Black teen pregnancy declined by 44%

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First off, the general idea that children born to unwed parents are doomed. Comes from an old study that has since been thoroughly debunked. And even the original study didn't make any of the claims, that became the "single parent" rhetoric common in American discourse today. The study talked about the governments roll in dismantling families, and the effects of that on the communities. Racist white folks at the time took that report and spinned it into, "black people having too many out of wedlock kids". Basically the report talked about it as a SYMPTOM and racist cacs turned it into THE CAUSE to deflect from the systemic oppression of black people.

So from the jump we are starting with a faulty premiss. Regardless of what the out of wedlock rate is, it doesn't mean what you've been told it does. When real studies are done and adjusted for income level. "Out of wedlock" kids perform at a very similar level to non"out of wedlock" kids.

Next. The number is a ratio. The rhetoric is that the irresponsible pregnancy situation is getting worse in the black community. And as you can see in the table above that's not true. Young black women are much more responsible sexually than they were in the past. The reason the ratio has gone up is that married women are waiting longer to have babies and they are having less babies. In the past a woman would get married young and basically have babies for the next 10-15 years. Now married women are more likely to have a career so they are only having one or two babies. So while unwed teen pregnancies are down, married pregnancies are WAY down. Which makes the ratio go up. Just presenting that ratio without the context behind it is what makes the number misleading.

3rd. The "out of wedlock" rate really isn't accurate if you want to assess the situation of kids growing up with one parent. The "out of wedlock" rate doesn't adjust for kids who live with both parents who aren't married, or kids who's parents got married after the birth of the child, or kids who may live with a stepparent. Neither does the rate tell you which kids actually have a healthy relationship with both parents. A kid in a home where the parents are abusive to each other and the kid, is not better off than a kid born to a loving single parent with a good support system. So the "out of wedlock" rate really tells you nothing about the plight of the kids. The only real conclusions you can draw from the number are marriage trends.

Finally. The rhetoric is that the "out of wedlock" rate is harming communities, does not agree with the actual numbers. As the "out of wedlock rate" has risen in the black community, educational and economic achievement has also risen. If the "out of wedlock" rate was such a detriment to the community, then we would see young people achieving less as that ratio rises. The opposite is happening.


So as an intelligent person who now has more context/info. You need to ask yourself "why was I misled?" "why would a person manipulate the numbers and facts to paint a negative picture of young black women and communities?"

Think about it

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As well as the study that black father's spend more time with their children than other race fathers.
 

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This has been the case for years.

Unwed teen pregnancies are way down compared to the past. Yet idiots still wanna parade the "out of wedlock" "black single mother" rhetoric.

I expect that kinda talk from racist cac types, but it's crazy how many black people will repeat that nonsense, without actually understanding what's happening:smh:
There was an article about US obesity rates and how blk women are slandered in the US according to ethnic differences in bmi.

The sad thing is some black people are so hurt due to being rejected, that they become agents and spread the lies put out there about our own race because it feeds their agenda to paint the opposite sex has horrible and the sole reason they are single/lonely, rather than taking responsibility for their own romantic shortcomings.

Will see if I can find the article. But yeah what ur saying is yet another example of blks spreading propaganda about themselves.
"Yeah dem single moms ain't shyt!" "It's so many of em!"

Nope. Never was. Just Reagan Era "welfare queen" tropes that certain people in our race adopted to further their own agendas namely to dismiss blk women in favor of other races of women.

Same for myths that there are more blk men in jail than in college and the idea that 70% of blk women are single.

When u hurt and bitter you will repeat any lie to discredit those who didn't want you.

Hell we don't even need CACs anymore...
 

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There's quite a bit of issue with correlation and causation both in the studies you cited and in your explanations.
Yes. Correlation does not equal causation.

But the rhetoric is that unwed children is the CAUSE of the problems, with no real evidence to prove that. Therefore my explanation also makes that illogical leap.

In reality these studies without any real demonstrable causation are usualy worthless.

I'm not using the studies to say that out of wedlock is a good thing, I'm using them to show what you thought you understood about "out of wedlock" is far from the truth.



Economic and educational achievement will rise regardless of the "out-of-wedlock" rate, that doesn't mean it isn't a massive hindrance.
So if it is a massive hindrance. Where would it be reflected?


Also can you link to the studies you mention?
Which one specifically?
 

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Now think critically. Think about the types of dudes this misinformation would have been used by. Think about that other poster's younger brother who got knocked out for being a c00n. Dudes and chicks like that love to believe and spread lies about the opposite sex to justify their own inability to meet, date and have normal interactions with the opposite sex.

Rejects are sleeper agents turned c00ns in our community who do the enemy's work for them.
 

