Cuban sonic attacks were probably just mass hysteria due to stress

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The article spends a long time discussing why all other options have been ruled out as incredibly unlikely or simply impossible scientifically, and then settles into the most obvious, easiest one:

The Real Story Behind the Havana Embassy Mystery

If you view what happened to the diplomats in Havana as an “attack,” you must look for something capable of producing such an assault. It would have to emit a sound that varied widely from listener to listener. It would have to strike only people who worked at the embassy. It would have to assail them wherever they happened to be, whether in their homes or staying at a hotel. It would have to produce a wide range of symptoms that seemed to bear no relation to one another. And it would have to start off small, with one or two victims, before spreading rapidly to everyone in the group.

As it happens, there is and always has been one mechanism that produces precisely this effect in humans. Today it’s referred to in the medical literature as conversion disorder—that is, the conversion of stress and fear into actual physical illness. But most people know it by an older, creakier term: mass hysteria. Among scientists, it’s not a popular term these days, probably because “mass hysteria” summons the image of a huge mob, panicked into a stampede (with a whiff of misogyny thrown in). But properly understood, the official definition, when applied to the events in Havana, sounds eerily familiar. Conversion disorder, according to the International Journal of Social Psychiatry, is the “rapid spread of illness signs and symptoms among members of a cohesive social group, for which there is no corresponding organic origin.”

We tend to think of stress as something that afflicts an individual who is enduring heavy psychological pain. But conversion disorder, or mass psychogenic illness, as it is also known, is essentially stress that strikes a close-knit group, like an embassy under siege, and behaves epidemiologically—that is, it spreads like an infection. Because the origins of this affliction are psychological, it’s easy for those on the outside to dismiss it as being “all in the victim’s mind.” But the physical symptoms created by the mind are far from imaginary or faked. They are every bit as real, every bit as painful, and every bit as testable, as those that would be inflicted by, say, a sonic ray gun.

“Think of mass psychogenic illness as the placebo effect in reverse,” says Robert Bartholomew, a professor of medical sociology and one of the leading experts on conversion disorder. “You can often make yourself feel better by taking a sugar pill. You can also make yourself feel sick if you think you are becoming sick. Mass psychogenic illness involves the nervous system, and can mimic a variety of illnesses.”

Scientists in Cuba were among the first to realize that the outbreak at the American Embassy conformed to mass hysteria. Mitchell Valdés-Sosa, director of the Cuban Neuroscience Center, told The Washington Post, “If your government comes and tells you, ‘You’re under attack. We have to rapidly get you out of there,’ and some people start feeling sick … there’s a possibility of psychological contagion.”

Some American experts who were able to review the early evidence concurred. “It could certainly all be psychogenic,” Stanley Fahn, a neurologist at Columbia University, told Science magazine.

If you retrace the key events and anomalies of the outbreak at the embassy in Havana, every step of the way corresponds to those in classic cases of conversion disorder. The first few staffers hit by the symptoms were C.I.A. agents working on hostile soil—one of the most stressful positions imaginable. The initial conversation between Patient Zero and Patient One referenced only the odd sound; neither experienced any symptoms. Then, a few months later, a third embassy official reported that he was losing his hearing due to a “powerful beam of high-pitched sound.” As word spread quickly throughout the small, tight-knit complex of diplomats and other staff, Patient Zero helped sound the alarm. “He was lobbying, if not coercing, people to report symptoms and to connect the dots,” says Fulton Armstrong, a former C.I.A. officer who worked undercover in Cuba.


The article gives a pretty good overview of the progression of information regarding the Havana symptoms as well as a history of mass psychological outbreaks.

I was upset they didn't reference the Monkey Man of Delhi though. :lolbron:
 

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That article also included the fact that the sounds the diplomats were hearing that triggered the psychological response were....loud crickets. :dead:

This covers that detail a bit better:

The Sound That Haunted Diplomats in Cuba? Crickets. - The Atlantic

In late 2016, American diplomats living in Cuba started hearing a strange noise in their homes. It was high-pitched, deafening, and persistent—and no one could work out where it was coming from.

In the following years, the mystery ballooned into an international incident. Many of the diplomats experienced dizziness, insomnia, hearing loss, and other troubling symptoms. A team from the University of Pennsylvania examined 21 affected people and concluded that they had “sustained injury to widespread brain networks,” based on evidence that other neurologists said was “almost unbelievably flimsy.” Donald Trump, without evidence, accused Cuba of being responsible. Various parties argued that the strange noise was the result of a sonic weapon, a microwave attack, or malfunctioning eavesdropping equipment.

But when the biologist Alexander Stubbs heard a recording, uploaded by the Associated Press, he heard not mechanical bugs, but biological ones. He realized that the noise sounded like the insects he used to hear while doing fieldwork in the Caribbean.

