Ebro(Hot 97) says "NO" to REGIONAL Sounding HipHop

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Bruh i was up there. :what: Yea the occasional SMASH HIT inescapable song would pop up and get play, but have u ever heard Big Mike, UGK, 8 ball, Luke, Tela, etc etc on the radio during the golden era of hip hop? fukk no. Every ny nikka would say " i dont fux with the south dun except outkast and goodie, and i dont fux with the west except for Snoop" etc etc. There was always the occasional person, but NY and up north radio was 95% regional in the mid to late 90s

You can't paint all NYers with such a wide brush. During the 90s we had Big, Wu, Nas, Mobb, De La,Boot Camp, Trigga n Smooth, Redman Craig Mack. Keith Murray, LL, Busta, Tribe, Jeru, Lost Boyz, Jay, AZ, Pun, Cam, Krs, GRap, Big L... And the culture within the city was so vibrant. We didn't need to look elsewhere for quality hip hop. It's like going clubbing look for hoes when you live in the Playboy mansion
 

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The west use to dis the south also...

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The West always showed Down South love and gave props when it came to Rap music.
 

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It's spiritual payback.

I believe what you put out, comes back to you, and NYC was on some other shyt when it came to other regions. We really loved smelling our own shyt, but we shytted on other people. This wasn't even just in music, but regular people who left NYC to live other places. We would talk about how NYC is better, and shyt on the place we were at, and built up hate towards us. A lot of people LOVED New Yorkers, and wanted to please us, but our egos fukked that up, and now we are seeing the payback.

Real talk there.
 

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"karma" isn't group based, its a very specific concept that expresses each individual has their own karma. whether it is affected by a supreme being or nature itself, karma centres around the actions and deeds of the individual. its not inherited like wealth or poverty. I wouldn't call whats going on with east-coast hip-hop "karma" in any sense of the word.

Yeah, that's why the better phrase would be the "Law of cause, & effect" as I stated.

We are not alone in this world, and we are learning about the group consciousness that is effecting the world as we know it. EVERYTHING we do will effect the generation after us, so I don't see how anyone can not see how NYC being biased, played a part in the situation they are facing now. I seen it in my life, others around me, so it's not hard for me to see it on a bigger scale.
 

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No it wasn't...Make Em Say Ugh came out in like 97 g..and No Limit was everywhere...3.6.Mafia had they shyt wit Tear The Club Up....I was born n raised here...son I can go further and name plenty more songs..there WAS regional bias...but not on the level like nikkas make it..that was mostly some hatin ass DJ's and magazines for the most part...but the PEOPLE??..NOPE...they was more partial to NY artists..but if ya shyt was hot it got love for the most part...ALL that shyt I named got play and then some...and where the fukk was u at that Luke ain't get love up here?...shyt..nikkas even showed love to Tag Team and Quad City Dj's n shyt..what u sayin is false g...Geto Boys got love...etc etc..son..how u think cats like Bone thugs ended up on Biggie album?..or Twista ended up on Puff Daddy and The Family album?..son u either lyin..only fukked wit shyt ya crew fukked wit..or just straight up don't remember...

You're naming a few, and the change started in 1997. Before that there wasn't much love for artist from other regions like that. I remember the source shytting on a lot of southern, and west coast artist, funkmasterflex dissing west coast, and mack 10 coming for his ass. Why do you think the westside connection was formed, and the disses they had were about? Outkast, and goodie mob complaining on the radio about being booed at the New Music Seminar in 1993/1994, and the source awards, scarface talked about the ghetto boys being booed at the same seminar in the early '90's.

From what I remember, NYC only liked artist when the artist became big all over the country, and went "pop", but when they were popping on a smaller level, they got no love for the most part. Yeah some liked them, but the average didn't, UNTIL that southern sound started gaining props. From what I can tell it wasn't like that in some of the south until we started hating so much, and definitely not on the west coast.

An example is tag teams "whoop there is it" that you gave. I remember that song being a hit all throughout the south before NYC even thought of playing it, once it started gaining notoriety, then I heard it on the radio. Another is luke, like you gave. His hit with "I wanna rock" got play in NYC when it came out, but luke was bumping before that, and after that, but no love in NYC. "Scarred" was the shyt, but NYC wasn't playing it. Same for "raise the roof". shyt when 2 live crew was selling platinum, you didn't really hear their songs on the mixshows on kiss or wbls.

Yeah, NYC started giving love in the late 90's, but it was too late, and even then they were still hating on the low. Remember in the mid 2000's when the south started really gaining in popularity, particularly Atlanta, and people were hating on the south talking about how they were going to "bring NYC back":beli:. You think the south didn't take offense to that?. Even Ludacris rocked a shirt stating "Hip Hop isn't dead, it lives in the south" at the B.E.T. Hip Hop awards when Nas came out with "Hip Hop is dead". I agree with both of them actually. Nas meant the culture of Hip Hop, and Ludacris meant the music making money, and growing.

