andreas than get p*ssy. Video games will never be that good, same with porn. It’s just Dudes CANT get laid so they just bide their time with porn and video games.

Whenever I see discussions on this topic either online or on TV it’s always framed like guys are choosing technology over dating women.
I used to say that but my nephew is the prototype for a good looking light skin dude, with bright eyes and he has like no desire for women. He seems more asexual than anything and yes he is socially stunted. I’m working on breaking him and out building his confidence.
 

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Honestly that’s how i am now. I’m probably in the 20% that dudes on here hate on, but I don’t go after women like that because a lot of times it’s more of headache than what it’s worth. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze. I look at a lot more tangibles things at this point in my life. Especially after seeing what my brother went through with his ex wife. I don’t care how attractive a woman is, if the only value she’s bringing to my life is what’s in between her legs than it’s a hard pass for me. I’d rather invest my time more productively. You’ll pay a heavy tax in this life if you get the wrong woman pregnant.

plus let’s keep it a buck the only reason why men have a desire to smash multiple women, stems from the ability of getting a woman to be submissive more so than the feeling of actual sex. Basically when you learn to check your ego you don’t even trip off sex like that. Sure it feels good but it’s better when you’re doing it with someone you truly fukk with on a deeper level. Every thing else is about bragging rights.
:ohhh: I learn new shyt everyday.

Im sorry there’s a lot of trash ass women out here in the world. If our schools weren’t so trash and I ever get elected superintendent in my city (unlikely b/c they don’t like researchers in politics), I’d actually advocate for social skills training and more social emotional classes as a mandatory part of the curriculum.

Growing up at my schools we had shyt like civics classes and psychology and human wellness 101. We’d learn about hormones, decision making, positive communication strategies, shyt like peer mediation, and we had sex Ed courses.

I remember sessions called “He said/She said” where you had different scenarios and you had to choose an appropriate way to respond that was respectful. Those classes were jokes to me at the time. Dudes would be in there wildin on some “Excuse me Miss, what’s ur name!” BUT at the same time, having male and female teachers even broaching those types of discussions, and talking about healthy relationships, and emotional needs and biological imperative. It was a whole sex Ed curriculum. Legislation was passed against a lot of that by the way.

So it’s not in schools anymore in a time when families are more fractured than ever and a lot of people taking their social cues from the media/porn. So we desperately need it. Instead we pay applied behavior analysts and mental specialists and doctors and the medical industry once people have snapped, when attending to social emotional needs could fix a lotta shyt b4 it happens in the first place.:wow:
 
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I see the same ol talking points in this thread blaming men for being losers, lames and p*ssy but the real culprit is hypergamy. :francis: The reason this is happening is a combination of simps, social media, women becoming more and more independent and the rise of feminism. All this shyt contributes to females perceiving themselves as higher in value than they really are and less willing to settle with their male equivalent. They rather hold out for a top 20 percent man that will never settle for them.


If you don't see that this shyt is exploding at an unsustainable rate to the point where it is causing a lot of men collectively to be like :manny: when it comes to getting at women then you're in a for a rude awakening.
 

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Yep seen this happen with one of my cousins friends. She was all about school and didn't want to date. My cousin use to try and hook her up.

This is cool if you make this decision and still socialize. The problem I have seen is many of these folks have never been in any type of relationship (even participated in a date or dates). Which is a problem cause once they try to eventually date (which most people do) their growth is stunted. Now they are some 30 plus year old who has no idea how to date or hold a conversation with people their age in an intimate manner.

shyt be sad as fukk. Saw this happen with a couple of dudes at work. One brotha and one white dude. Both in their 30s..supposedly two dudes who never even went out on a date with a woman.

I remember some of the brothas at work set the brotha on a date with a beautiful intelligent sista. Man she said it was the worst date she every had. He was so in his shell cause he had never been on a date with a woman. Imagine a man 36 year old man who had never been on a date with a woman. shyt we actually believed the brotha had never even kissed a girl. Don't no man or woman want to deal with a misfit like that.

Man them folks be socially stunted got the body of a 30 plus year old but the dating mind of a 14 year old.

It's sad. I have a second cousin that kind of looks like this
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I hooked a friend I grew up with her on a date. Nice dude, but needs to come out of his shell. I asked her how it went.

She was like :yeshrug:He didn't say anything.

I asked him later and he was like, "she was so hot, I didn't know what to say" :dead:
 

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I was talking about that shyt with some friends the other day :wow: except about the Fyre festival and IG influencer culture in connection with hyperrealism, not so much about IG modelling
Talk that talk!:ohlawd:Its one hell of a fascinating phenomenon when you can bombard a human being with a false reality until they prefer it instead of what’s real. AND then eventually usurp the place of reality altogether.
The Matrix was based on a lot of his work.

