Farrakhan - Boycott Christmas 2015

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:russ: what's the source for this?
It's all there. Take some time to read it

The following chart from the PEW Research Center supports my argument (below) about poor people buying what is available and are not, as the myth argues, foolishly choosing to waste money while missing out on opportunities to improve themselves. This PEW chart shows how colonial “trinkets” (as Fanon described them) are far more affordable than what is needed for the material improvements.
Y'all are lookin' for excuses NOT to support the cause instead of reasons TO. We don't own the infastructure in the US for every dollar for the cause to be spent with Blacks. And you can't point out every flaw of every leader and use that as an excuse. They all have faults. Some are former adulturers, drug addicts, etc. If you're waitin' for the perfect man or woman to drop the knowledge, you'll be waitin' forever.


Much. 5, 10, 15% of profits is a big deal to most companies. Some of these retailers don't get into the black until holiday season. Trust, they wouldn't spend money advertisin' to us if our money didn't count. We spend. We go in debt to spend.
Nah, this plan has worked in the pass. Read up on the bus boycotts. Boycottin' is about the only thing that HAS worked for us. Beggin', marchin', protestin', lootin' has never accomplished anything. These folks only understand money. Until we hit them pockets, it's business as usual.

It would be nowhere near 15% and no it would not make much difference in their bottom line. These are worldwide companies, loosing a very small percentage of their customers for one day won't hurt them. They'll just spend the marketing dollars elsewhere. Hell we would probably be offset by the racist whites who would spend more on that day to show their disdain for black folks.

And this isn't at all comparable to the bus boycotts. Those were aimed at a specific industry in which black people were a very large part maybe even majority of customers, and it had a specific goal of changing a policy in place. And it still took over a year and plenty of support from non blacks before it was succssful.

Not comparable at all.
 

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Really?

You skipped over me sayin', "We don't own the infrastructure in the US for every dollar for the cause to be spent with Blacks"

And what he spent to attend the biggest event we've had in 20 years is nothin' compared to what he's askin' us not to spend.

It's only unrealistic to folks of your mindset, scared or simply unwilling to make the necessary changes.

Whoever the messenger is, whatever the message is, some folks will only look for excuses.

The messege is sound. It's worked in the past. Stop lookin' for faults in the messenger and study the history this concept is based on.

:russell:

Someone asked me for my solutions and I posted them. You choosing to see what you want to see and interpret what you see subjectively.

All I stated was the facts. Maybe Luis should've taken us not OWNING into consideration before he had people PAY TO COME from across the nation to see/hear him give the same speech.

If you knew this, I'm sure he or someone in his circle does. You're minimize just how contradictory his message and presence was last weekend. He literally empowered the oppressor financially while attacking them verbally :mjlol:

He's like a candle in the sun....
 

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It would be nowhere near 15% and no it would not make much difference in their bottom line. These are worldwide companies, loosing a very small percentage of their customers for one day won't hurt them. They'll just spend the marketing dollars elsewhere. Hell we would probably be offset by the racist whites who would spend more on that day to show their disdain for black folks.

And this isn't at all comparable to the bus boycotts. Those were aimed at a specific industry in which black people were a very large part maybe even majority of customers, and it had a specific goal of changing a policy in place. And it still took over a year and plenty of support from non blacks before it was succssful.

Not comparable at all.
5% is a lot. Whatever it would be, it would hurt. And we really wouldn't know how much until we did it. But seems like most of us are lookin' for excuses rather than takin' action.

Of course it's comparable. It may not be just one industry, but much of it is. Retail.

The goal is specific. Same goal as the bus boycotts. Respect the Black dollar or lose it.

And just like some whites helped slaves escape, assisted in the bus boycotts, marched, etc., there'd be some that might support this cause. Maybe enough to offset those racists you speak of.

It took a year because bus ridership is consistent, 5 days a week, all year. Retail companies rely heavily on Christmas shoppin'. The affect would be felt immediately. Again, many retail companies don't get into the black until holiday season. I'm not sure you realize how much these companies count on Christams shoppin'.
 

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:russell:

Someone asked me for my solutions and I posted them. You choosing to see what you want to see and interpret what you see subjectively.

All I stated was the facts. Maybe Luis should've taken us not OWNING into consideration before he had people PAY TO COME from across the nation to see/hear him give the same speech.

If you knew this, I'm sure he or someone in his circle does. You're minimize just how contradictory his message and presence was last weekend. He literally empowered the oppressor financially while attacking them verbally :mjlol:

He's like a candle in the sun....
This is bad debatin' 101. You're attackin' the messenger.

How else does he get the message out? TV, owned by whites? YouTube, owend by whites? White folks own the media. What would you have him do?
 

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5% is a lot. Whatever it would be, it would hurt. And we really wouldn't know how much until we did it. But seems like most of us are lookin' for excuses rather than takin' action.

Of course it's comparable. It may not be just one industry, but much of it is. Retail.

The goal is specific. Same goal as the bus boycotts. Respect the Black dollar or lose it.

And just like some whites helped slaves escape, assisted in the bus boycotts, marched, etc., there'd be some that might support this cause. Maybe enough to offset those racists you speak of.

It took a year because bus ridership is consistent, 5 days a week, all year. Retail companies rely heavily on Christmas shoppin'. The affect would be felt immediately. Again, many retail companies don't get into the black until holiday season. I'm not sure you realize how much these companies count on Christams shoppin'.