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Now think critically. Think about the types of dudes this misinformation would have been used by. Think about that other poster's younger brother who got knocked out for being a c00n. Dudes and chicks like that love to believe and spread lies about the opposite sex to justify their own inability to meet, date and have normal interactions with the opposite sex.

Rejects are sleeper agents turned c00ns in our community who do the enemy's work for them.

If I hadn't repped you already for your previous post I would have repped this one.

And as marriage rates continue to fall and even more white women choose "non traditional families" - out of wedlock births
As usual the shyt will be worthy of applause for them while still worthy of disdain among professional black women.

Or *insert here anything that's great and new and righteous when white folks do it but basically criminal when black folks do it*
 

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If I hadn't repped you already for your previous post I would have repped this one.

And as marriage rates continue to fall and even more white women choose "non traditional families" - out of wedlock births
As usual the shyt will be worthy of applause for them while still worthy of disdain among professional black women.

Or *insert here anything that's great and new and righteous when white folks do it but basically criminal when black folks do it*
Oh that train is never late! Suddenly blk women will be lambasted for being too uptight to have children outta wedlock like "free-spirited" white chicks.

The more nefarious plan here that most don't see is how this is merely a culling of the world's population through reduction of birth rates in ALL races.

Poor to middle class whites, blacks, Asians (see divorce and negative birth rates in Japan, and one child policy in China)...

The most powerful players in the world don't care if the races fight each other and kill one another to extinction. In fact they're counting on it and have orchestrated events in history to this end. Why? Because everybody else (about 80% of world population) gotta go so the top 10% richest people in the world can have earth and its resources as their playground.
Race wars, religious conflict, national wars, organized crime, civil wars, disease, are all tools used to cull the world of undesirables and we don't even see it.

Birth control, sterilization, abortion, feminism and misogyny, technological alienation are just additional tools to ensure human sheeple stop coming together to make babies or resource draining entities.
 

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No, just funny it's never talked about.

Just like alotta people don't know Phoenix Arizona in the 2000s was getting 200+ homicides a year, manly due to ghetto ass mexicans, but it was swept under the rug :mjpls:
Let a all blacc city get 200+ homicides, it will get a reputation as one of the most dangerous and undesrable cities in the nation in a heart beat


@BrothaZay talking real shyt?!

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This is good, but the pendulum is swinging too far too fast. People opting out of marriage and kids in general(at older ages) where the end result is a path towards a cultural extinction Japanese style. The current form of western consumerist culture/lifestyle is not sustainable biologically. New ways of living need to be adopted soon.
 

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:blessed:This been known breh, this and black on black crime, but don't tell these c00ns and cacs that. :pachaha:As soon as they say show me numbers and you do, all of sudden numbers don't matter:mjpls:
 

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Yes. Correlation does not equal causation.

But the rhetoric is that unwed children is the CAUSE of the problems, with no real evidence to prove that. Therefore my explanation also makes that illogical leap.

In reality these studies without any real demonstrable causation are usualy worthless.

I'm not using the studies to say that out of wedlock is a good thing, I'm using them to show what you thought you understood about "out of wedlock" is far from the truth.




So if it is a massive hindrance. Where would it be reflected?



Which one specifically?
Just the first two you mentioned.
And the hindrance is hard to quantify. It shows in the economic and educational disparities between Blacks and Whites/East Asians (there are other issues that fit in to this category too).
 

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Wow.

Black crime rate decreasing to the lowest numbers in 20 years...
Black business rates increasing by 60% since 2004...
Black enrollment rates increasing
Black college graduation rates increasing
The number of blacks going to jail is decreasing
Black male life expectancy is increasing
Black suicide rates decreasing
And now black teen pregnancy has declined by 44%
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All while
White birth rates are decreasing globally
white teen pregnancy rates are seemingly increasing
white women's life expectancy rates are decreasing...
white suicide rates increasing
:wow:

It seems what people have been speculating about whites becoming the minority in America by 2050 wasn't bullshyt.

The definition of who is considered white will change and things will probably stay the same. We've been in this boat before, word to the Irish and Italians.
 

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The definition of who is considered white will change and things will probably stay the same. We've been in this boat before, word to the Irish and Italians.

Yeah, and we know the new "white people" probably be bilingual :mjpls:

In the meantime, less teenage births is the result of a less religious society.
 

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There is some philosophical irony to the people who go an entire life without trying to produce offspring though. Its the fact that they go their entire life utilizing the resources of the society without creating more humans to help contribute back into creating more resources. Im sure there's a rap/hip hop song in there somewhere.
 

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Just the first two you mentioned.
And the hindrance is hard to quantify. It shows in the economic and educational disparities between Blacks and Whites/East Asians (there are other issues that fit in to this category too).
If the hindrance is hard to quantify, then it must not be very "massive" as you stated.

And why would you compare black people to whites and East Asians? What makes you make that comparison?
 
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