Explosion at Ariana Grande concert in Manchester (22 dead so far)

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fukk off, you unintelligent pleb.
I actually wouldn't mind living in Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Turkey, Maldives, ect
I could list several shytty Christian countries countries.
You clearly have no understanding of context nor history and have a simple way of thinking.
Assuming that because a country has a lot of Muslims in it and it is also a shyt culture is purely due to Islam shows that you aren't educated.
There are several variables that you need to take into consideration as to why a country is the way it is.



And you're clearly parroting some bullshyt you've seen from some Alt-Right channel you dumb fukk :mjlol:. Anyone that uses the the word Liberal as a pejorative is a retarded mong and doesn't deserve any further attention.

And yeah that's right in "Central Western and East" (whatever that is) muslims are killing blacks because they're muslims. It's not like there are black muslims or anything. :heh:

It's not like human beings kill other human beings, is it? No it's purely ISLAMIC DEATH CULT SHARIA LAW :heh:



You're projecting, no one has an inferioty complex except you. I don't hate white people and I don't hate brown people.You on the other hand clearly feel slighted by those "pakis" and as a result have embraced some racist idiotic views.
However, if we're speaking objectively no one has commited atrocities that are on par with white supremacists.
bruh, do you not realize that extremists brag about using US liberals as pawns?

I'm a liberal person.

that doesn't mean they don't seek to exploit our tolerance

theres a balance here

we don't need to rubber stamp muslim complicity
 

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A moderate muslim is someone who by and large holds terrible views about liberal society


Don't play that game.

Muslims have lapped white extremists in the last 15 years

Muslims have lapped white Christian extremists in the last 15 years? So the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are going to be conveniently forgotten huh :comeon:The funding of radical Islamic extremist groups is going to be conveniently forgotten too right?
Trump literally made a $110 billion arms deal the other day when he said that they were the biggest funders of terrorism. You don't have a leg to stand on condeming terrorists when you actively support it.

y'all wanna turn into scholars and historians whenever a muslim blows some shyt up

You're filibustering and we all see through your bullshyt

I'm sorry but this issue doesn't have a simple answer. It's not as easy as blaming Islam for everything:manny:


I'm telling them that LIBERALS LIKE ME won't always be around to deflect from muslim complicity

This is THEIR community. They need to fix it or else the creeping threat of right wingers will


Muslims keep abusing this privilege

Wanna bet?

For every one who blows something up, theres a lot more who agree with the act and even then theres losers like you who "understand"

Thats not my problem


neither of which blew up a pop star concert in Manchester

muslims integrate the worst among any demographic in western society

they shun liberal values and by and large hold views incompatible with liberal societies

The average Western muslim isn't that different from the average Republican christian in terms of values.:ehh:

bruh, do you not realize that extremists brag about using US liberals as pawns?

I'm a liberal person.

that doesn't mean they don't seek to exploit our tolerance

theres a balance here

we don't need to rubber stamp muslim complicity

Of course they do, it's a tactic that would allow Liberals to be demonised in order to further the ostracisation of Muslims so they can perpertuate their Islam vs West narrative and help their recruitment.

The thing that bothers me about this "muslim complicity" angle is that whilst it is true that some Muslims hold staunchly conservative values - why do these same groups that demonise Extremist Muslims not demonise Extremist white supremacist groups when they're practically the same.

The Alt-Right claims to value "Free Speech", well if it does then why shouldn't these Muslims be allowed to hate Gays and hate others?:jbhmm:
They use the "Hate Speech is Free Speech" angle only when it's beneficial to them. I don't believe in unlimited free speech so I don't see a problem with those who incite violence and hatred being arrested but the contradictions reveal that there is a racism to all of this Anti-Islam rhetoric. :yeshrug:

@BocaRear did you think trump's muslim ban came out of nowhere?
Trump's muslim ban is a list of countries that have been destabilised by the USA. It's purely political pandering to his moronic racist supporters. Why isn't Saudi Arabia on that list?
 

