Ebro(Hot 97) says "NO" to REGIONAL Sounding HipHop

[mortuus est]

this nikka said they were dancing to shook ones

They were though!

I got chicks to grind on me to a lot of those songs you don't dance to.

When you are at a party, no one cares about the song being a "dance" song or not, if it's the shyt everyone gets amped. Some people get hyped, some want to fight, and some want to grind on each other. Most southern songs are not club songs, yet they bump in that bytch. Do you really think U.O.E.N.O is a "club" song?. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu6bRRDmSRQ

The beat is too slow to get down, the lyrics is on some street shyt, yet the bytches love it in the club. True "club" music is EDM, but when a song is your jam, you don't care, you can jam to it regardless of how slow it is. This is music, not math so anything can make you feel good, and want to boogie.

I don't think people want to hear a gospel song in the club while they are getting their grind on, though. I don't care how good it sounds.

 

[spliz]

Bruh if you saying that shyt like Tear the Club up was getting more than nominal play up there in the regular rotation than you's a lie. Of course up top heads "heard" the song. You had bet, mtv and the box. But to say that it was being bumped on hot 97 like that is revisionist history.

Nowhere did i ever say that NO songs from other regions got played up there. Im just saying by and large they were excluded from the playlist. I heard way more dancehall and reggae than i did music from other regions.


And for the record cats did bump it was written era nas, and as i said If i ruled the world was fukked with heavily. They looked at illmatic Nas like , but cats liked that iww. They liked that purple tape too. They liked certain up top songs because down in the A they played everything. Outkast formed out of a love of tribe called quest and souls of mischief. ATL was heavily influenced by the Bay Area in the 90s as well as florida and Tennessee. It was a melting pot of styles and culture when i first moved down this place. Their version of Hot 97 pumped ny music along with west coast and southern shyt damn near equally

like I said...nikkas up here fukked wit all those artists u named...PERIOD...like I said..some DJ's hated...that they don't account for all the PEOPLE IN NY...nikka...other regions got love up here...period..u was actin like NY aint fukk wit those artists and u basically got ur eyes open goin down south n shyt...the ONLY thing that happened wit u goin down south is this...they played MORE South shyt than NY shyt down there...therefore exposing u to the shyt more than it was up here...cause they had..guess what?...REGIONAL BIAS...like EVERY region does...same way u try to tell me that we aint play they shyt up here if it wasnt a hit...is the same reason u heard If I Ruled The World down there...it was a fukkin HIT g...with an artist who was in the one of the most successful groups at the time on the hook...THE FUGEES..point is..u dont know what u talkin bout...ur criticizing us and then bigging them up for doin the SAME EXACT shyt...period...and I been goin back n forth down south my whole life...I got family all thru that shyt..u actin like nikkas was down there playin Boot Camp Clik on the radio n shyt...

 

[spliz]

I remember hearing some west coast people making fun of southern people/artist, and calling them country. It was funny to me because I thought the west coast was country, and late. They were rocking jerry curls, and had no style in clothes when we were WAY past that shyt. I learned to love the west coast though, when I opened up my mind, and stopped thinking NYC was the best, and Hip Hop had one sound.

Mind you, I'm not talking about 1997, and on. I'm talking about 1988-1995/6. Also, yeah the west showed way more love then the east, to the south, but they still played them somewhat. It wasn't ALWAYS love.

from what I understand...West Coast always showed the south love OVERALL..yall nikkas giving the south TOO MUCH fukkin credit...yall pointin out obscure lil hatin n shyt and painting it on a WHOLE STATE or region...yet won't do the same when it comes to the south...like them nikkas never dissed cats in NY or nothin..and I know for a FACT nikkas down south used to do it cause I used to get in a few arguments wit nikkas down there back in the day...like I said before...EVERY coast has some regional bias but the fukkin picture gets painted like the South is some innocent region that didnt get no love and got shytted on while at the same time showing love to everyone and doing no harm...yall could MISS me wit all that bullshyt...

 

[CashmereThoughts]

French Montana is all over the radio and flopped.

The Radio DOESN'T MATTER.

Build your fanbase online.

It's case by case, terrestrial radio made maclemore a superstar... For artist that sell millions, nothing is more powerfull then radio.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Bruh if you saying that shyt like Tear the Club up was getting more than nominal play up there in the regular rotation than you's a lie. Of course up top heads "heard" the song. You had bet, mtv and the box. But to say that it was being bumped on hot 97 like that is revisionist history.

