You're an NBA Coach. How do you stop Steph Curry?

[Ronnie Lott]

faces wont stop the facts. what i said was 100% truth, i know this because i used that same defense vs lower level steph like chuckers when i played a lot of ball back in the day. what always amazed me is how many dudes that could play defense, just couldnt understand the mindset of a chucker. The chucker wants to chuck more than he wants to get a free layup. so therefore, their 3 ball becomes their layup. just like you try to clog the lane on a dwade or bron in their prime to stop the layup fest. you ride steph's shooting arm to keep him from raising up from 3 on you. do not go for any fakes going towards the basket. this means step back 3's should not work vs your defense. because you are not going for the initial step forward(towars the basket). I already know you are trying to create space to chuck. Not on my watch. you better call the refs to hit me with the ticky tack fouls. guys have been taught their entire life. "no layups". They have been taught "NO THREES." This is a new era of analytics and 3's going up like crazy. Steph and klay are the best at this new era. it will take some years before the nba catches up to them with defense and even change their mentality on defense.

again, if all of the analytics is saying spread the floor to get open 3's. What should the defensive analytics be saying? Sit on all shooters. do not collapse when a guy gets into the middle of the floor. the analytics should be focusing not on layups at the rim but carving out a wall so a guy can't get into that floater range without someone all up on his shooting hand.

but thats not the case yes. the offense right now is ahead of the defense. like way ahead.

anyone remember when the zone defense first got into the nba. it was terrible. but i also remembered what happened when the spurs finally figured out how to use it correctly. their defense became super lock down and smothering. especially for teams that were not great at shooting.

the ultimate zone was what Thibs did to kobe when he was with the celtics that year the lakers lossed in the finals.

SUPER ZONE. now this new style of offense has surpassed that super defense.

**to exactly what i said about defending him with your hands to your side or down. you're taught growing up to keep your hands out(most people still dont do that. its to give you a greater chance of tipping the ball if the guy passes it, and to give you quicker reaction to a guys shot or give you a quicker reaction to a guys dribbling. you can track the ball better when your hands/arms are extended. BUt with steph and this super quick shot without jumping really high. you need to have your hands in the read to tip block his shot position. this is before he shoots. you're not going to steal the ball. so why even have your hands down there? prepare for the inevitable...the jumper.

When i saw steph dribbling i was like he's about to shoot that vs okc. everyone keeps saying WOW i didnt think he would shoot that. WHY NOT? the guy is that crazy with the 3 ball. Respect it, fear it. understand it. Its real. stop living in denial. he's liable to chuck from the tip ball circle. did anyone not watch him practicing that very same shot during the allstar game? he hit one or two just like that. did yall forget? "bu but it was the allstar game where they dont play defense."

Did you watch that last second steph shot again, was anyone all up on him? NOPE. so the defense was about as bad on that play as if it was the allstar game, which is why he shot that super far 3 that he knew he could make. he's done that a few weeks ago in the allstar game.

this is what i mean when i say MOST people are not defensive minded. its not just about having the physical tools like a Kawhi L, or butler. but its also bout out thinking the offensive guy. to do that you have to pay attention to detail. i use to lock guys up even on the playground because while i was stretching or lacing my shooes up. i was watching you take shots or do dribble moves or layups before the game would star. even in high school, rec leagues i would watch guys during shoot around when most people are worried about chucking themselves. i was half shooting and mostly watching my opponent. trying to understand their hot spots, their rhythm, timing, etc.

you can slow him down but you have to do the work. you have to do some serious homework.

No disrespect bro, but you ain't got the answers man. If 29 other GM's, coaches with championships, hundreds of players with decades of experience haven't figured out a way to stop Curry, why do you think you know

 

[Rout3r2035]

Sign Patrick Beverly and hope that bum does what he did to Young Sabo and hope he makes it look like an accident

Lowkey that dude is the second most valuable player in basketball if used correctly

 

[Chill b]

 

[Blackrogue]

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faces wont stop the facts. what i said was 100% truth, i know this because i used that same defense vs lower level steph like chuckers when i played a lot of ball back in the day. what always amazed me is how many dudes that could play defense, just couldnt understand the mindset of a chucker. The chucker wants to chuck more than he wants to get a free layup. so therefore, their 3 ball becomes their layup. just like you try to clog the lane on a dwade or bron in their prime to stop the layup fest. you ride steph's shooting arm to keep him from raising up from 3 on you. do not go for any fakes going towards the basket. this means step back 3's should not work vs your defense. because you are not going for the initial step forward(towars the basket). I already know you are trying to create space to chuck. Not on my watch. you better call the refs to hit me with the ticky tack fouls. guys have been taught their entire life. "no layups". They have been taught "NO THREES." This is a new era of analytics and 3's going up like crazy. Steph and klay are the best at this new era. it will take some years before the nba catches up to them with defense and even change their mentality on defense.

