ZIMBABWE PRESIDENT ROBERT MUGABE: WE WILL NOT PROSECUTE KILLERS OF WHITE FARMERS

[David_TheMan]

Nice try.

You can keep pretending you know what I'm arguing for.

You making nonsense strawman arguments and association fallacys like black people aren't smart enough to see that.

On one hand you are happy about the results of American genocide that is the American civil war but on the other hand you are against genocide.

So obviously there are some times when you cherry pick when genocide is okay. Calling everything genocide was just lazy and stupid on your part.

You are going over the top to demonize what Mugabe did to crush a rebellion and probably avoid a more brutal, violent, bloodier civil war. America has committed worse atrocities to its own people and you don't seem to care.

You are doing this because (just like white people) you don't like Mugabe for your own political reasons, but you are feigning morality to push your political agenda across.

You can be anti Mugabe, but original point of this thread was what Mugabe's government was ignoring about white farmers in the country. You can in with a weak and stupid argument that these white farmers are all innocent because Mugabe is a bad person. That is stupid bullshyte.

Just because you don't like Mugabe doesn't make these white farmers innocent.

You told me you are arguing the stablity of the nation-state over the lives of people who fought off an oppressor. You are arguing for, whether you want to state it or not, for black led genocide by Mugabe against a group that aided him and others in casting off white rule. SMH

There is no strawman I'm making, this is what you have literally argued.
I haven't argued association fallacy either.

I'm not happy about the results of american genocide, you seem to want to lie to justify your support in this thread for genocide.
I haven't cherry picked and ever said genocide was okay, stop lying.

I don't have to go over the top to demonize Mugabe, his actions have made his reputation and shaped his legacy. You are the one literally trying to justify the atrocities he committed against his own people.

I don't like Mugabe because he is a mass murderer. If that wasnt clear to you before I hope it is clear now.

Were the white farmers given a trial, did they violate the law? Yes or No.
Fact of the matter is Mugabe like any good politician, sacrificed the life of these white people to stoke the poor thinking people under him. He kills the whites and talks tough about not wanting white in their country, and the simpletons chant and laugh and smile. The ones paying attention see he is just doing this to appease the masses, while he works with whites in multi-national corporatiosn to plunder the wealth of the nation at him and his family's benefit.

this is the truth, you don't see to want to accept the reality of the situation.

 

[David_TheMan]

I keep trying to show black people this angle of c00ning. It's basically a appeal to morality, that black people use whenever white suspremecy is challenged.

This is one of the reasons slavery lasted as long as it did. People like this would stop every single slave riot on some morality bullshyte. The catch is that this over the top appeal to morality is only focused on black people, when it comes to challenging white morality these same black people go TOTALLY MISSING.

Killing your own black people is now the first step in attacking white supremacy?
This is what you are arguing now?
You guys are lost.

 

[HopeKillCure]

You told me you are arguing the stablity of the nation-state over the lives of people who fought off an oppressor. You are arguing for, whether you want to state it or not, for black led genocide by Mugabe against a group that aided him and others in casting off white rule. SMH

There is no strawman I'm making, this is what you have literally argued.
I haven't argued association fallacy either.

I'm not happy about the results of american genocide, you seem to want to lie to justify your support in this thread for genocide.
I haven't cherry picked and ever said genocide was okay, stop lying.

I don't have to go over the top to demonize Mugabe, his actions have made his reputation and shaped his legacy. You are the one literally trying to justify the atrocities he committed against his own people.

I don't like Mugabe because he is a mass murderer. If that wasnt clear to you before I hope it is clear now.

Were the white farmers given a trial, did they violate the law? Yes or No.
Fact of the matter is Mugabe like any good politician, sacrificed the life of these white people to stoke the poor thinking people under him. He kills the whites and talks tough about not wanting white in their country, and the simpletons chant and laugh and smile. The ones paying attention see he is just doing this to appease the masses, while he works with whites in multi-national corporatiosn to plunder the wealth of the nation at him and his family's benefit.

this is the truth, you don't see to want to accept the reality of the situation.

No. I explained to you a possible reason for Mugabe's action against a possible rebellion that would have plunged the country into a more bloody, violent civil war. Mugabe's actions have happened throughout Europe,but I don't see you arguing against these white crushing many of rebellions.

You just said you were happy the the American genocide allowed slavery to move further towards abolishment. I said this already, the faction that Mugabe crushed were armed and planning a civil uprising aka a violent civil uprising. Mugabe cut this off before it cause the country even more possible deaths. You keep ignoring that.

