ZIMBABWE PRESIDENT ROBERT MUGABE: WE WILL NOT PROSECUTE KILLERS OF WHITE FARMERS

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Reading some of these comments make me ashamed of the coli.
Another chance for racist commentary.
Murdering white people doesn't solve anything.

How long has Mugabe been in power?
What has he accomplished?
What about the corruption?
Gucci Grace Mugabe?

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Rule of law applies to everyone or this isn't a rule of law.
Again what does the actions directed at Ghadafi, a racist himself (Helter Skelter: Qaddafi's African Adventure) have to do with how Mugabe is to act towards those who live in his nation? Arguing that white supremacy has no values, no integrity, and are barbarians seems great on the surface level, but how does that help the black people in zimbabwe, how does that help the blacks of the diaspora? You get a since of glee or temporary sense of joy at the murdering of other people, what has been done for you?

We must always be careful that we don't become so consumed with hate that our existance becomes tieds to simply enjoying white suffering instead of ending white supremacy and seeing the elevation of our people.
No it actually doesn't apply to everyone. Some people have shown themselves to function above the law. Especially the nation's with mass weaponry. Ghadafi might have been a bigot but he understood that he had to work with Black Africans. What you fail to note is that in his absence and within a lot of those Arab Spring uprisings again was a lot of black genocide. The first thing they did kill Black people in Ghadafi's absence.

The United States especially will go into a sovereign nations if they fell like they have just cause and violate their sovereignty.... Or simply fly drones over them.

Again you seem to not understand that these "rules" are only meant to keep us in line. They don't play by the same rules. They use fear and intimidation tactics to get these nations to bend to their will wether thru aid, peace keeping missions or flat out sanctions. Everything comes at a price when the "give". Aid in the form of food and drugs comes with loans that can't be paid out and they demand that we buy branded drugs as opposed to generic ones and when these nations turn to China they are sanctioned.

The international courts were meant to keep rule of law and in majority of it's time had persecuted only Africans by 2014 many nations began to be in arms and try to exit as a result. Don't fool yourself into thinking that there is some kind of equality in the world and that the law rules above all. That is simply not reality.
 

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No it actually doesn't apply to everyone. Some people have shown themselves to function above the law. Especially the nation's with mass weaponry. Ghadafi might have been a bigot but he understood that he had to work with Black Africans. What you fail to note is that in his absence and within a lot of those Arab Spring uprisings again was a lot of black genocide. The first thing they did kill Black people in Ghadafi's absence.

The United States especially will go into a sovereign nations if they fell like they have just cause and violate their sovereignty.... Or simply fly drones over them.

Again you seem to not understand that these "rules" are only meant to keep us in line. They don't play by the same rules. They use fear and intimidation tactics to get these nations to bend to their will wether thru aid, peace keeping missions or flat out sanctions. Everything comes at a price when the "give". Aid in the form of food and drugs comes with loans that can't be paid out and they demand that we buy branded drugs as opposed to generic ones and when these nations turn to China they are sanctioned.

The international courts were meant to keep rule of law and in majority of it's time had persecuted only Africans by 2014 many nations began to be in arms and try to exit as a result. Don't fool yourself into thinking that there is some kind of equality in the world and that the law rules above all. That is simply not reality.

They don't want to hear the truth. They don't want to fight for anything. When our people start to rise up folks like @David_TheMan will stick up for racist white people when it comes down to it.
 

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I won't moralize the discussion considering the history of cacs and what they've done...but he's an idiot for saying that shyt in public. That kind of non-strategy is exactly why Africa is in the position it's in. Stupid ass 'leaders'.
 

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I won't moralize the discussion considering the history of cacs and what they've done...but he's an idiot for saying that shyt in public. That kind of non-strategy is exactly why Africa is in the position it's in. Stupid ass 'leaders'.

I agree somewhat. Racist white people wrote articles and had mass media cover lynchings in America so I dunno...They were and still are really loud about their kill all black people strategy for genetic survival.
 

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No it actually doesn't apply to everyone. Some people have shown themselves to function above the law. Especially the nation's with mass weaponry. Ghadafi might have been a bigot but he understood that he had to work with Black Africans. What you fail to note is that in his absence and within a lot of those Arab Spring uprisings again was a lot of black genocide. The first thing they did kill Black people in Ghadafi's absence.