Nowhere did i ever say that NO songs from other regions got played up there. Im just saying by and large they were excluded from the playlist. I heard way more dancehall and reggae than i did music from other regions.


And for the record cats did bump it was written era nas, and as i said If i ruled the world was fukked with heavily. They looked at illmatic Nas like , but cats liked that iww. They liked that purple tape too. They liked certain up top songs because down in the A they played everything. Outkast formed out of a love of tribe called quest and souls of mischief. ATL was heavily influenced by the Bay Area in the 90s as well as florida and Tennessee. It was a melting pot of styles and culture when i first moved down this place. Their version of Hot 97 pumped ny music along with west coast and southern shyt damn near equally

Every region has its bias

The real question is why you are taking NYC to task for something that happens everywhere

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

You gotta be kidding me.

"shook ones" is arguably one of the least danceable songs ever created in music! LMAO

Just imagine some bytches in the club trying to grind or bounce they're asses to that song?? Forreal, just imagine that shyt for a sec. and realize how goofy that would look


And I don't ever think hip hop will get away from "Southern" influences. What I mean is Rap music, especially what's being played on the radio or in the clubs, will always have some kind bass and hi hats.

Unless rappers start rapping on dubstep or house beats

Oh.... you said grind or bounce... nobody in this thread actually defined what they meant by dance... By that definition that stuff kid-n-play were doing in house party isnt dancing, neither is the Running Man, Cabbage Patch, Roger Rabbit, etc.... or any dance you do without a partner. How about ReRun and the Rockers or even James Brown stuff. Sh!t, you cant even grind to those "Southern Songs"

I always thought clubs and parties played the hot songs. People would bop, jump, stomp, 2, 3, 4 step or whatever..Then towards the end they play the slow jams for you to grind on the girl to. Then you leave with her and hit.

 

[bouncy]

its ALWAYS been love between the south & west

i never heard the west coast artist or pepple diss the south.Geto boys & Rap A Lot records,MC Shy D and 2 Live Crew always got major love on the west.They even had a Bay area artist on their label Rap a Lot in 93.Bushwick Bill is on the Chronic album.It was a rap group from the south on Death Row records in 1993.The D.O.C is from the South and signed to Ruthless in the 80s.

Geto boys knew the East was the ones doing the hating
Geto Boys - Do It Like A G.O. - YouTube
the south and west got plenty of tracks that talking about how the east dont like them.find one track from a west coast rapper dissing the south or a south rapper dissing the west in 1988 to 1995/6.

No doubt, but you misread me, I stated people NOT artist. I don't think it made that much of a difference as far as music wise because the west coast had more similarities to the west than the east, particularly NYC, meaning the way of life. We have tons of buildings, ride trains, and a way of speaking. The west have houses, use cars as the main mode of traveling, and their way of speak sound similar. It was more easier for southerners to blend into west coast life then east coast life, but that doesn't mean it was all love.

Just because Rap-A-Lot had a Bay Area artist or the DOC was from the south doesn't mean that much. The west was running hip hop by 1993 so it would be stupid to NOT have someone on your label doing west coast type of music. The group who was down with Eazy-E, who had "Boyz in the hood" written for them, were from NYC. Remember LA is a major city in entertainment, so they have people from all over that live there. shyt, Def Jef was form NYC, and gave major love to cali.

Anyway, because I can't remember exactly where I heard it, I can give that to you, and admit I was wrong, but I remember hearing it back in the day.

I wish I could find where I heard it at, or who I heard it from, but that was years ago.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Oh well. The South and the Internet proves that THE PEOPLE know whats hot.

 

[How Sway?]

Oh.... you said grind or bounce... nobody in this thread actually defined what they meant by dance... By that definition that stuff kid-n-play were doing in house party isnt dancing, neither is the Running Man, Cabbage Patch, Roger Rabbit, etc.... or any dance you do without a partner. How about ReRun and the Rockers or even James Brown stuff. Sh!t, you cant even grind to those "Southern Songs"

I always thought clubs and parties played the hot songs. People would bop, jump, stomp, 2, 3, 4 step or whatever..Then towards the end they play the slow jams for you to grind on the girl to. Then you leave with her and hit.