You're trying to reason with a Moorish agent. These are the same nikkas you'll find that'll deny the trans Atlantic slave trade. These same nikkas will also try to claim nationality in an Arabic controlled land that hasn't been controlled by native black people since 1492 to claim that they don't have to pay parking tickets. These same nikkas will also try to tell you that "Ethiopia" means a land divided. These same nikkas will be black as night talking about they "Asiatic".

Don't be surprised when he tries to derail a smart idea with mumbling bullshyt and nothing concrete. It isn't part of their agenda.
 

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This is bad debatin' 101. You're attackin' the messenger.

How else does he get the message out? TV, owned by whites? YouTube, owend by whites? White folks own the media. What would you have him do?


Pay attention to details

During the breakfast club interview he stated that marching and protesting was irrelevant than plugged his million man 2 right after....


None of that is required in 2015. As a matter of fact you can accept my challenge and scroll back two pages and read my suggestions on what to do.

You can copy the quote and I'll be glad to debate you on any of my suggestions you don't agree with.

You're trying to reason with a Moorish agent. These are the same nikkas you'll find that'll deny the trans Atlantic slave trade. These same nikkas will also try to claim nationality in an Arabic controlled land that hasn't been controlled by native black people since 1492 to claim that they don't have to pay parking tickets. These same nikkas will also try to tell you that "Ethiopia" means a land divided. These same nikkas will be black as night talking about they "Asiatic".

Don't be surprised when he tries to derail a smart idea with mumbling bullshyt and nothing concrete. It isn't part of their agenda.

Interesting..


You call him a Moorish agent yet you accept your message from an NOI agent and get mad when others point out that he's an agent and his message is filled with contradictions :jbhmm:
 
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5% is a lot. Whatever it would be, it would hurt. And we really wouldn't know how much until we did it. But seems like most of us are lookin' for excuses rather than takin' action.

Of course it's comparable. It may not be just one industry, but much of it is. Retail.

The goal is specific. Same goal as the bus boycotts. Respect the Black dollar or lose it.

And just like some whites helped slaves escape, assisted in the bus boycotts, marched, etc., there'd be some that might support this cause. Maybe enough to offset those racists you speak of.

It took a year because bus ridership is consistent, 5 days a week, all year. Retail companies rely heavily on Christmas shoppin'. The affect would be felt immediately. Again, many retail companies don't get into the black until holiday season. I'm not sure you realize how much these companies count on Christams shoppin'.
For Walmart perhaps, but for small businesses one customer is huge.

I would stop for lunch on my bike route 2 or 3 times a week at this one spot and spend 12 to 15 dollars on lunch.
12 x 3 (36)
15 x 3 (45)

x 4 weeks

144 to 180.

They raised the price of their smoothies and I started going elsewhere, but still passed them cause they were on my route that I ride.
3 months later they were out of business.

Assuming they lost only myself and just two other regular customers like myself thats 500 a month that they had come to rely on that suddenly is not there.

So while major corporations can afford to take entire years where they are in the red, most small businesses will simply go under if they lose regular support. (I know my above example is anecdotal and other factors could have assisted in the restaurants failure, just providing a real world model of something I witnessed)

Your spending or refusal to spend makes a tremendous difference on the local level.
 

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its a start, but wit less than 1% of the wealth they wouldnt miss us like that

and all the non-blacks would buy extra gifts to soften the blow if blacks did a quick boycott...

theres only one logical thing to do, create a black economy and support it...

that would be a real boycott, every single day of the year...
 

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Lmfaoo nah real talk we should be producing white tees or something


Word.......I mean if you think about all the folks who eat something like eggs. Something like eggs man....I'm talking eggs (Iverson voice)

You telling me those black hundred millionaires ain't hollered at these black farmers WHO ARE HURTING, to produce a product, their own eggs that they can say "hey this is a black farm coalitions product?"

I mean I'm just another dude on the internet. Of decent intellect. You mean to tell me that someone with resources is scared to compete in a space for a product that people use every fukking second??????? Or has not even thought about this?

They want to make vodka for people who need to focus, not splurge on getting more intoxicated. If you can convince and market alcohol to kids and adults you can sell anything.

Nah man there's more money to be made just talking in circles and telling you want to hear so you can clap and feel good and feel like you're doing something positive by listening. No Major action is involved in change. Marching is running in place at this point. Rally up funds behind an idea. That's what i thought Farrakhan would do the other day. I mean I know that whole press tour wasn't a vanity tour. I mean I know there is a solid business structure on standby with the resources of a million men right?
 

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You have such a negative and pessimistic perspective on our community that you don't realize that these programs you're complaining about not being out there are out there.

Again, stop reading only what you want to read. I never said the programs aren't out there, I was asking was Farrakhan providing the needed classes.

No, I'm not pessimistic nor negative, I just don't eat out the hand(s) of any man just because he looks like me. stop being a sheep and do some shyt YOU feel you should do. foh
 

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Again, stop reading only what you want to read. I never said the programs aren't out there, I was asking was Farrakhan providing the needed classes.

No, I'm not pessimistic nor negative, I just don't eat out the hand(s) of any man just because he looks like me. stop being a sheep and do some shyt YOU feel you should do. foh
Yeah, fukk boycotting Christmas, I'm just gonna have to boycott your nonsense posts from here on out. :pacspit:
 

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The stupidity in this thread is too much. If being a c00n means finding this plan sloppy and unrealistic then calling the biggest c00n ever. Anyone who seriously believes a nationwide boycott(even if it succeeds) will affect the government shouldn't talk anything about economics in the real world...
 
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