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Muslims have lapped white Christian extremists in the last 15 years? So the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are going to be conveniently forgotten huh :comeon:The funding of radical Islamic extremist groups is going to be conveniently forgotten too right?
Trump literally made a $110 billion arms deal the other day when he said that they were the biggest funders of terrorism. You don't have a leg to stand on condeming terrorists when you actively support it.
you're talking about arms deals to the Saudi state

I'm talking about bombs in manchester

Muslims have lapped white Christian extremists in the last 15 years? So the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are going to be conveniently forgotten huh :comeon:The funding of radical Islamic extremist groups is going to be conveniently forgotten too right?
Trump literally made a $110 billion arms deal the other day when he said that they were the biggest funders of terrorism. You don't have a leg to stand on condeming terrorists when you actively support it.



I'm sorry but this issue doesn't have a simple answer. It's not as easy as blaming Islam for everything:manny:




The average Western muslim isn't that different from the average Republican christian in terms of values.:ehh:



Of course they do, it's a tactic that would allow Liberals to be demonised in order to further the ostracisation of Muslims so they can perpertuate their Islam vs West narrative and help their recruitment.

The thing that bothers me about this "muslim complicity" angle is that whilst it is true that some Muslims hold staunchly conservative values - why do these same groups that demonise Extremist Muslims not demonise Extremist white supremacist groups when they're practically the same.

The Alt-Right claims to value "Free Speech", well if it does then why shouldn't these Muslims be allowed to hate Gays and hate others?:jbhmm:
They use the "Hate Speech is Free Speech" angle only when it's beneficial to them. I don't believe in unlimited free speech so I don't see a problem with those who incite violence and hatred being arrested but the contradictions reveal that there is a racism to all of this Anti-Islam rhetoric. :yeshrug:


Trump's muslim ban is a list of countries that have been destabilised by the USA. It's purely political pandering. Why isn't Saudi Arabia on that list?



we're talking about muslims now

not white people

not the alt right

not nazis

not drug cartels

not aliens

not PETA

not the Chinese

not the russians

not gang violence

MUSLIMS
 

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you're talking about arms deals to the Saudi state

I'm talking about bombs in manchester





we're talking about muslims now

not white people

not the alt right

not nazis

not drug cartels

not aliens

not PETA

not the Chinese

not the russians

not gang violence

MUSLIMS

Here come the scholar warriors to talk about Algebra and the Iraq War :duck:

Yeah because events occur in a vacuum from one another and don't influence each other right?
If you want a simple answer that appeals to emotion go listen to those Alt-Right youtubers or Sam Harris
If you want a serious answer you need to do an actual investigation as to why these events happen and are happening at an increasing rate.
Come on, this is Higher Learning :what:
 

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Yeah because events occur in a vacuum from one another and don't influence each other right?
If you want a simple answer that appeals to emotion go listen to those Alt-Right youtubers or Sam Harris
If you want a serious answer you need to do an actual investigation as to why these events happen and are happening at an increasing rate.
Come on, this is Higher Learning :what:
Bruh, you're literally defending this heinous act by pretending everyone who isn't out here standing on the front lines defending muslims en masse hasn't heard this all before..

The mass public knows more about islam than it did 20 years ago and yet y'all wanna hold a history lesson when its time to collect bodies and toe tag teenagers.

The fukk is up with you?

You're a muslim, right?

Well yeah, lets get to the root of the matter.

I've got muslim friends from across the diaspora. I'm talking Nigerian, Pakistani, Sudanese, etc. But they're pretty chill people. They're westernized

But we ALL know they got that one homie who is a little too extreme when he gets drunk or he might get too comfy and let some shyt slip. THATS who I'm talking about.

The time to prevent this shyt isn't when they have the bomb made. Its the fact that the ideology itself is toxic and regressive. Islam itself is a cancer on the West. WE just continue to hope that the Muslims we do have will stop taking shyt so seriously and integrate more successfully.
 

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Central Manchester quiet today, Locked down near the site of course. Nuff disruptions to regular peoples as youd expect. The day time action has been Southside of the city. Controlled explosion and multiple armed raids so far.

Gonna be some hungry youngens round there cos of this attention.

My wife works at Central Hospital. I went to give blood early on. Not much else I could think of doing.

Still no credible info on the exact details.
 

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I love how we talk about "moderate muslims" :heh:

Mike Pence as an extreme christian is probably a SUPER moderate muslim :pachaha:

People understand moderate muslims as something analogous to the average christian here in Europe. But it's not because the Middle East as a whole is way more religious and sectarian than Europe right now.

Liberal muslims might compare to moderate (as in being the average) European christians but moderate muslims are way more similar to reactionary catholic groups for example
 
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