Daughter kills herself after Father cuts her hair and posts online

[Ronnie Lott]

Let me ask you guys who think i'm wrong this question.

If you cheat on your gf/wife and she finds out in a public/embarrassing way, then kills herself. Are you the cause of her death? @Ronnie Lott @scrilla




Did you cry to your mom after she punished you? Or were you angry and went to go cry in your room?



Yes. It's a typo. I had idiot there at first.

Compare a grown man/woman to a female child brehetts

 

[bcrusaderw]

they have a gofundme

"Hey everyone
The Laxamana family could really use our help. First and foremost they need prayers ! Please continue to pray for the family while they grieve the loss of sweet Izabel. We also want to gather donations for the memorial service, flying family in from out of town & any other financial needs during this hard time."

Now, that is just fukked up.

 

[Paper Boi]

Compare a grown man/woman to a female child brehetts

seriously. not even gonna bother with this shyt.

but no i wouldn't kill myself if my mom punished me. if my mom shaved my head i wouldn't give a fukk either because i always had short hair. honestly i can't think of any type of punishment my parents could have given me emotionally that would have effected me the same way as cutting off a early teen girls hair. especially following it up with shaming me in the social media age.

 

[Giselle]

Are you aware that there are people that are sitting in jail right now for bullying, teasing and emotionally abusing people to the point of suicide?

You are talking about harassment. Harassment and punishing your child is not the same thing.

 

[Giselle]

Compare a grown man/woman to a female child brehetts

Make it a teen relationship. It doesn't matter. It's the same thing. Answer the question.

If you were a teen and cheated on your teen gf and she found out in a public/embarrassing way, then kills herself, are you to blame for her death?

If you cheated on here and she found out and was embarrassed and killed you, are you to blame for your death?

Should you be blamed for her choosing to handle/express her emotions/feelings in those ways?

@scrilla @Ronnie Lott

 

[Paper Boi]

Make it a teen relationship. It doesn't matter. It's the same thing. Answer the question.

If you were a teen and cheated on your teen gf and she found out in a public/embarrassing way, then kills herself, are you to blame for her death?

If you cheated on here and she found out and was embarrassed and killed you, are you to blame for your death?

Should you be blamed for her choosing to handle/express her emotions/feelings in those ways?

@scrilla @Ronnie Lott

you really suck at analogies. if i'm her boyfriend and cheat on her then she kill herself then i'm not to blame. i'm also not supposed to be a responsible adult in this scenario, let alone a responsible adult looking out for her best interest such as her parent.

keep comparing apples and oranges to prove your flawed logic though.

 

[Giselle]

seriously. not even gonna bother with this shyt.

but no i wouldn't kill myself if my mom punished me. if my mom shaved my head i wouldn't give a fukk either because i always had short hair. honestly i can't think of any type of punishment my parents could have given me emotionally that would have effected me the same way as cutting off a early teen girls hair. especially following it up with shaming me in the social media age.

I am a female. I was a female in my early teens one, and I've always had long hair. If my parents would have done that to me, I would not have killed myself. Only you weak people care about little stuff like that. Those feelings come from caring too much about what other people think of you.

 

[Giselle]

you really suck at analogies. if i'm her boyfriend and cheat on her then she kill herself then i'm not to blame. i'm also not supposed to be a responsible adult in this scenario, let alone a responsible adult looking out for her best interest such as her parent.

keep comparing apples and oranges to prove your flawed logic though.

You are supposed to be her bf and look out for her best interest. It's the same thing.

The point is, you can't blame others for the way a person choses to handle a situation.

 

[Claudex]

All people with mental/emotional problems are not depressed. I don't know why you think that. Maybe you should do some research. I'm pretty sure no one knew she had issues. If she didn't want to be punished, then she shouldn't have been misbehaving. Stuff like that was not major in my mind when I was that age. It depends on the person and the way they think and handle their feelings. Again, It's her fault that she killed herself. No one else's but hers.

I can't believe you are blaming a suicide on someone else other than the person who killed themselves.

It's stupid.

I personally think that you're not getting the point of @Ronnie Lott and @scrilla 's arguments.

You are correct in saying that if she killed herself, she was probably not alright in the head.
The brehs are trying to tell you that if she isn't quite alright in the head then the problem lays in the parenting.

Logically speaking it sort of goes like this:

Girl is mentally unstable (therefore) ==> Girl kills herself [This is your argument]
Girl's parents suck at parenting (therefore) ==> Girl becomes mentally unstable (therefore) ==> Girl kills herself [This is their argument]

Now don't bite my head off pls. I'm just trynna help make things a little clearer in case they weren't for whatever reason. T'sall.

Note: Bare in mind that she was a 13 year old teen. This is a point in of a human life where they are more susceptible to outside influences because they yearn to assert their identity. That's why shyt like swag, and popularity become so important during such a part of life.

This being the internet age, I think it's much harder to raise your kid because the internet will leave them at the mercy of the most fukked up influences. So as a parent you gotta raise and educate your teenage son/daughter more than ever before.