The United States especially will go into a sovereign nations if they fell like they have just cause and violate their sovereignty.... Or simply fly drones over them.

Again you seem to not understand that these "rules" are only meant to keep us in line. They don't play by the same rules. They use fear and intimidation tactics to get these nations to bend to their will wether thru aid, peace keeping missions or flat out sanctions. Everything comes at a price when the "give". Aid in the form of food and drugs comes with loans that can't be paid out and they demand that we buy branded drugs as opposed to generic ones and when these nations turn to China they are sanctioned.

The international courts were meant to keep rule of law and in majority of it's time had persecuted only Africans by 2014 many nations began to be in arms and try to exit as a result. Don't fool yourself into thinking that there is some kind of equality in the world and that the law rules above all. That is simply not reality.
You seemed confused, there is no rule of law, if it does not apply to everyone.
I'm not saying the global elites act with respect to rule of law, so talking about what they do is irrelevant to any point I've made with regard to why we blacks should embrace the rule of law, and be outraged when it isn't followed by any leader over us, whether it is a black leader or a white leader.

Ghadafi's racism against blacks isn't a might, its confirmed in his own writings that he viewed blacks as subhuman, he only appelled to blacks because he was rejected by Arabs. While I equally call out the unjustness of his murder and the complete ignoring of international law in the western destruction of it, we should never forget or try to downplay what he was. He was a racist man and a bigot. I don't fail to note anything with regard to Ghadafi, fact is what you are arguing is irrelevant to Zimbabwe or to anything I've argued again.

The US violates international law , you get no arguement from me, but again its irrelevant to mugabe and zimbabwe

No the concept of "rule of law" is not meant to keep us in line, its meant to show the reason of human beings, that we aren't savages who act and move like beats of the earth, who only appeal to the doctrine of might makes right. What whites do is irrelevant to me, because Im not trying to emulate white supremacists. Everything for everyone typically has a price, what this has to do with mugabe and zimbabwe specifically you haven't said.

I have not made an appeal to the Int. Courts and I have not argued that the UN and other bodies similar to it act with respect to the "rule of law" or with respect to blacks around the world. I haven't asked for world equality because I don't believe in the concept that all men are equal, we aren't equal. I only appeal to the concept of rule of law under the concept of legal egalitarianism. That is a realistic goal, and there is no reason this can not be practiced by mugabe and implemented in zimbabwean law.

The fact of the matter is this though, resorting to tu quoque fallacies, resorting to emulation of white supremacists and their flaws, praising a man who mass murdered his own people because he killed a few whites and talks a game about kickign whites out while he allows white multi-nationals to come in and profit, with his family and himself getting a cut, isn't productive to black advancement in this world.

Being pro-black doesn't mean hating whites, to me atleast, it means wanting to uplift our race. Supporting mugabe doesn't uplift our race in my opinion, supporting a tyrant who commits mass murders of black people isn't uplifting our race in my opinion.

I understand what your are saying and where you are coming from, I just disagree with your reasoning and conclusion with regard to the incident in this thread entirely.

Have a good one though.
 

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Projection.
Sure.
They don't want to hear the truth. They don't want to fight for anything. When our people start to rise up folks like @David_TheMan will stick up for racist white people when it comes down to it.
If there is a time where there is a revolution, and there are blacks like you who support indescriminate killing of humans and simply want to lash out and instead of build our people up, you better beleive I will stand against you, never with white supremacists, but I will never sacrifice my beliefs and values for behaving like a savage under to cover of it supposedly being "pro-black"
 

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I agree somewhat. Racist white people wrote articles and had mass media cover lynchings in America so I dunno...They were and still are really loud about their kill all black people strategy for genetic survival.
Sure but you gotta be smarter than them, IMO. I don't see that here.
 

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Sure.

If there is a time where there is a revolution, and there are blacks like you who support indescriminate killing of humans and simply want to lash out and instead of build our people up, you better beleive I will stand against you, never with white supremacists, but I will never sacrifice my beliefs and values for behaving like a savage under to cover of it supposedly being "pro-black"

What the fukk are you talking about. These invaders are not innocent. They don't want black people anywhere on EARTH. How they fukk you want people to deal with that?

They don't even want black people in Africa. fukk you. Its time for them to go.
 
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