Can someone explain to me who the fuk the pope is

CarbonBraddock

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If you're just going to say "fukc that" to every explaination, then what are you looking for.

If all you wanted say was "I dislike the Pope" then keep it simple.

The Catholic Church is the foundation of the Western World. I imagine you also think that ain't shyt, which is fine. It's a pretty big deal, tho. Your Internet is a product of the West. Pretty much everything you have and everything you ARE comes out of that.

So he's the 2015 leader of the organization that birthed the modern world. No big whoop.

what is every explanation that i've said fukk that to? i specifically went in on dudes that were trying to call me ignorant like they were above me and they did not answer the question which is: why are people bowing down like this guy is jesus christ himself.
 

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see, i'm not reading all this shyt. the correct response from you would have been to not respond at all. I already made very clear what my question was in this thread and then a couple pseudo-intellectuals such as yourself have to come in here over-analyzing.
Breh...

We are on a forum... we aren't playing 2k...I'm not trying to WIN. I'm just enjoying debate & discussion. The fukk would I just grab my ball and go home for?

This shyt is fun for me. You're trying to WIN the Coli or something, breh? :heh:
 

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I'm in no way, shape or form religious but dude is pretty progressive, considering draconian Catholic stances and his comments on some things. A far different perspective from the previous pope.
Yeah, he the most forward thinking one I've seen in my lifetime.
 

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The pope is the worlds most famous pedophile, he's also the leader of the worlds largest pedophile ring known to man.
 

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:stopitslime: Google Papal Infallibility, that's what people believe he is. The voice of God and all that bullshyt.
creh i am a theology school dropout, im well aware of papal infallibility, but just for your own learning purposes, im gonna google it and report back what i find

In July 2005 Pope Benedict XVI stated during an impromptu address to priests in Aosta that: "The Pope is not an oracle; he is infallible in very rare situations, as we know."[16] Pope John XXIII once remarked: "I am only infallible if I speak infallibly but I shall never do that, so I am not infallible."[17] A doctrine proposed by a pope as his own opinion, not solemnly proclaimed as a doctrine of the Church, may be rejected as false, even if it is on a matter of faith and morals, and even more any view he expresses on other matters. A well-known example of a personal opinion on a matter of faith and morals that was taught by a pope but rejected by the Church is the view that Pope John XXII expressed on when the dead can reach the beatific vision.[18] The limitation on the pope's infallibility "on other matters" is frequently illustrated by Cardinal James Gibbons's recounting how the pope mistakenly called him Jibbons.[19][20][21][22][23]

ok then, decidedly NOT god on earth
 

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:stopitslime: Google Papal Infallibility, that's what people believe he is. The voice of God and all that bullshyt.
You taking it wrong.

Peter a disciple of Jesus, was the 1st Pope. So all Popes really go back to being aligned to him, not God. All that Papal Infallibility means that whomever is the pope, has the power to make decisions for the "Church" as a whole. His decisions lead the church. Basically he has the final judgement on all decisions related to that religion moving forward, as the times change.


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This doesn't align with me believing every man is able to make his own decisions related to God. I don't need to speak my sins to a priest and don't need a Pope leading me or my children. God gave everyone choice and free will, so we can figure it out on our own.
 
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what is every explanation that i've said fukk that to? i specifically went in on dudes that were trying to call me ignorant like they were above me and they did not answer the question which is: why are people bowing down like this guy is jesus christ himself.

Cause he runs the Catholic Church which is the oldest, most prestigious, organization on Earth.

What is your response to the answer I just gave?
 

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Oblviously the Pope is the top dawg in the largest Christian Sect in the World, in the Vatican which is essentially it's own city-state and one of oldest institutions in the world and he is the moral compass of an obviously very flawed organization. I will say this objectively, this particular Pope is pretty liberal as far as Pope's go.
 