 

[J Money]

they have a gofundme

"Hey everyone
The Laxamana family could really use our help. First and foremost they need prayers ! Please continue to pray for the family while they grieve the loss of sweet Izabel. We also want to gather donations for the memorial service, flying family in from out of town & any other financial needs during this hard time."

Absolute scust

Has anyone got a link to that gofundme? Hopefully you can leave comments

If anyone donates to this bullshyt

edit: found it



nearly 9 g's donated already. scust. At leas the son has a bean head

 

[Giselle]

I personally think that you're not getting the point of @Ronnie Lott and @scrilla 's arguments.

You are correct in saying that if she killed herself, she was probably not alright in the head.
The brehs are trying to tell you that if she isn't quite alright in the head then the problem lays in the parenting.

Logically speaking it sort of goes like this:

Girl is mentally unstable (therefore) ==> Girl kills herself [This is your argument]
Girl's parents suck at parenting (therefore) ==> Girl becomes mentally unstable (therefore) ==> Girl kills herself [This is their argument]

Now don't bite my head off pls. I'm just trynna help make things a little clearer in case they weren't for whatever reason. T'sall.

There are people with great parents who are mentally/emotionally unstable. Parents are not the only people who influence you, especially if you're a teen.

A public punishment does not mean that the parents suck at being parents.

She would have never been punished if she wouldn't have been misbehaving. It's still her fault.

I would really like to know what she did.

 

[Claudex]

seriously. not even gonna bother with this shyt.

but no i wouldn't kill myself if my mom punished me. if my mom shaved my head i wouldn't give a fukk either because i always had short hair. honestly i can't think of any type of punishment my parents could have given me emotionally that would have effected me the same way as cutting off a early teen girls hair. especially following it up with shaming me in the social media age.

Conversely, I think the bolded is a great answer to the reason as to why teen girls would feel worse about their hair getting cut rather than teen boys. Both will react negatively, but due to society's standards (that teens are very keen on following) any girl will be affected far worse if her hair is cut. That will be like downgrading them from a 7 (because a lot of them want to be like the real adult dime's so much) to a 3.

Boys on the other hand, will merely suffer for a little bit, until their hair grows back fast AF (short hair has always been the norm for boys). If for some reason their hair doesn't grow up...they can just pretend that they like the army buzz cut and somehow they're still following society's standards.

 

[Claudex]

There are people with great parents who are mentally/emotionally unstable. Parents are not the only people who influence you, especially if you're a teen.

A public punishment does not mean that the parents suck at being parents.

She would have never been punished if she wouldn't have been misbehaving. It's still her fault.

I would really like to know what she did.

This is the thing (the bolded)...we don't even know WHY the parents decided to apply the public punishment to their daughter. So really these arguments are quite silly because we can't prove that they were good parents, nor can we prove that they were bad parents. Simply because no one knows what happened within their house-hold.

No one knows if this public punishment was the last straw in the camel's back for the daughter.
No one knows if this public punishment was the last resort for two parents who couldn't figure out how to deal with their unstable daughter.

No one knows...except for the parents (which are the only ones alive now).

No one knows (I can't mention that enough).

All that we're really doing is inferring what happened to this family based on our own knowledge of society problems, and based on own our experience with our children/cousin/nieces/nephews.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Public shaming used to be common in the United States...in the fukking 1600s. It was banned by the Bill of Rights as it is considered cruel and unusual punishment.

And it doesn't work very well either. And that's with adults.

Kids going through puberty are less mentally in control even than kids 3-4 years younger than themselves. They have an unstable self-perception and are incredibly susceptible to outside influences. They're also very bad at reading other people and can often make wild and incorrect assumptions about what others think of them.

If you were a teen and cheated on your teen gf and she found out in a public/embarrassing way, then kills herself, are you to blame for her death?

If you cheated on here and she found out and was embarrassed and killed you, are you to blame for your death?

Should you be blamed for her choosing to handle/express her emotions/feelings in those ways?

That's an awful scenario. How about I give you a more accurate one.

What if you're an adult dating a 13-year-old and you cheat on her, purposely humiliate her online in a public/embarrassing way, and also alter her physical appearance such that she has to live with the shame wherever she goes in front of everyone who sees her.

You can't get away from the fact that:

1) This was an adult doing it to a child
2) The online, public nature of the shaming was completely intentional
3) He violated her physical appearance so that she had to be thinking about it (and thinking that everyone could see it) every waking moment

Hell yes, he was responsible. And even if she was an adult, and even if the punishment/shaming was moderately less in some way, he still would have been partially responsible - because the whole point of the "punishment" was to damage her emotionally/psychologically, and emotionally/psychologically damaged people are more likely to hurt themselves.

 

[LurkMoar]

that bytch was crazy


its so sad people dont realise how precious life is bet as soon as she steped off that ledge all her problems seems inconsequential.




kill yourself over hair brehs