Ice Cube let it be known on this shyt:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCzMLxNpZ3c"]WC feat. Ice Cube and Mack 10 - West up!! - YouTube[/ame]

"Now I got ta show you how the West coast rocks No razor blades, in my mouth, just a glock And I'm hittin you up, with that W-S The sun, rises in the East, but it sets in the West No gold teeth, you gets a wreath So hand me the goodies, stockin mask, no hoodies Christmas day, I'm in a tre While some of you nikkaz got the robe reindeer and a sleigh We don't call it five-oh, we call it one time It's my life my life my life my life, in the sunshine! One nine weighs a ton How the fukk you think that the West was won? Now shyt can be squashed over a forty ounce of backwash No jokes, the land of locs and hundred spokes In the East, we can be brothers But when you come to L.A., watch your motherfukkin colors West Up! nikka
 

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The West always showed Down South love and gave props when it came to Rap music.

I remember hearing some west coast people making fun of southern people/artist, and calling them country. It was funny to me because I thought the west coast was country, and late. They were rocking jerry curls, and had no style in clothes when we were WAY past that shyt. I learned to love the west coast though, when I opened up my mind, and stopped thinking NYC was the best, and Hip Hop had one sound.

Mind you, I'm not talking about 1997, and on. I'm talking about 1988-1995/6. Also, yeah the west showed way more love then the east, to the south, but they still played them somewhat. It wasn't ALWAYS love.
 

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You're naming a few, and the change started in 1997. Before that there wasn't much love for artist from other regions like that. I remember the source shytting on a lot of southern, and west coast artist, funkmasterflex dissing west coast, and mack 10 coming for his ass. Why do you think the westside connection was formed, and the disses they had were about? Outkast, and goodie mob complaining on the radio about being booed at the New Music Seminar in 1993/1994, and the source awards, scarface talked about the ghetto boys being booed at the same seminar in the early '90's.

From what I remember, NYC only liked artist when the artist became big all over the country, and went "pop", but when they were popping on a smaller level, they got no love for the most part. Yeah some liked them, but the average didn't, UNTIL that southern sound started gaining props. From what I can tell it wasn't like that in some of the south until we started hating so much, and definitely not on the west coast.

An example is tag teams "whoop there is it" that you gave. I remember that song being a hit all throughout the south before NYC even thought of playing it, once it started gaining notoriety, then I heard it on the radio. Another is luke, like you gave. His hit with "I wanna rock" got play in NYC when it came out, but luke was bumping before that, and after that, but no love in NYC. "Scarred" was the shyt, but NYC wasn't playing it. Same for "raise the roof". shyt when 2 live crew was selling platinum, you didn't really hear their songs on the mixshows on kiss or wbls.

Yeah, NYC started giving love in the late 90's, but it was too late, and even then they were still hating on the low. Remember in the mid 2000's when the south started really gaining in popularity, particularly Atlanta, and people



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were hating on the south talking about how they were going to "bring NYC back":beli:. You think the south didn't take offense to that?. Even Ludacris rocked a shirt stating "Hip Hop isn't dead, it lives in the south" at the B.E.T. Hip Hop awards when Nas came out with "Hip Hop is dead". I agree with both of them actually. Nas meant the culture of Hip Hop, and Ludacris meant the music making money, and growing.

Ice Cube let it be known on this shyt:
WC feat. Ice Cube and Mack 10 - West up!! - YouTube

"Now I got ta show you how the West coast rocks No razor blades, in my mouth, just a glock And I'm hittin you up, with that W-S The sun, rises in the East, but it sets in the West No gold teeth, you gets a wreath So hand me the goodies, stockin mask, no hoodies Christmas day, I'm in a tre While some of you nikkaz got the robe reindeer and a sleigh We don't call it five-oh, we call it one time It's my life my life my life my life, in the sunshine! One nine weighs a ton How the fukk you think that the West was won? Now shyt can be squashed over a forty ounce of backwash No jokes, the land of locs and hundred spokes In the East, we can be brothers But when you come to L.A., watch your motherfukkin colors West Up! nikka


So this was around the time it was living in the South right? :beli::beli::beli::beli::beli::beli::beli::beli:
 
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papoose could drop a joint tomorrow full of ancient zulu chants from the year 44 BC. if it sells 1,000,000 by july, he'll be living in connecticut by the end of the year.

we're being programmed...viacom is the devil...im not buying it. still dont nothing move but the money. only when the fiscal reports say people dont want to hear that bullshyt will it stop
 

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So this was around the time it was living in the South right? D4L - Laffy Taffy - YouTube :beli::beli::beli::beli::beli::beli::beli::beli:

That was one song.

