China to invest 30 billion USD in Haiti

[Bawon Samedi]

Exactly I do not understand his position. He is made China made a move into Haiti and not AA's? African Americans here are dealing with hell. Would I want more of them to be infleuential in Haiti? Of course but that is not going to happen anytime soon. Then he said the US is a natural ally of Haiti. Say that to any Haitian they will rock him to sleep. And he wants bygones to be bygones. But when I presented the crimes the US has done to Haiti he ignores it and says "well that is the cost of doing business." He is a clown and worshipper of American white supremacy. Why should Haiti deal with the US when they have shown time and time again they will burn Haiti? He isn't able to come up with a good reason because he is ignorant. Yeah the US is a nation you can trust after sponsoring coups, death squads and civil wars in your country.

More importantly he acts like AAs needs the USA permission to do business in Haiti or any country. He acts like China doing business in Haiti means that we somehow lost Haiti. This guy likes exposing himself.

There is a reason why the Caribbean posters disown him and why he RARELY reps Jamaica[only a very few times when he was to be a special fairy].

 

[get these nets]

4d,
i get the feeling that you are trolling, but in caste you aren't...I'll concede the obvious point about political instability being part of the fabric of Haiti. That's a fact. There was a poster* that was sold in Haitian stores/restaurants around the time of the bicentennial that listed all the Haitian leaders and the lengths of their terms from 1804-2004. It was crazy to see the amount of leaders and their varying lengths of terms, but any student of Haitian history knows that coup d'etat is how power has gotten transferred in Haiti...beginning with Dessalines.
This was true even in the years before USA formally acknowledged Haiti's existence.

The USA has and will act in her own interests when it comes to foreign affairs, and history has shown that they have staged coups, invaded countries under false pretenses, and other examples of meddling all over the world.

The American govt. meddling in Haiti is well documented including 2-3 occupations. That's not even up for debate.During the Cold War it was justified as combating the spread of communism....especially with Cuba being where it is.

You have no leg to stand on when you suggest that more of the same....American intervention....would benefit Haiti. How has it benefited Haiti thus far?

If you're not trolling, I'd like for you to respond.

*If anyone can find and post that poster of leaders, I'd appreciate it.

 

[BigMan]

4d,
i get the feeling that you are trolling, but in caste you aren't...I'll concede the obvious point about political instability being part of the fabric of Haiti. That's a fact. There was a poster* that was sold in Haitian stores/restaurants around the time of the bicentennial that listed all the Haitian leaders and the lengths of their terms from 1804-2004. It was crazy to see the amount of leaders and their varying lengths of terms, but any student of Haitian history knows that coup d'etat is how power has gotten transferred in Haiti...beginning with Dessalines.
This was true even in the years before USA formally acknowledged Haiti's existence.

The USA has and will act in her own interests when it comes to foreign affairs, and history has shown that they have staged coups, invaded countries under false pretenses, and other examples of meddling all over the world.

The American govt. meddling in Haiti is well documented including 2-3 occupations. That's not even up for debate.During the Cold War it was justified as combating the spread of communism....especially with Cuba being where it is.

You have no leg to stand on when you suggest that more of the same....American intervention....would benefit Haiti. How has it benefited Haiti thus far?

If you're not trolling, I'd like for you to respond.

*If anyone can find and post that poster of leaders, I'd appreciate it.

lmao i have this poster at my mom's house

 

[ZoeGod]

4d,
i get the feeling that you are trolling, but in caste you aren't...I'll concede the obvious point about political instability being part of the fabric of Haiti. That's a fact. There was a poster* that was sold in Haitian stores/restaurants around the time of the bicentennial that listed all the Haitian leaders and the lengths of their terms from 1804-2004. It was crazy to see the amount of leaders and their varying lengths of terms, but any student of Haitian history knows that coup d'etat is how power has gotten transferred in Haiti...beginning with Dessalines.
This was true even in the years before USA formally acknowledged Haiti's existence.

The USA has and will act in her own interests when it comes to foreign affairs, and history has shown that they have staged coups, invaded countries under false pretenses, and other examples of meddling all over the world.