Together with Fernando Montealegre-Z, an expert on entomological acoustics, Stubbs scoured an online database of insect recordings. As first reported by Carl Zimmer in The New York Times, they found that one species—the Indies short-tailed cricket—makes a call that’s indistinguishable from the enigmatic Cuban recording. The duo have written a paper that describes their findings and are set to submit it to a journal for formal peer review.

After analyzing similar recordings, the Cuban government had also pointed its finger at crickets. But they blamed the wrong species—one whose song sounds very different, even to untrained ears. By contrast, the song of the Indies short-tailed cricket matches the Cuban noise in several telltale ways. Both are loudest at a frequency of 7 kilohertz, roughly an octave beyond the highest notes on a piano. Both consist of pulses that repeat 180 times a second. In both, each pulse consists of 30 oscillations, which become slightly lower in pitch as they die away.

Only one thing didn’t match: The pulses in the AP recording were more erratic and variable than those of most insects. But that, Stubbs thinks, is because the cricket’s call was probably echoing off the surfaces of an indoor space, creating several sound streams that interfered with one another. When he played and recorded the cricket’s call indoors, the result matched the Cuban noise even more closely.

Cricket behavior could also help explain another mysterious detail of the Cuban incidents: Several diplomats claimed that the sound abruptly stopped when they entered a room or moved around. That’s “consistent with an insect stopping a call when threatened,” Stubbs and Montealegre-Z write.


Here's the sound of that cricket species:

Indies short-tailed cricket (Anurogryllus celerinictus)
 

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shyt was definitely left over Soviet weaponry being fukked around with by some retired KGB

Read the article - a weapon that would create the reported effects doesn't even seem scientifically possible now, and you think the Russians already had it 30 years ago? Sound waves just don't behave in a way necessary to make the effects in question.

Sound waves decrease dramatically with distance, and spread out with distance. So a sound wave strong enough to hurt someone's eardrums would have to be intensely loud out in the street where it originated. But no one heard anything out in the streets at all. Which would mean the device would have to be inside the room....but no one ever found devices inside any of the rooms...and how would agents get into that many rooms undetected?

it's not just that no one knows the technology to create such a weapon. We don't even know the physics. Sound waves just don't behave in the ways necessary to create the phenomena.


The part that really convinced me is that the victims spread socially rather than by any other sensible means. The first four victims were all American agents on undercover assignments. It would be insanely strange for someone to discover four different agents, but rather than taking advantage of the knowledge, blow their cover in such a strange way. After that it spread to other Americans, but in all sorts of different places - in homes, in hotels, government buildings, etc. The same people kept reporting the attacks even if they were in different places. How would that work?
 

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Reminds me of the whole stuck gas peddle phenomenon with Toyotas a while back. While the cause wasn't mass hysteria, the reaction and thinking definitely was and also its similar in that it was another case where people don't think the cause can be psychoactive and there has to be some external force. Like most people bought and the news media propagated that there was a technical issue with the cars, yet when they did the research and looked into the issue, they found that it was actually people who rented cars they were unfamiliar with the most and it was simply they were hitting the gas instead of the break. When they panicked, they reactively slammed on the break and instead slammed on the accelerator. Nothing was wrong with the cars at all. All human error and all in the mind.
 

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Reminds me of the whole stuck gas peddle phenomenon with Toyotas a while back. While the cause wasn't mass hysteria, the reaction and thinking definitely was and also its similar in that it was another case where people don't think the cause can be psychoactive and there has to be some external force. Like most people bought and the news media propagated that there was a technical issue with the cars, yet when they did the research and looked into the issue, they found that it was actually people who rented cars they were unfamiliar with the most and it was simply they were hitting the gas instead of the break. When they panicked, they reactively slammed on the break and instead slammed on the accelerator. Nothing was wrong with the cars at all. All human error and all in the mind.

2009–11 Toyota vehicle recalls - Wikipedia

The second recall, on January 21, 2010, was begun after some crashes were shown not to have been caused by floor mat incursion. This latter defect was identified as a possible mechanical sticking of the accelerator pedal causing unintended acceleration, referred to as Sticking Accelerator Pedal by Toyota.

Toyota's lawyers/PR machine got you breh

 

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Yeah I don’t buy this. My guess is they’re trying to downplay it in hopes whoever is doing it tries again so they can catch them in real time.
 

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Yeah I don’t buy this. My guess is they’re trying to downplay it in hopes whoever is doing it tries again so they can catch them in real time.
You're looking at this the wrong way, the fact that this nonsense was ever seriously entertained in the first place shows that they would never downplay anything that could be used in any way.

People have been joking about it for a while but even WaPo article says "there's no evidence of Russia using a new type of energy weapon in Ukraine". Why would Russians be shelling Ukraine for a year straight when they could just turn the brain melting machine to 11 :heh:
 
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