This was popping around that time also:




[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfPLcQhXpCc"]Paul Wall - Sittin' Sidewayz (Nice Quality) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhZUN6Wk-ik"]Mike Jones Feat. Slim Thug & Paul Wall - Still Tippin - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pudIZbCRq_c"]Rich Boy - Throw Some D's - YouTube[/ame]
You're reaction is why I understand why they got mad. You ignore the good shyt, and talk about the negative.

BTW, I liked "Betcha Can't Do It Like Me" once I heard them spitting, and stopped being biased. They was flowing on that song.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-mZ9HQteWU[/ame]
 
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this nikka said they were dancing to shook ones :laff:

They were though!

I got chicks to grind on me to a lot of those songs you don't dance to.:youngsabo:

When you are at a party, no one cares about the song being a "dance" song or not, if it's the shyt everyone gets amped. Some people get hyped, some want to fight, and some want to grind on each other. Most southern songs are not club songs, yet they bump in that bytch. Do you really think U.O.E.N.O is a "club" song?. [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu6bRRDmSRQ[/ame]

The beat is too slow to get down, the lyrics is on some street shyt, yet the bytches love it in the club. True "club" music is EDM, but when a song is your jam, you don't care, you can jam to it regardless of how slow it is. This is music, not math so anything can make you feel good, and want to boogie.

I don't think people want to hear a gospel song in the club while they are getting their grind on, though. I don't care how good it sounds.
 

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@lotty I was living in the South when those joints came out, and i def wasn't mad that the south was bubbling, but that a whole @ss of wackness was getting shine. And these mumble mouf nikkas were bigging themselves up as if they were ushering in a hip hop renaissance. I bumped Jeezy, Tip, Ross, Little Brother, Ludacris, etc around that time & ish all over filth like "party like a rock star" shyt I bumped Trillville too, but I recognized the high volume of halfass rappers that were crawling out the woodwork
 
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No it wasn't...Make Em Say Ugh came out in like 97 g..and No Limit was everywhere...3.6.Mafia had they shyt wit Tear The Club Up....I was born n raised here...son I can go further and name plenty more songs..there WAS regional bias...but not on the level like nikkas make it..that was mostly some hatin ass DJ's and magazines for the most part...but the PEOPLE??..NOPE...they was more partial to NY artists..but if ya shyt was hot it got love for the most part...ALL that shyt I named got play and then some...and where the fukk was u at that Luke ain't get love up here?...shyt..nikkas even showed love to Tag Team and Quad City Dj's n shyt..what u sayin is false g...Geto Boys got love...etc etc..son..how u think cats like Bone thugs ended up on Biggie album?..or Twista ended up on Puff Daddy and The Family album?..son u either lyin..only fukked wit shyt ya crew fukked wit..or just straight up don't remember...

Bruh if you saying that shyt like Tear the Club up was getting more than nominal play up there in the regular rotation than you's a lie. Of course up top heads "heard" the song. You had bet, mtv and the box. But to say that it was being bumped on hot 97 like that is revisionist history.

Nowhere did i ever say that NO songs from other regions got played up there. Im just saying by and large they were excluded from the playlist. I heard way more dancehall and reggae than i did music from other regions.


And for the record cats did bump it was written era nas, and as i said If i ruled the world was fukked with heavily. They looked at illmatic Nas like :rudy:, but cats liked that iww. They liked that purple tape too. They liked certain up top songs because down in the A they played everything. Outkast formed out of a love of tribe called quest and souls of mischief. ATL was heavily influenced by the Bay Area in the 90s as well as florida and Tennessee. It was a melting pot of styles and culture when i first moved down this place. Their version of Hot 97 pumped ny music along with west coast and southern shyt damn near equally
 

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I remember hearing some west coast people making fun of southern people/artist, and calling them country. It was funny to me because I thought the west coast was country, and late. They were rocking jerry curls, and had no style in clothes when we were WAY past that shyt. I learned to love the west coast though, when I opened up my mind, and stopped thinking NYC was the best, and Hip Hop had one sound.

Mind you, I'm not talking about 1997, and on. I'm talking about 1988-1995/6. Also, yeah the west showed way more love then the east, to the south, but they still played them somewhat. It wasn't ALWAYS love.

its ALWAYS been love between the south & west

i never heard the west coast artist or pepple diss the south.Geto boys & Rap A Lot records,MC Shy D and 2 Live Crew always got major love on the west.They even had a Bay area artist on their label Rap a Lot in 93.Bushwick Bill is on the Chronic album.It was a rap group from the south on Death Row records in 1993.The D.O.C is from the South and signed to Ruthless in the 80s.

Geto boys knew the East was the ones doing the hating

the south and west got plenty of tracks that talking about how the east dont like them.find one track from a west coast rapper dissing the south or a south rapper dissing the west in 1988 to 1995/6.
 
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