If you're just going to say "fukc that" to every explaination, then what are you looking for.
If all you wanted say was "I dislike the Pope" then keep it simple.
The Catholic Church is the foundation of the Western World. I imagine you also think that ain't shyt, which is fine. It's a pretty big deal, tho. Your Internet is a product of the West. Pretty much everything you have and everything you ARE comes out of that.
So he's the 2015 leader of the organization that birthed the modern world. No big whoop.
Breh...see, i'm not reading all this shyt. the correct response from you would have been to not respond at all. I already made very clear what my question was in this thread and then a couple pseudo-intellectuals such as yourself have to come in here over-analyzing.
Yeah, he the most forward thinking one I've seen in my lifetime.I'm in no way, shape or form religious but dude is pretty progressive, considering draconian Catholic stances and his comments on some things. A far different perspective from the previous pope.
who told you this
Google Papal Infallibility, that's what people believe he is. The voice of God and all that bullshyt.creh i am a theology school dropout, im well aware of papal infallibility, but just for your own learning purposes, im gonna google it and report back what i findGoogle Papal Infallibility, that's what people believe he is. The voice of God and all that bullshyt.
In July 2005 Pope Benedict XVI stated during an impromptu address to priests in Aosta that: "The Pope is not an oracle; he is infallible in very rare situations, as we know."[16] Pope John XXIII once remarked: "I am only infallible if I speak infallibly but I shall never do that, so I am not infallible."[17] A doctrine proposed by a pope as his own opinion, not solemnly proclaimed as a doctrine of the Church, may be rejected as false, even if it is on a matter of faith and morals, and even more any view he expresses on other matters. A well-known example of a personal opinion on a matter of faith and morals that was taught by a pope but rejected by the Church is the view that Pope John XXII expressed on when the dead can reach the beatific vision.[18] The limitation on the pope's infallibility "on other matters" is frequently illustrated by Cardinal James Gibbons's recounting how the pope mistakenly called him Jibbons.[19][20][21][22][23]
You taking it wrong.Google Papal Infallibility, that's what people believe he is. The voice of God and all that bullshyt.
what is every explanation that i've said fukk that to? i specifically went in on dudes that were trying to call me ignorant like they were above me and they did not answer the question which is: why are people bowing down like this guy is jesus christ himself.
Sometimes you nikkas try WAY too hard to be militant on here
I ain't saying you gotta worship dude like religious cacs do......but this thread is as try-hard as they come
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What makes a pope anymore special than any other human tho? Yeah he decides what the church does, but why do we make as if he's so holy and a prophet or something? Honest question.
creh i am a theology school dropout, im well aware of papal infallibility, but just for your own learning purposes, im gonna google it and report back what i find
ok then, decidedly NOT god on earth
The Catholic Church does not teach that the pope is infallible in everything he says; official invocation of papal infallibility is – apart from canonizations of saints – extremely rare.
Catholic theologians agree that both Pope Pius IX's 1854 definition of the dogma of the Immaculate Conception of Mary and Pope Pius XII's 1950 definition of the dogma of the Assumption of Mary are instances of papal infallibility, a fact confirmed by the Church's magisterium.[69] However, theologians disagree about what other documents qualify.
Regarding historical papal documents, Catholic theologian and church historian Klaus Schatz made a thorough study, published in 1985, that identified the following list of ex cathedra documents (see Creative Fidelity: Weighing and Interpreting Documents of the Magisterium, by Francis A. Sullivan, chapter 6):
There is no complete list of papal statements considered infallible. A 1998 commentary on Ad Tuendam Fidem issued by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith published on L'Osservatore Romano in July 1998[71] listed a number of instances of infallible pronouncements by popes and by ecumenical councils, but explicitly stated (at no. 11) that this was not meant to be a complete list.
- Tome to Flavian, Pope Leo I, 449, on the two natures in Christ, received by the Council of Chalcedon;
- Letter of Pope Agatho, 680, on the two wills of Christ, received by the Third Council of Constantinople;
- Benedictus Deus, Pope Benedict XII, 1336, on the beatific vision of the just after death rather than only just prior to final judgment;[70]
- Cum occasione, Pope Innocent X, 1653, condemning five propositions of Jansen as heretical;
- Auctorem fidei, Pope Pius VI, 1794, condemning seven Jansenist propositions of the Synod of Pistoia as heretical;
- Ineffabilis Deus, Pope Pius IX, 1854, defining the Immaculate Conception;
- Munificentissimus Deus, Pope Pius XII, 1950, defining the Assumption of Mary.
One of the documents mentioned is Pope John Paul II's apostolic letter Ordinatio Sacerdotalis on reserving priestly ordination to men alone,[72] which the Congregation earlier stated to be infallible, although not taught ex cathedra (i.e., although not a teaching of theextraordinary magisterium), clarifying that the content of this letter has been taught infallibly by the ordinary and universal magisterium.[73] This was confirmed in a commentary by the same Congregation[71] and in commentaries by Cardinals Joseph Ratzinger[74] andTarcisio Bertone.[75] Many eminent theologians dispute that this is truly infallible, including Nicholas Lash, an ex-priest and Emeritus Professor of Divinity at the University of Cambridge.[76] The Catholic Theological Society of America in a report, ‘Tradition and the Ordination of Women’, concluded that Ordinatio Sacerdotalis "is mistaken with regard to its claims on the authority of this teaching and its grounds in Tradition" Theologians Assess ‘Ordinatio Sacerdotalis’
As well as popes, ecumenical councils have made pronouncements that the Church considers infallible.
) but to show that they were actually said AND people actually believing it. It doesn't surprise me that a newer pope reneges on something a previous pope fukked up. The one in power now seems to be doing that shyt weekly.