The American govt. meddling in Haiti is well documented including 2-3 occupations. That's not even up for debate.During the Cold War it was justified as combating the spread of communism....especially with Cuba being where it is.

You have no leg to stand on when you suggest that more of the same....American intervention....would benefit Haiti. How has it benefited Haiti thus far?

If you're not trolling, I'd like for you to respond.

*If anyone can find and post that poster of leaders, I'd appreciate it.

Exactly the US has not showed itself as a trustful actor in Haiti and yet more of the same? For what? China at least wont launch coups or use political destabilization to get what they want. The US had their chance and its too late.

 

[DrBanneker]

US natural ally of Haiti?

A good 25-50% of Haiti's history can be encapsulated by the speech on Haiti by Frederick Douglass in 1893 after he was minister there LINK

Best excerpt:

"The fault is not with the ignorant many, but with the educated and ambitious few. Too proud to work, and not disposed to go into commerce, they make politics a business of their country. Governed neither by love nor mercy for their country, they care not into what depths she may be plunged. No president, however virtuous, wise and patriotic, ever suits them when they themselves happen to be out of power. I wish I could say that these are the only conspirators against the peace of Haiti, but I cannot. They have allies in the United States. Recent developments have shown that even a former United States Minister, resident and Consul General to that country has considered against the present government of Haiti. It so happens that we have men in this country who, to accomplish their personal and selfish ends, will fan the flame of passion between the factions in Haiti and will otherwise assist in setting revolutions afoot. To their shame be it spoken, men in high American quarters have boasted to me of their ability to start a revolution in Haiti at pleasure. They have only to raise sufficient money, they say, with which to arm and otherwise equip the malcontents, of either faction, to effect their object."

 

[DrBanneker]

I am for this deal if it helps give Haiti the infrastructure it needs. They get extra points if it is better than infrastructure in the DR.

If I was in government, not only would I have local content requirements but a timeline for the development and use of local suppliers to build up industry. Unfortunately it would probably be the same connected fiends who own those companies.

 

[Cadillac]

Dominicans been sneaking into the other Caribbean countries for years

what countries do they sneak into the most?

 

[Cadillac]

Don't even get me started on the Puerto Rican and Dominican beef.

so its Puerto rico they mostly be moving into

 

[RedCloakBlackWraithe]

"Colonized by the white man? Simple. Just colonize blacks!" - China

And we all know how these motherfukkers feel about us and treat us here and in their own country.

Get all these goddamn Chinese the fukk out of Haiti and Africa

hear, hear!

 

[Bawon Samedi]

so its Puerto rico they mostly be moving into

Dominican Immigrants Risk Death at Sea, Only to Find Hardship on a New Shore

Yes.

 

[Cadillac]

Dominican Immigrants Risk Death at Sea, Only to Find Hardship on a New Shore

Yes.

damn, never even knew dominicans talked shyt that they dont be moving to other countries, nor this.

but where I live we dont get caribbeans or at all so I wouldnt know shyt

just found it interesting.

anyways back to being on topic

 

[BigMan]

damn, never even knew dominicans talked shyt that they dont be moving to other countries, nor this.

but where I live we dont get caribbeans or at all so I wouldnt know shyt

just found it interesting.

anyways back to being on topic

Also the Virgin Islands and the ABC islands

 

[---]

you don't know what the fukk you're talking about Jamaica hasn't exported Bauxite in years

I know this concept is hard for you to understand. Explain to me even though they did shut down in 2009 but because of the global shut down that selling the rights to a rare earth mineral that was an still will be their leading export is a good idea. Go ahead and catalogue all the pros of doing so, I'll wait.

 

[ZoeGod]

You're asking for an emotional solution.

I'm telling you the practical one.

No your solution is more of the same. Haiti is simply looking at better options because the US isn't a trust worthy partner the last 200 years. Like I said before y'all had your chance but it's time for us to move on. Go home Yankee.

 

[NSSVO]

CHINA LEAVE THEM ALONE shyt.