again, if all of the analytics is saying spread the floor to get open 3's. What should the defensive analytics be saying? Sit on all shooters. do not collapse when a guy gets into the middle of the floor. the analytics should be focusing not on layups at the rim but carving out a wall so a guy can't get into that floater range without someone all up on his shooting hand.

but thats not the case yes. the offense right now is ahead of the defense. like way ahead.

anyone remember when the zone defense first got into the nba. it was terrible. but i also remembered what happened when the spurs finally figured out how to use it correctly. their defense became super lock down and smothering. especially for teams that were not great at shooting.

the ultimate zone was what Thibs did to kobe when he was with the celtics that year the lakers lossed in the finals.

SUPER ZONE. now this new style of offense has surpassed that super defense.

**to exactly what i said about defending him with your hands to your side or down. you're taught growing up to keep your hands out(most people still dont do that. its to give you a greater chance of tipping the ball if the guy passes it, and to give you quicker reaction to a guys shot or give you a quicker reaction to a guys dribbling. you can track the ball better when your hands/arms are extended. BUt with steph and this super quick shot without jumping really high. you need to have your hands in the read to tip block his shot position. this is before he shoots. you're not going to steal the ball. so why even have your hands down there? prepare for the inevitable...the jumper.

When i saw steph dribbling i was like he's about to shoot that vs okc. everyone keeps saying WOW i didnt think he would shoot that. WHY NOT? the guy is that crazy with the 3 ball. Respect it, fear it. understand it. Its real. stop living in denial. he's liable to chuck from the tip ball circle. did anyone not watch him practicing that very same shot during the allstar game? he hit one or two just like that. did yall forget? "bu but it was the allstar game where they dont play defense."

Did you watch that last second steph shot again, was anyone all up on him? NOPE. so the defense was about as bad on that play as if it was the allstar game, which is why he shot that super far 3 that he knew he could make. he's done that a few weeks ago in the allstar game.

this is what i mean when i say MOST people are not defensive minded. its not just about having the physical tools like a Kawhi L, or butler. but its also bout out thinking the offensive guy. to do that you have to pay attention to detail. i use to lock guys up even on the playground because while i was stretching or lacing my shooes up. i was watching you take shots or do dribble moves or layups before the game would star. even in high school, rec leagues i would watch guys during shoot around when most people are worried about chucking themselves. i was half shooting and mostly watching my opponent. trying to understand their hot spots, their rhythm, timing, etc.

you can slow him down but you have to do the work. you have to do some serious homework.

I thought I was the only one who'd watch my opponent during warm ups or any basketball activity as I stretched. I'd not really warm up and show what I could or could not do. I'd analyze strengths/ weaknesses, which side of the court they liked to score from. which leg they jumped off..

whether ambidextrous on the dribble or the finish, fitness...basically anything and everything and I'd use that against them in the game but do it in a way I didn't seem like I intentionally baited them into situations I could anticipate the outcome.

I was really sneaky in how I played. Some teams would not put effort if you put up numbers quietly, some would crumble If you went at them hard like Russ. I played accordingly.

most people play the same against everyone as opposed to thinking I don't need to play the pass cause this dude shot is more deadly and we know his intentions. we know his role, we know the other dudes roles and how they want to play. why not subvert shyt and force them to do other things?

I don't want Steph shooting threes. let him score 50 in the paint I don't care. but threes are too easy for him and every time he has big numbers they are based on a high threes volume. let Dray shoot but I'm not letting him be a passer. Those two guys really are the key to GS.

 

[plushcarpet]

I'm putting in bench scrubs to body him
dude should be getting knocked around on every play

 

[ThaGlow]

Hack-A-Warriors. Hack any of them.

Hey, they still might win, but only 2 pts at a time. Can't make 3s when you shooting FTs.

 

[rapbeats]

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I thought I was the only one who'd watch my opponent during warm ups or any basketball activity as I stretched. I'd not really warm up and show what I could or could not do. I'd analyze strengths/ weaknesses, which side of the court they liked to score from. which leg they jumped off..

whether ambidextrous on the dribble or the finish, fitness...basically anything and everything and I'd use that against them in the game but do it in a way I didn't seem like I intentionally baited them into situations I could anticipate the outcome.