People can go back and read your strawman and your just like whites association fallacy argument. A group that would want to reenstate some of the atrocious policies of white rulers that they just overthrew is a clear danger in any relational black persons eyes. You clearly have a political agenda against Mugabe that lines up with white people, and less with blacks. You have yet to discuss why you are so forgiving and tolerant of European, Canadian, Australian (could spend a life time on this) and American genocides.

Cecil Rhodes and the white invaders killed more than 6 million Zimbabweans ( probably closer to 60 million) but you want us to ignore this because you have a political white agenda against Mugabe. You should spend your energy to address what Cecil Rhodes and company did when you talk about Mass murder.

Mugabe's working with whites despite all of those countries freezing his accounts and all the accounts of his entire government adminstration. All his officials are banned from travel by all the majority white nations. You are talking bullshyt, Mugabe's government sanction list is insanely long

 

[HopeKillCure]

Killing your own black people is now the first step in attacking white supremacy?
This is what you are arguing now?
You guys are lost.

Talk to me about the 6-60 million zibabweans killed by whites led by Cecil Rhodes.

Talk to me about that. What are your opinions. This must make your blood boil right?

 

[David_TheMan]

No. I explained to you a possible reason for Mugabe's action against a possible rebellion that would have plunged the country into a more bloody, violent civil war. Mugabe's actions have happened throughout Europe,but I don't see you arguing against these white crushing many of rebellions.

You just said you were happy the the American genocide allowed slavery to move further towards abolishment. I said this already, the faction that Mugabe crushed were armed and planning a civil uprising aka a violent civil uprising. Mugabe cut this off before it cause the country even more possible deaths. You keep ignoring that.

People can go back and read your strawman and your just like whites association fallacy argument. A group that would want to reenstate some of the atrocious policies of white rulers that they just overthrew is a clear danger in any relational black persons eyes. You clearly have a political agenda against Mugabe that lines up with white people, and less with blacks. You have yet to discuss why you are so forgiving and tolerant of European, Canadian, Australian (could spend a life time on this) and American genocides.

Cecil Rhodes and the white invaders killed more than 6 million Zimbabweans ( probably closer to 60 million) but you want us to ignore this because you have a political white agenda against Mugabe. You should spend your energy to address what Cecil Rhodes and company did when you talk about Mass murder.

Mugabe's working with whites despite all of those countries freezing his accounts and all the accounts of his entire government adminstration. All his officials are banned from travel by all the majority white nations. You are talking bullshyt, Mugabe's government sanction list is insanely long

There are no possible reasons for acceptable application of genocide.
If the worst that could happen was that sect was seperated peacefully to have their own country, that is far better than removing those lives off the face of the earth. Far better.

I never said I was happy for US genocide, you asked me about the civil war I said I'm happy it happened for reasons as it pertains to black americans benefiting from not having constitutionally protected slavery, but other than that if the US did not exist I would be happy. That you feel the need to lie again shows me everything I need to know about you.

People who can read will know how you've sat in this thread and tried to lie to justify Mugabe murdering blacks.

I don't want you to ignore Cecil Rhodes murdering anyone, I don't want anyone to ignore King Leopold 2 of Beligum killing estimated up to 10 million in the Congo. That said neither is not condemned by me and their actions doesn't excuse Mugabe's. Again this is a poor attempt at Tu quoque fallacy.

Yes Mugabe is working with whites, who do you think he is selling those diamonds too? He selling to to Chinese and the white dimaond conglomerates. His officials banned from travel but his sons have homes in S. Africa he travels to the mid east for medical visits. Stop it man.

Mugabe is not the man to put on a pedestal

Talk to me about the 6-60 million zibabweans killed by whites lead by Cecil Rhodes.

Talk to me about that. What are your opinions. This must make your blood boil right?

tu quotque, try better next time

 

[HopeKillCure]

There are no possible reasons for acceptable application of genocide.
If the worst that could happen was that sect was seperated peacefully to have their own country, that is far better than removing those lives off the face of the earth. Far better.

I never said I was happy for US genocide, you asked me about the civil war I said I'm happy it happened for reasons as it pertains to black americans benefiting from not having constitutionally protected slavery, but other than that if the US did not exist I would be happy. That you feel the need to lie again shows me everything I need to know about you.

People who can read will know how you've sat in this thread and tried to lie to justify Mugabe murdering blacks.

I don't want you to ignore Cecil Rhodes murdering anyone, I don't want anyone to ignore King Leopold 2 of Beligum killing estimated up to 10 million in the Congo. That said neither is not condemned by me and their actions doesn't excuse Mugabe's. Again this is a poor attempt at Tu quoque fallacy.

