Zerlina Maxwell: We should generally (automatically) believe rape claims

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Article says generally but it originally said "automatically" as you can see in the URL


Now the narrative appears to be falling apart: Her rapist wasn’t in the frat that she says he was a member of; the house held no party on the night of the assault; and other details are wobbly. Many people (not least U-Va. administrators) will be tempted to see this as a reminder that officials, reporters and the general public should hear both sides of the story and collect all the evidence before coming to a conclusion in rape cases. This is what we mean in America when we say someone is “innocent until proven guilty.” After all, look what happened to the Duke lacrosse players.

In important ways, this is wrong. We should believe, as a matter of default, what an accuser says. Ultimately, the costs of wrongly disbelieving a survivor far outweigh the costs of calling someone a rapist. Even if Jackie fabricated her account, U-Va. should have taken her word for it during the period while they endeavored to prove or disprove the accusation. This is not a legal argument about what standards we should use in the courts; it’s a moral one, about what happens outside the legal system.

The accused would have a rough period. He might be suspended from his job; friends might defriend him on Facebook. In the case of Bill Cosby, we might have to stop watching his shows, consuming his books or buying tickets to his traveling stand-up routine. But false accusations are exceedingly rare, and errors can be undone by an investigation that clears the accused, especially if it is done quickly.

The cost of disbelieving women, on the other hand, is far steeper. It signals that that women don’t matter and that they are disposable — not only to frat boys and Bill Cosby, but to us. And they face a special set of problems in having their say.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...-we-should-automatically-believe-rape-claims/


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In important ways, this is wrong. We should believe, as a matter of default, what an accuser says. Ultimately, the costs of wrongly disbelieving a survivor far outweigh the costs of calling someone a rapist.

And there you have it equal my ass these dyke feminist think their lives are worth more
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Why do people act like there's no in between?

Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean you give accusers the :camby:

Right now it doesn't matter what happens with Winston, Cosby or this frat, they'll always be connected to rape, people will always think they're guilty.

:dahell: at this shyt, at thinking a man will just be suspended from their job and lose friends only on Facebook. Accusations will get you a lot worse than that. Having your face and name on tv or in the newspaper with the word rape is gonna have a lasting effect.
 

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Refusing to believe a rape claim until that claim is proven is the basis of "innocent before proven guilty", and entirely valid as such. The "innocent before proven guilty" maxim is the foundation of fairness and equality principles which benefit and uplift a just society. By default a woman's life is no more important than a man's, and both should be treated with the same reverence until found guilty. Personal weakness on the part of the female gender has no bearing on anything.
 
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no.

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I'm not about to condemn anyone before justice does. But I'm also not about to give a guy who got a goddamn rape charge the benefit of the doubt in terms of hanging out with him. My safety >>>>>>>>>>>> inconclusive evidence.

But that's just me, and I don't even care.
 
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