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Sometimes you nikkas try WAY too hard to be militant on here

I ain't saying you gotta worship dude like religious cacs do......but this thread is as try-hard as they come

Who is the pope.....:mjlol:

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What makes a pope anymore special than any other human tho? Yeah he decides what the church does, but why do we make as if he's so holy and a prophet or something? Honest question.

If you're not a Catholic, then nothing makes him special.
If you are a Catholic, then you're not really in the habit of questioning things like, "What makes him special."

That's the best answer you're gonna get.

I will say that, as far as popes go, this one is easily my favorite because he's not on that dogmatic bullshyt. Very progressive, seems to be trying to bring Catholics into the 21st century, which was long overdue.
 

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creh i am a theology school dropout, im well aware of papal infallibility, but just for your own learning purposes, im gonna google it and report back what i find



ok then, decidedly NOT god on earth

The Pope Claims to be God on Earth | Papal Infallibility -- here's to the claim that papacy made about "God of Earth"

and a quote from the wiki you pulled up:

The Catholic Church does not teach that the pope is infallible in everything he says; official invocation of papal infallibility is – apart from canonizations of saints – extremely rare.

Catholic theologians agree that both Pope Pius IX's 1854 definition of the dogma of the Immaculate Conception of Mary and Pope Pius XII's 1950 definition of the dogma of the Assumption of Mary are instances of papal infallibility, a fact confirmed by the Church's magisterium.[69] However, theologians disagree about what other documents qualify.

Regarding historical papal documents, Catholic theologian and church historian Klaus Schatz made a thorough study, published in 1985, that identified the following list of ex cathedra documents (see Creative Fidelity: Weighing and Interpreting Documents of the Magisterium, by Francis A. Sullivan, chapter 6):

  1. Tome to Flavian, Pope Leo I, 449, on the two natures in Christ, received by the Council of Chalcedon;
  2. Letter of Pope Agatho, 680, on the two wills of Christ, received by the Third Council of Constantinople;
  3. Benedictus Deus, Pope Benedict XII, 1336, on the beatific vision of the just after death rather than only just prior to final judgment;[70]
  4. Cum occasione, Pope Innocent X, 1653, condemning five propositions of Jansen as heretical;
  5. Auctorem fidei, Pope Pius VI, 1794, condemning seven Jansenist propositions of the Synod of Pistoia as heretical;
  6. Ineffabilis Deus, Pope Pius IX, 1854, defining the Immaculate Conception;
  7. Munificentissimus Deus, Pope Pius XII, 1950, defining the Assumption of Mary.
There is no complete list of papal statements considered infallible. A 1998 commentary on Ad Tuendam Fidem issued by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith published on L'Osservatore Romano in July 1998[71] listed a number of instances of infallible pronouncements by popes and by ecumenical councils, but explicitly stated (at no. 11) that this was not meant to be a complete list.

One of the documents mentioned is Pope John Paul II's apostolic letter Ordinatio Sacerdotalis on reserving priestly ordination to men alone,[72] which the Congregation earlier stated to be infallible, although not taught ex cathedra (i.e., although not a teaching of theextraordinary magisterium), clarifying that the content of this letter has been taught infallibly by the ordinary and universal magisterium.[73] This was confirmed in a commentary by the same Congregation[71] and in commentaries by Cardinals Joseph Ratzinger[74] andTarcisio Bertone.[75] Many eminent theologians dispute that this is truly infallible, including Nicholas Lash, an ex-priest and Emeritus Professor of Divinity at the University of Cambridge.[76] The Catholic Theological Society of America in a report, ‘Tradition and the Ordination of Women’, concluded that Ordinatio Sacerdotalis "is mistaken with regard to its claims on the authority of this teaching and its grounds in Tradition" Theologians Assess ‘Ordinatio Sacerdotalis’

As well as popes, ecumenical councils have made pronouncements that the Church considers infallible.

My assertion isn't to prove any of this shyt to be accurate (:bryan:) but to show that they were actually said AND people actually believing it. It doesn't surprise me that a newer pope reneges on something a previous pope fukked up. The one in power now seems to be doing that shyt weekly.
 
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