Yes Mugabe is working with whites, who do you think he is selling those diamonds too? He selling to to Chinese and the white dimaond conglomerates. His officials banned from travel but his sons have homes in S. Africa he travels to the mid east for medical visits. Stop it man.

Mugabe is not the man to put on a pedestal

tu quotque, try better next time

Let's talk Cecil Rhodes and the 6-60 million Zimbabweans him and white invaders killed.

That's what I'm interested in discussing in this reply. What are your views on what Rhodes and the white invaders did to Zimbabweans. How do you feel about their lack of punishment the ?

How do you feel about their punishment now? Can you imagine 60 million deaths? How should we address the clear lack of white morality towards black people, how much do you have to hate someone to kill 60 million of them?

What are you views, let's discuss this, the failings of white morality and the cruelty of mass murder that kills 60 million innocent black people.

How do you feel about the murdered families land and farms and wife's and daughters being rapped and given freely to white invaders?

 

[David_TheMan]

Let's talk Cecil Rhodes and the 6-60 million Zimbabweans him and white invaders killed.

That's what I'm interested in discussing in this reply. What are your views on what Rhodes and the white invaders did to Zimbabweans. How do you feel about their lack of punishment the ?

How do you feel about their punishment now? Can you imagine 60 million deaths? How should we address the clear lack of white morality towards black people, how much do you have to hate someone to kill 60 million of them?

What are you views, let's discuss this, the failings of white morality and the cruelty of mass murder that kills 60 million innocent people

My view on Rhodes and the other exploiters of AFrica is that they are criminal and inhuman, and they should have been held accountable for the damage violence and suffering they inflected on the people of the land. That they Cecil, Leopold 2nd, dutch and british in Sa, never had to be held responsible for their actions is a human tragedy.

Yes I can imagine 60 million deaths. You address white lack of morality the same way you address black, you hold both to your moral stance, you don't abandone all pretenses of morality to be like those who have wronged you.

If you want to discuss history, and a subject different than the topic of this thread, open another thread and I'll join and we can talk.

That said this thread is about Mugabe, so I'm not going to stop talking about him in this thread.

 

[Crude Abolitionist]

Mugabe doing the right thing. Get em out!

 

[pimpineasy]

Man stop it, to call someone a cac for recognizing Mugabe murder 20,000 people. SMH
You nikkas are so fukking lost.
You are right we black people aren't stupid, we are smart enough to kno that praising a mass murder of blacks as a beacon of black power is absurd.

The people Mugabe killed were allies in the war for independence you dumb fukk. They were supporters of Joshua Nkomo. He killed the folks who fought and bled for independence just like the fukking whites they fought together to be freed from, and you disgrace their legacy by trying to claim they were fighting for white people. Some of you idiots have no shame in your lack of intellect and ignorance.

What does an american president have to do with Robert Mugabe. Stop with the bullshyt, but white people do it shyt. What America and its corrupt government does, had nothing to do with Mugabe massacring his fellow black freedom fighters.

It's sad man.
Most of these cats haven't even been to africa.
Have all kind of preconceived bs in their head.
I knew as soon as I mentioned something different from the group think. It would be either cac or c00n.
You disrespect African culture and African with scorn but want to glorify a man who murdered his own people.
Why don't you talk to Zimbabweans who left their Homeland and see.
And miss me with all that too
my wife is African and we know the deal.

 

[pimpineasy]

Yep alot of confused people out there who don't pay enough attention to their enemies. They subscribe to racist MSM that brainwashes them into being like this. shyt is all fukked up. The only thing one can do to change this is read up on History and stop listening to white people. White people have done so many atrocities. Its time for them to go.

All white people do is lie and kill.

Its time for them to go.

So you accuse everyone of being liars and killers based on their skin color and then suggest ira time for them all to die ?
And this makes sense to you?

I'm done.

 

[Crude Abolitionist]

BYE bytch

 

[pimpineasy]

BYE bytch

 

[neph27]

Life ain't fair.

It damn sure wasn't fair to the Africans that were pillaged by European Invaders. Why should it be fair to the descendents of those people?

Because the world doesn't work in medevial level eye for an eye punishments. You can't argue for state sanctioned murder.

 

[AndroidHero]

Only 12 white farmers were killed in Zimbabwe most of them just lost their farms, we could say these white farmers were collateral damage just like these civilians our government killed in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere.

 

[Crude Abolitionist]

Only 12 white farmers were killed in Zimbabwe most of them just lost their farms, we could say these white farmers were collateral damage just like these civilians our government killed in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere.

Mmmhmm.