Boston adds 2nd round pick to finalize the Kyrie Irving trade

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Yeah that's all they will need when they go up against one of 28 teams in the league.

On most nights...

Not in a series against GS

Of course not...



Cleveland will finally win games when Lebron doesn't play.


Think about it....cavs went 0-8 when Lebron DNP.If they just go 5-3 this season when LBJ sits,that's 5 more wins.Cleveland having a better roster should also increase their win total another 6-8 games.The cavs could easily win 60-64 games
 
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The beauty about this cavs team is that with LBJ,IT,KL,and DR,all they'll need is 2 guys to be on to win basketball games on most nights.
Tbh I might bring Love off the bench and start Crowder at the 4. Cavs main problem is that they have trouble scoring when Lebron isn't on the floor
 

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Tbh I might bring Love off the bench and start Crowder at the 4. Cavs main problem is that they have trouble scoring when Lebron isn't on the floor

Nah....last thing you want is Lebron playing extended minutes at PF.And with the additions of Crowder/Rose,the cavs have plenty of bench scoring.
 
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Nah....last thing you want is Lebron playing extended minutes at PF.And with the additions of Crowder/Rose,the cavs have plenty of bench scoring.
I honestly think Love is more effective when someone else is running the offense. Love can get you 20 off the bench. I don't think you can get that with Rose or Crowder
 
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Come on man...

1.Lebron always destroys boston.This season will be no different.

2.Love killed boston in the playofts:22.6/12.4/2.6/1.4/1.2/48%/53%/87%....and played good defense on top of it.

3.Yes,Lebron is the primary ball handler.But Thomas will still have a top 15 usage rate and get 18-20 shots per game.Infact,IT will get easier shots because of Lebron.

4.Rose might have lost a half step,but he still gets to the basket whenever he wants,and can light up any pg.

Act like Rose didn't drop 25/7 on westbrook


Act like Rose didn't drop 30/7/4 on westbrook


Act like Rose didn't drop 28 on GS


Rose had another torn meniscus surgery again last season. I would put a question mark on what contribution he will give this season. He also will most likely be used as a two guard so he is going to be matched up with two guards instead of point guards that will force him to shoot and cut off his drive to the lane. Love will be matched up against Morris who rebounds decently this time instead of Amir Johnson or Olnyk. I don't think Thomas will be that impactful as an off ball player. He really came into his own last season and to ask him to play off ball will limit him and expose him even more to other team's defenses that will push or bump him around making that lineup a flaw when he is taken out of plays.
 

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Man see shyt like this is why I'ma miss Bron when he finally does retire and leave the sport for good.:mjcry:

That nikka defleceting bruh. He forgot to mention he the reason why that superstar demanded a trade because he wanna be puff all in the window
 

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Come on man...

1.Lebron always destroys boston.This season will be no different.

2.Love killed boston in the playofts:22.6/12.4/2.6/1.4/1.2/48%/53%/87%....and played good defense on top of it.

3.Yes,Lebron is the primary ball handler.But Thomas will still have a top 15 usage rate and get 18-20 shots per game.Infact,IT will get easier shots because of Lebron.

4.Rose might have lost a half step,but he still gets to the basket whenever he wants,and can light up any pg.

Act like Rose didn't drop 25/7 on westbrook



Act like Rose didn't drop 30/7/4 on westbrook


Act like Rose didn't drop 28 on GS


Rose was top tier and top3- 5 finisher at the rim last year.. (not bad for someone who has lost a step.. Considering you still have to get to the rim to finish there) :russ::russ:

He also averaged his best shooting percentage from mid range since his map year I think at just under 50% :ohhh:

Dont know why people think that rose can't guard kyrie.. Well it works both ways

Rose has showed out and had some of his best performances head to head against kyrie ( that's since the injuries) :gucci::mjlol::yeshrug:

He also had 2 of his best games last year against It and Kemba..so for a guy who is a step slow Coz of injuries he sure doing good keeping up with some of the fastest in the game

:stopitslime::hhh:
 

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Rose had another torn meniscus surgery again last season. I would put a question mark on what contribution he will give this season. He also will most likely be used as a two guard so he is going to be matched up with two guards instead of point guards that will force him to shoot and cut off his drive to the lane. Love will be matched up against Morris who rebounds decently this time instead of Amir Johnson or Olnyk. I don't think Thomas will be that impactful as an off ball player. He really came into his own last season and to ask him to play off ball will limit him and expose him even more to other team's defenses that will push or bump him around making that lineup a flaw when he is taken out of plays.

Rose is coming off the bench so he will have less wear and tear. Between Shump, Smith, Korver, and even Crowder they don't really need Rose to play out of position.

Mook isn't that good of a rebounder, he's a tweener who is a better 3 than 4. He'll be an improvement of over Olnyk and Amir, but it won't be through rebounding.

Important numbers for IT would be catch and shoot and this is where Irving is better:
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However, IT was the better more efficient scorer and he made more free throws than Irving took last year, despite only play 4 more games.
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Furthermore, Korver's 3P% went from .409 to.485 after being traded to the Cavs and LeBron's ability to get teammates better shots is well documented. On ball, LeBron and Irving took turns on offense and there's no reason to believe LeBron and IT won't. Him being worse in ISO may give Love more touches via pick and roll/pop, which would be better for the team anyway.

IT's biggest concern is his hip, but it's not like Irving has a clean bill of health himself...
 

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On most nights...



Of course not...



Cleveland will finally win games when Lebron doesn't play.


Think about it....cavs went 0-8 when Lebron DNP.If they just go 5-3 this season when LBJ sits,that's 5 more wins.Cleveland having a better roster should also increase their win total another 6-8 games.The cavs could easily win 60-64 games
The lineup issues will be a problem

Rose already wants to start and it is trying to get a max after being the best player on a number 1 seed last year
 

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Rose is not a good shooter, so you cut off his drive to the lane and force him to shoot. He does not possess the same speed or quickness after those knee injuries. Thomas is not going to be the primary ball handler in the lineup playing with Lebron and Rose, so you can push him around because of his size to make him feel uncomfortable when trying to get open playing off ball. Love would be a problem with his marksmen shooting, but he will give up what he gives back. Crowder is a streaker 3 point shooter who can't create on his own. Lebron is the only guy that will be able to get his, but limiting the other guys will put pressure on him to perform because of the lack of three point shooting in this lineup. Hopefully Brad Stevens could see these issues and exploit them. He knows I.T's and Crowder's weaknesses.


:dahell: rose is still one of the fastest players on the court
 

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Kyrie hasn't proved hes a leader. Boston has Hayward, Horford who i dont trust and traded away Bradley lol 4 Seed at best.
 
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