Draymond Green vs The World...Day 3: Carmelo Kyam Anthony

[Illuminatos]

Show us the numbers that prove he's the worst at his position in defense.

Easily Draymond, Fat Iverson is fukking trash on defense. The Knicks would improve substantially if they Draymond at the 4 with KP playing the 5. It would allow KP to protect the rim and not have to chase stretch 4's which he has proven he is not comfortable doing on a consistent basis.



New York Knicks: Carmelo Anthony Must Lead The Defensive Turnaround

When Anthony is on the court, the Knicks allow an average of 111.6 points per 100 possessions. That’s the second-worst mark that New York has with any one player on the court, with only point guard Derrick Rose rating worse at 111.7.

When Anthony comes off the court, however, the Knicks have a team-best defensive rating of 102.4 points allowed per 100 possessions.

Fat Iverson is one of the worst defenders at his position
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Draymond is a beast on defense and is a much better passer than Fat Iverson has ever come close to being

Warriors' Draymond Green brags about his defense, so how good is he?

The Warriors, on the other hand, are seven points better per 100 possessions with Green on the floor defensively, is in the 93rd percentile via Synergy, and opponents are shooting 4.7 percent worse vs. Green.

 

[Bledswole]

Man I'm sorry yall keep compairing a nikka who got a career average of 8,6,4 a game to legit superstars

I'm done

 

[Kaypain]

Weirdo

 

[Cadillac]

Easily Draymond, Fat Iverson is fukking trash on defense. The Knicks would improve substantially if they Draymond at the 4 with KP playing the 5. It would allow KP to protect the rim and not have to chase stretch 4's which he has proven he is not comfortable doing on a consistent basis.



New York Knicks: Carmelo Anthony Must Lead The Defensive Turnaround

When Anthony is on the court, the Knicks allow an average of 111.6 points per 100 possessions. That’s the second-worst mark that New York has with any one player on the court, with only point guard Derrick Rose rating worse at 111.7.

When Anthony comes off the court, however, the Knicks have a team-best defensive rating of 102.4 points allowed per 100 possessions.

Fat Iverson is one of the worst defenders at his position
NBA Real Plus-Minus - National Basketball Association - ESPN
NBA 2016-17 TPA Scores | NBA MATH



Draymond is a beast on defense and is a much better passer than Fat Iverson has ever come close to being

Warriors' Draymond Green brags about his defense, so how good is he?

The Warriors, on the other hand, are seven points better per 100 possessions with Green on the floor defensively, is in the 93rd percentile via Synergy, and opponents are shooting 4.7 percent worse vs. Green.

@Melos defense
damn

 

[bigrodthe1]

are cats in here SERIOUSLY saying that if they switched teams that the knicks would be WORSE with Draymond??
the whole damn team culture would change with Draymond on the Knicks where Melo would probably end up benched in GS for holding the ball too long

 

[ogc163]

are cats in here SERIOUSLY saying that if they switched teams that the knicks would be WORSE with Draymond??
the whole damn team culture would change with Draymond on the Knicks where Melo would probably end up benched in GS for holding the ball too long

You got these dumb ass Melo stans in here all up in their feelings, as usual, making shytty arguments. These are the same people who have claimed the Spurs would be better off with Carmelo, and some would take Melo over PG, Butler, and Klay.

 

[ShoryukenHaduken]

Still gonna go with melo

Dray is good but is living off the attention his other teammatestake from him would the assist look as good if he was passing to....rubio for 3 instead of steph

Put him on a worse team like the timberwolves.....

thibs cant make wiggins or towns even average defenders u think dray dray gonna anchor that defense with 3 bad defenders instead of 1(steph)

he couldnt score on that team since there be little space since wiggins and rubio are average to below average from 3

melo aint got to much longer to be better tho

 

[Th3G3ntleman]

Man I'm sorry yall keep compairing a nikka who got a career average of 8,6,4 a game to legit superstars

I'm done

What do career averages have to do with who is the superior player this season? Are you stupid?

 

[ShoryukenHaduken]

are cats in here SERIOUSLY saying that if they switched teams that the knicks would be WORSE with Draymond??
the whole damn team culture would change with Draymond on the Knicks where Melo would probably end up benched in GS for holding the ball too long

why does everyone think melo would walk there day 1 and start fukking it up he go in there knowing hed have 3 great teammates and move the ball. Hes not gonna be the one to fukk the ship up by trying to force his way
Hell KD was holding the ball when he first got there and now hes passing it off a lot more u wouldn`t think melo would do the same?

 

[Bledswole]

What do career averages have to do with who is the superior player this season? Are you stupid?

Are you stupid? The fact you got people in here saying a 5th option type guy who just expends all his energy on defense is better than Melo or anyone else who is elite. You nikkas dumb,Draymond as your first option would be the worst season in franchise history for ANY team

 

[qnsfinest]

I can't take the coli serious when they say dumb shyt like "melos washed" or "melo sucks".

He's clearly neither, hall of fame career. Still going strong, hasn't been blessed to play with a good roster for the past 3 or 4 seasons (can blame him for it, but can't put all the blame on him). All this he is the worst defender is bullshyt, still an elit scorer, high percentage shooter from both the 2 and 3, good rebounder, will get downlow and bang with the bigs, good man to man defender.

There's players with better rosters than him and they still can't make no playoffs or barely hanging on to the playoffs.

This question wasn't who you would take for the next 10yrs, it was who is currently a better player and clearly its still Melo, you can't compare a system player to a 1st option player. The 4th best player in a system, until draymond doesnt branch off and becomes the 1st option on a team, he'll always be a role player, a system player whose been blessed to play with 2 top 5 players and 3 top 15. He doesn't have to burden to carry a franchise by himself

 

[KOBE]

The fact this poll is even close shows how dumb the coli can be.


"Can you imagine Green as a first option?", well Melo is currently the first option on a team full of struggle so I don't know what point you're trying to get at.

 

[smitty22]

The fact this poll is even close shows how dumb the coli can be.


"Can you imagine Green as a first option?", well Melo is currently the first option on a team full of struggle so I don't know what point you're trying to get at.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Another Draymond thread where nobody has established what a better player really is. Communication is real y'all.

 

[Illuminatos]

hasn't been blessed to play with a good roster for the past 3 or 4 seasons

This current Knicks roster should be good enough to make the playoffs in the East. This sure as hell ain't a championship supporting cast but it's not bad enough that they should be competing with Orlando and Philly for a lottery pick. That "he has no help" excuse ain't flying this year.