Foucault is interesting too in terms of the power of internalization and how humans can be lied to so much, that they internalize or normalize the lie in their own psyches and then in turn ACT on the lie they’ve been told—thus making the lie a reality.

Spooky shyt. We are literally watching the artificial hijack reality. I’m TOLD what to think, therefore (that’s what I become) I am.
:wow: And it happens in plain sight so subtly that it’s hard to even point it out.
 

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You know i have run into so many women not bw, that have never had a serious relationship, like not even 3 months after being 25+. And it’s very sad, because they tend to misread queues and overanalyze shyt. But they have hopes of being married and having kids.

I agree. But overall most women have dreams of being married and having kids. And even many men eventually usually have dreams of being married or having kids.

The problem is many of the ladies you mentioned will have issues dating because basically their ability to date has been stunted. In modern society we don't teach people social skills anymore (perfect example people don't even know how to properly eat in a public setting). Back in the day school taught you social skills in classes. If nothing else they taught you how to socialize with the opposite sex. Them days are long gone for these young folks.

So how is a woman 25 year old plus or in her 30s going to know how to have an intimate conversation with a man her age if she has never been on a date. We all know how our first date was. Now try doing some of that silly unacceptable shyt at 25 or 30. Expect not to get a call back.

No man with good intentions wants to date a woman who has a mind of a 14 year old on an intimate level. Just like we wouldn't expect a grown as woman wanting to date a 25 year old man that thinks like a 14 year old on a intimate level.

Thats why I encourage these young knuckleheads to date when they are school age (high school and college). If nothing else you learn what is acceptable and what is not when dating. Better to make mistakes when you are young. Than be 30 and making a fool out of yourself. Especially as an adult when time is of the essence and you don't have time to waste.

Breh I literally use to know a girl who would get scared around a dude she liked at work and would run away. Literally run down the hall. In what world is that acceptable....you learn as a teenager and a young adult to control your emotions and not do that. When you see people you like. But this 28 year old woman would literally turn into a 12 year old around this dude.

And yes she was another one of those people who had never dated in her life. She was a virgin as well...but that means nothing. She was a 28 year old woman who had never been on a date with a man. 28 freaking years old. Now what type of dating life is she going to have? Probably similar to that 36 year old brotha that had never kissed a woman.
 

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But They have high superficial standards. Even average broads these days, have high standards cause dudes be hollering at them by the hour.
Yeah we can shyt on men with the typical talking points, ( Not approaching, no social skills, abusing porn, etc)


But when young dudes are collectively taking themselves out the game because they see the juice ain't worth the squeeze you gotta search deeper for the root cause. Blaming men is the easy culprit.:manny:
 

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I see the same ol talking points in this thread blaming men for being losers, lames and p*ssy but the real culprit is hypergamy. :francis: The reason this is happening is a combination of simps, social media, women becoming more and more independent and the rise of feminism. All this shyt contributes to females perceiving themselves as higher in value than they really are and less willing to settle with their male equivalent. They rather hold out for a top 20 percent man that will never settle for them.


If you don't see that this shyt is exploding at an unsustainable rate to the point where it is causing a lot of men collectively to be like :manny: when it comes to getting at women then you're in a for a rude awakening.
I agree with most of this but the problems are on both sides. It’s a lot of cats on here that feel entitled to women out they league, just like women do.

A lot of dudes play a fukk ton of games on women, just like women play games on men.

It’s really just a lot of hurt people hurting people as well as people who are innocent, genuine and have pure intentions.

A lot of people are trying get what they can out of someone before they get hurt, played or the next best thing.


The real problem is that we live in a society that expects instant gratification. Investing in quality and tangible things is seen as a negative or losing whether it’s: education, companies, stocks, relationships and overall growth.

this stems from a lack of uncertainty, leadership, mentorship, and insecurity.


Once people can check their ego and see through bs then shyt will begin to change until then we’ll see a lot of fukkery. The best thing you can do is find a like minded woman with the same values and core goals as you. Trust me they’re out there they have to navigate through the same garage dating prospects.
 

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I used to say that but my nephew is the prototype for a good looking light skin dude, with bright eyes and he has like no desire for women. He seems more asexual than anything and yes he is socially stunted. I’m working on breaking him and out building his confidence.

Most of these people are masturbating like 4-5 times a week. They want sex they just can’t get it
 
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