I was really sneaky in how I played. Some teams would not put effort if you put up numbers quietly, some would crumble If you went at them hard like Russ. I played accordingly.

most people play the same against everyone as opposed to thinking I don't need to play the pass cause this dude shot is more deadly and we know his intentions. we know his role, we know the other dudes roles and how they want to play. why not subvert shyt and force them to do other things?

I don't want Steph shooting threes. let him score 50 in the paint I don't care. but threes are too easy for him and every time he has big numbers they are based on a high threes volume. let Dray shoot but I'm not letting him be a passer. Those two guys really are the key to GS.

exactly. you dont necessarily stop people from scoring. you dont allow people to do what they LOVE to do. take that away. when you do that, that will affect how they approach the game, which will affect the entire team gameplan. if steph has to go into pass mode or always driving to the paint. then he's not shooting. well who is? klay, dray, barnes, iggy. now ride klay off that 3. klay can post up. fine by me. post me up. slows the game down. thats not what you guys want. you want it up tempo. so not only have i ran you off the 3 line, i've slowed the game down. NOW i go at you hard on offense. pick curry off multiple times just cause. same with klay. have klay legs tightening up come the 4th. cause of all that chasing his man stuff.
same with draymond.

make these dudes work.

how many on this board realizes Gstate over passes on purpose?

Let me say it again. they dont just make the Extra pass. They make 2 extra passes and sometimes 3. WHY? its not necessary. the extra pass is to the best/better shot available to the person that can make that shot at the highest clip. in addition its also to keep your guys warm.

But why does gstate over pass it on purpose? TO MAKE YOUR TEAM WORK. this goes all the way back to the Defensive drill called the SHELL drill.

pass pass pass, defense slides, slides slides. pass pas pass, skip pass. defense you better get there.

the truth is this, physics says your feet cant move as fast as a ball in the air. you will always be behind the pass. unless you already know where it going next. then you anticipate. now you're susceptible to a hard ball fake. but if they always have to ball fake you, that messes with their offense. thats not what they intended on doing. they want to make you work and have you running around like idiots. you have to run some type of zonish defense to defend the 3 line. this will keep your guys from getting to tired but still manning the 3 line. you are in essence shortening the amt of space your defenders have to make up when the ball is swung around.

They are swinging it like crazy to tire your team out. this is another reason why gstates offense is their best defense. their defense is ok. they have klay, barnes and iggy as very solid defensive guys. i would say iggy is a great defender. and klay is up there too because he's very strong. he doesnt get moved around often.

but their entire team isnt all that on defense. their numbers look good. because they are playing tired legs. since their offense is sup high powered and will make you work so much even in the half court.

see MDA from the suns days only had it partially right. he tried to score quick. which would make you run a lot. but running in a straight line to get back. gstate is ok with setting up and swinging it, cutting, swinging it some more. cause you have to run to catch up, then move laterally, run again. lateral. run lateral. sheesh... i'm dead tired thinking about it.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Rodman

 

[Illuminatos]

i know this because i used that same defense vs lower level steph like chuckers when i played a lot of ball back in the day.

Man, what is up with you nikkas comparing some bums in your scrubby ass rec league to the greatest shooter of all time?

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

you make him work on offence and defense

press him all 94 feet
get under him

 

[DoubleClutch]

KCP gave Curry one of his worst shooting nights of the season. This guy defense is underrated. I dont want to hear any "Curry was having a off night".



You cant stop any star player but that is how you slow them down.

When Gsw faces two long athletic guards who play both ends. Curry won't dominate.

Then throw a legit big man in the middle and its trouble for the Warriors especially draymond

Didn't the Bucks beat the Warriors once this season too?

All that length will stop curry. Even though I think curry might've sat out that game...

 

[Hammer]

Knicks shut him out a like a month ago

Curry had 13 pts on 5-17 shooting

 

[NormanConnors]

Yea, go look at tape of when the pistons destroyed them or what Lillard just did.

You gotta make curry play both ends, get him in foul trouble or mentally shook.
OKC did this the 1st half until curry got his confidence

KCP gave Curry one of his worst shooting nights of the season. This guy defense is underrated. I dont want to hear any "Curry was having a off night".



You cant stop any star player but that is how you slow them down.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Nobody in the NBA knows how to stop the dude and you gonna ask nikkas in the Coli?

 

[The Mayer]

shoot him in his leg, otherwise youve got no shot
dude can hit 3s from the moon