Shook ones is still not a danceable song at all

And You just cant compare ANything Kid-n-play did to shook ones

I'm sure they might have the same BPM an dtempo but I just can't see anyone trying to "get their groove on" to shook ones

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Shook ones is still not a danceable song at all

And You just cant compare ANything Kid-n-play did to shook ones

I'm sure they might have the same BPM an dtempo but I just can't see anyone trying to "get their groove on" to shook ones

thats the point i am trying to make. When this discussion first started it wasnt said anyone was "trying to get their groove on" it was just dancing. I was just stating that people did dance to those songs back then. When those songs came on everybody didnt sit down and start mean mugging, people were on the floor. Thats my only point. Whether you, I or john Doe thought a song is danceable is irrelevant, the fact is people were on the floor doing something.

Back then dancing was more than just dry humping.. that only happened when the DJ played reggae..

 

[Ian1362]

Revisionism everywhere

cats at ppl dancing to shook ones when stuff like Ice Cream, Quiet Storm, Leflaur Leflah Eshkoshka, etc were actually getting played in clubs

 

[Lewis Black]

mayneeeeeeeeee aint nobody dancing to shook ones lmao

 

[Big Skilly Films]

n1ggas mad cause ny called n1ggas wack its because they were we dont support trash sh1t you wack n1ggas was putting out...now the dope sh1t from your region ny always fcked with it...its that you dumb motherfukkers thinking a "mac-dre" is dope when no one else did except your lil area...thats not hating its being real wack is wack...we dissed n1ggas in ny too that were wack...only thing is other regions were sensitive and didnt like that...and now 15 yrs later you wack motherfukkers are still salty lol...get a blanket and hide under it if you dont like what we say...sensitive emotional n1ggas lol

 

[rapbeats]

You can't paint all NYers with such a wide brush. During the 90s we had Big, Wu, Nas, Mobb, De La,Boot Camp, Trigga n Smooth, Redman Craig Mack. Keith Murray, LL, Busta, Tribe, Jeru, Lost Boyz, Jay, AZ, Pun, Cam, Krs, GRap, Big L... And the culture within the city was so vibrant. We didn't need to look elsewhere for quality hip hop. It's like going clubbing look for hoes when you live in the Playboy mansion

i wont let that slide. the west had just as much quality. but guess what we were playing? all those you just named minus BIg L. he didnt make it over hear before he died.

but literally everyone you just named was on Los ANGELES RADIO. and i'm not just talking on some 12 am sway and tech show either. it was getting real play.

Jeru was in heavy rotation. and thats some heavy east coast music.

we loved the east, had love for the south, and had a little bay area love as well. the beauty of being in LA LA during the golden era was we heard EVERYBODY. there was no discriminating.

which is why the SOUTH only motto of todays radio is not just new york karma. cause it has effected the west also. we were down with the south from day one. yet we cant get burn down there now nor can we get local burn. sure there was a short little run with them kids making that silly music and doing dances. but even that was SOUTHERN-ish, since the south was making the dance move songs a few years ago.

 

[rapbeats]

n1ggas mad cause ny called n1ggas wack its because they were we dont support trash sh1t you wack n1ggas was putting out...now the dope sh1t from your region ny always fcked with it...its that you dumb motherfukkers thinking a "mac-dre" is dope when no one else did except your lil area...thats not hating its being real wack is wack...we dissed n1ggas in ny too that were wack...only thing is other regions were sensitive and didnt like that...and now 15 yrs later you wack motherfukkers are still salty lol...get a blanket and hide under it if you dont like what we say...sensitive emotional n1ggas lol

stop hatin on the bay. sure they have there only little sound to themselves. that most dont mess with. but to ever say E40 was wack. you're insane. you dont have to love the dude. but to call that man's discography wack thru and thru tells me you dont know hiphop. and you're just one of those if it aint snoop/pac then anything from anywhere outside of new yawk is wack.

and the only reason you gave snoop and pac a pass is because the entire planet ate it up. you didnt want to be the losers that were to stupid to play those icons.

and lets be clear New york had its share of wack rappers as well. but we didnt use that as an excuse to not play yall out west. we gave yall burn. if the song stuck. then great, if not, dump it.
yall wouldnt even give anyone else a shot.