Best Produced Hip Hop Album - 1997

[daboywonder2002]

I wanna comment but I feel I need to listen to these albums with some Beats or some HIgh quality headphones so I can really appreciate the production in these albums.

 

[JustCKing]

Warren and Dogg Pound did.
RBX and Lil Half Dead not so much. Then again, Lil Half Dead got a record deal just b/c Snoop name dropped him. I don't think he was even on Doggystyle or the Chronic.
And RBX left Death Row.
I'm not even sure what the dispute is at this point, you already acknowledged that Warren G had a leg up on Nas.

An album can't get copped if its shelved.
And Rage did drop an album on Death Row, but it was in 97 after the magic was gone. Just look at how Warren's album was received in 97. The West was dead.
If she would have dropped on Death Row in 95

You're acknowledging that not everybody associated with Snoop and Dre blew up. That was my point.

My point with Rage is she had hit song with "Afro Puffs" and she had bizz from guesting with Dre and Snoop, but no album. Albums get shelved for a reason usually due to little to no interest in the album.

 

[neph27]

ski laced uptown Saturday night. Personal classic, others are prolly objectively better, but that’s my vote

 

[Edub]

songs from the album had videos. He had hype before the album. It doesn't have to be Doggystyle hype, but people have claimed Illmatic to be one of the most anticipated Hip Hop albums ever.

Brat wasn't a plant and she never ventured into Missy Elliott territory to where she wrote for others, sang, rapped, and produced. Never went into Biggie territory either. She only collaborated with him and Bad Boy artists Total. JD was the one who changed his sound that duplicated Bad Boy, but he didn't force that on Brat. Saying this is a rewrite.

213 started when Warren G, Snoop, and Nate were in high school, but as an actual group, it wasn't really official until they put the album out. It was spoken of and talked about and they did some songs together, but it wasn't like you were seeing featuring 213 on songs or anything like that promoting them as a group. Helping Warren build a buzz does not mean that he didn't work independent of Snoop and Dre to create his own sound. It wasn't like he was trying to piggyback off those connects because it can also work against an artist.

Nobody's rewriting history. If anything you are by trying to push the narrative that Illmatic was some mega success even after it took nearly two years to go gold AFTER "Halftime", "It Ain't Hard To Tell", "The World Is Yours", and " One Love" all got videos. There's a reason Nas took a more commercial approach with IWW.

Saying illmatic was one of the most anticipated hip hop albums of all time is simply false my g. It was anticipated by those in the industry and regional cats in the know .....but of the most anticipated of all time for hip hop...not close. Saying that would put it at doggystyle level of anticipation which you yourself says it wasn't. And it was never said that warren g didn't produce or work on his own album....what was said was the aiding of Dre and snoop, his inclusion in there projects, being shouted out by them and being an affiliate of the death row machine helped him get his platinum status. Warren g himself did not create that kind of buzz that generated those results(platinum).....Dre, snoop, death row, the ATR soundtrack and warren did that all together.

And I never said illmatic was a MEGA success, what I said was it had to be considered a success to go gold 24 mos after your debut.....which it is. You sayin Nas had all this buzz and he didn't reach the heights expected despite the hype.....and I'm saying that's not true. Illmatic was a success if it weren't Columbia wouldn't have readied for it was written. And the reason for the switch to the commercial feel of iww may have been to help sales like you said (they are a business) but it was also because that is what the times required......track masters and flashy videos.....it was the era and it had changed by 96. But the switch was not because of some failure that illmatic produced....that suggestion is also false. One of the critiques of IWW was that it lacked the authenticity of illmatic. Illmatic while not a diamond level selling album was a successful debut.....and going gold with a debute within two years is a success. I'm sure he made profit vs initial label investment with that album.

Oh and da brat is a subjective narrative.....you can see that different if u like.....but that's my opinion on her. But going into missy lane doesn't mean she did what missy did.....it just means she allowed missy to craft her sound and influence her art. And missy did that for a number of artists.....

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Went with LAD. One of the best produced albums ever

 

[BmoreGorilla]

I wanna say The War Report...it perfectly captured that grimey NY era for me

but there's also Uptown Saturday Night...Ski provided the perfect landscape for those 70s blaxplotiation references

....then there's Funcrusher Plus which has a demented El-P at his finest

RZA and the Wu-elements levelled up on Forever

Quik killed Street Gospel





I can't pick

Funcrusher Plus. Havent listened to that in AGES

 

[Clive42]

Will add to the list

 

[Clive42]

South Central cartel all day everyday
Artifacts that's them

Better than anything on that list

This too

 

[Clive42]

I wanna comment but I feel I need to listen to these albums with some Beats or some HIgh quality headphones so I can really appreciate the production in these albums.

That shouldnt be necessary. You can still appreciate an album's soundscape without high quality devices.

 

[mobbinfms]

You're acknowledging that not everybody associated with Snoop and Dre blew up. That was my point.

My point with Rage is she had hit song with "Afro Puffs" and she had bizz from guesting with Dre and Snoop, but no album. Albums get shelved for a reason usually due to little to no interest in the album.

I'm actually curious now why Rage didn't drop an album earlier.

Found this...doesn't really answer the question.

“When I first got to Death Row, the lineup was going to be Dr. Dre, Snoop [Dogg], myself, and then Dogg Pound,” Lady Of Rage says in an interview for Billboard’s Ladies First: 31 Female Rappers Who Changed Hip-Hop article. “For whatever reason, Dogg Pound came out before me. I don’t know the reason, but I know that when it was time for my album Necessary Roughness to be produced, the dynasty was crumbling. Dre was leaving, Snoop was unhappy and on the verge of leaving, Suge was locked up, and [Tupac Shakur] was assassinated. And then it’s like, ‘Alright Rage, you’re up next.’

 

[daboywonder2002]

That shouldnt be necessary. You can still appreciate an album's soundscape without high quality devices.

I just wanna appreciate the production beyond just liking the beat only.

 

[THE K-MAN]

Wu Elements with Wu Tang Forever