so what exactly is your stance? that blacks are doing fairly well for ourselves in terms of income and wealth?
Yvette Carnell vs Boyce Watkins. Yvette sets it on Boyce
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timestamp? cus it started @ 25:00 for me and shes talking about government intervention. not begging all random white people on the streets for a handout. also, if you've watched this video in full. you know yvette pretty much won the argument, even though both had decent points.
that makes no sense, but lets go with that. how well did "begging" work for other groups that have fought long and HARD for reparations. idiots calling it begging
it's the HARDEST fight we as a people would ever have in our lives.
timestamp? cus it started @ 25:00 for me and shes talking about government intervention. not begging all random white people on the streets for a handout. also, if you've watched this video in full. you know yvette pretty much won the argument, even though both had decent points.
that makes no sense, but lets go with that. how well did "begging" work for other groups that have fought long and HARD for reparations. idiots calling it begging
YouTube is acting funny, but it starts around 9min. I'll address the other part of your post in a min.
Free White & 21
AAGang
Oh no you don't. The argument was fundamental tools for building an economy NOT survival.
Skillset, family, and community ARE fundamental tools for building an economy - word to the jim crow era blacks who used those very same tools to build their economies in the past.
You're talking about what somebody "SUPPOSED" to do, instead of recognizing what they are and are not going to do.
But go ahead and keep waiting on the white man to save you because that's the "right" thing for them to do. Don't hold your breath though.
David_TheMan
Banned
Yes it is better, children aren't adults who can provide for themselves and who are suffering as a result of lack of ability to earn income.
I think children is actually an indictment of the mother in most of those instances, who sleep with men with no protection and have children they can't financially support.
Seeing that 70% of the children raised in poverty are of single mother homes.
I would add though it is symptomatic of a real issue that non-blacks are experiencing is the rise of single mothers (while for blacks its dropping) due to subsidization of bad female lifestyle choices via child support and other government services.
I've said what my stance is, economically black americans are doing well, especially in comparison to a lot of other blacks in this world, hell other people in this world.
Even in wealth accumulation, we aren't bad in a global perspective, the problem that ailes a lot of blacks is personal finance and learning how to save and invest. As for income its too low and most of this is a result of white supremacists who have used regulations to kick us out the job market and cause us to be dependent on white money which will lead to a lifestyle where wealth isn't created and stored.
What did the other groups do to "work long and hard reparations"? What did the Japanese do to force Reagan to give il some reparations? The Japanese people didn't do anything. They weren't out here marching on the streets begging whites for reparations. They had a country backing them up which gave them leverage to negotiate reparations. We don't have any leverage to negotiate with whites. When we did have some leverage in the 60s we sold out for Carnell's ideology. Instead of demandin the 40 acres and a mule to reinvest in our own segregated black communities, we settled for the illusion of inclusion that people like Carnell think is necessary. We really fell for the okie doke thinking that we were actually changing shyt usin the system. It's sad that blacks like you still haven't learned the lesson of the CRM yet.that makes no sense, but lets go with that. how well did "begging" work for other groups that have fought long and HARD for reparations. idiots calling it begging
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She makes a lot of good points. Starting a business with no social capital no distribution channels in crowded market place isnt the answer.
Plus some of Boyces ideas and practices are subject :Uptonogood:.
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She is, has arguments backed on data, and historical context and actually worked on Capitol Hill.
But oh ok.
She has really torpedoed a lot of Boyce Watkins arguments.
BrandonBanks
Arab Money
Imo Boyce views are better than Yvettes, he talks more about solutions, not "we can't" because of x,y,z
Yvette and a lot of other ppl just want to list a bunch of reasons about why we "can't" do stuff
Yvette and a lot of other ppl just want to list a bunch of reasons about why we "can't" do stuff
BrandonBanks
Arab Money
Exactly...I'm willing to bet 75% of AAs have Yvettes mindset, the rest of us are in the minority
Mothafukkas spend more time listing endless reasons why we "can't' do something than actually trying
fukk that
Find a way
One day I decided I was going to get it by any means and did it
Started out small...but have seen a lot of growth and profit since then
The reason that people like this are so dangerous is that they low key justify c00ning. c00ning is the only logical conclusion to her ideology. If you honestly believe that black people's only hope lies with the government, then why wait for reparations for the entire community? Why not do what you've got to do to get in where you fit in individually, so that you receive some of the systematic benefits that you feel that you're owed? If the government is the only hope then why get at blcks who pledge their allegiance to the system for individual gain?
I like Boyce but he's the only reason people know who this Carnell chic is. He should've peeped her game from the door and not allowed her to use his platform to elevate herself to push her deceptive c00n ideology.