Filed and understood.Lol at anyone going back and forth with @beans the same nikkas that said that Ronda Rousey could beat Mayweather last year
Fitzmagic or Fitztragic?The Best Chance To Win. The Official 2016 New York Jets Season Thread
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godkiller
"We are the Fury"
Watching Mike and Mike and both Greenie and Golic are hilarious. Golic said even though Fitz threw 6 INT's "He still gives the Jets the best opportunity to win."
Wow, this can't be anything but racism. Fitz played the worst game in terms of A/YA since 1960 against Kansas City yesterday:
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Further, in his last 4 games, Fitz has played like the worse QB in the league. He was terrible Week 1, terrible in 2015 Buffalo and terrible against the Chiefs. The only game wherein Fitz played well was the one where half of Buffalo's defensive core was out.
Paradise50
Superstar
Bowles didn't care if they kept Fitz. That came straight from Woody
Also
at Fitz playing like shyt in September...usually this bum ass cac wait until the end of October or early November to do this he got that money and decided to finesse y'all earlier than normal
Also
at Fitz playing like shyt in September...usually this bum ass cac wait until the end of October or early November to do this he got that money and decided to finesse y'all earlier than normal 
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
No one could imagine such a thing besides you.
Who in the WORLD tied cism to this? The game was close until 6 minutes left in the game and pick 5 came. fitz threw an int in five striaght Jets possessions. Two the red zone. Geno had an opportunity to get in the game base on those things?
Yes....finding out if Geno or Petty is better for this team than knowing Fitz is trash.
This is all a Woody decision to bring him back in, buying into cism Jets fans and a Jets media who fawned over this bearded bum who lives off of his receivers catch radius.
storyteller
Veteran
No one could imagine such a thing besides you.
The game was close until 6 minutes left in the game and pick 5 came. fitz threw an int in five striaght Jets possessions. Two the red zone. Geno had an opportunity to get in the game base on those things?
Yes....finding out if Geno or Petty is better for this team than knowing Fitz is trash.
This is all a Woody decision to bring him back in, buying into cism Jets fans and a Jets media who fawned over this bearded bum who lives off of his receivers catch radius.
uhmmmm...
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
Unlike @NYC Rebel , who knows what he's talking about, @beanz doesn't know football and should hence be ignored at this point. His arguments are remedial and he changes the subject to sophomorific stuff like, "You have an emotional attachment", as though he doesn't given his constant argument against benching Fitz and starting another QB.
PFF just gave Fitzpatrick their worse QB rating ever:
"What’s truly remarkable about Fitzpatrick’s performance is that it wasn’t a product of overwhelming pressure. Fitzpatrick was pressured on just 10 of 47 dropbacks, which was one of the lowest rates in the league this week. Only the Broncos’ Trevor Siemian and the Giants’ Eli Manning were pressured less often than the 21.3 percent of dropbacks that Fitzpatrick felt heat on, and he was actually a little better when he was pressured than when he was just allowed to implode all by his own from a clean pocket."
PFF just gave Fitzpatrick their worse QB rating ever:
"What’s truly remarkable about Fitzpatrick’s performance is that it wasn’t a product of overwhelming pressure. Fitzpatrick was pressured on just 10 of 47 dropbacks, which was one of the lowest rates in the league this week. Only the Broncos’ Trevor Siemian and the Giants’ Eli Manning were pressured less often than the 21.3 percent of dropbacks that Fitzpatrick felt heat on, and he was actually a little better when he was pressured than when he was just allowed to implode all by his own from a clean pocket."
storyteller
Veteran
I'd be cool with Petty getting reps, seeing if we can somehow flip some of our older value players who deserve a playoff spot (I feel awful for Marshall...that dude deserves to be in the post season) and tanking. But we know Fitz AND Geno are trash, if we're gonna test the waters on a young QB, go with the guy with the contract that isn't expiring and get in the full tank 100%.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Jets fan cism isn't me saying Woody has it.
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
We know Fitz is trash but we don't know about Geno. Smith matched Fitz's average statistical game in 2015 coming in cold and looked good. Petty meanwhile we haven't seen and we have signed to 1 more year anyway. Geno should start the rest of the season and then we should draft a QB depending on what happens. Petty can compete next year.
storyteller
Veteran
Where we disagree is that I don't think Geno needs more opportunity to show us something. He was getting reps with the WR's and coaching staff while Fitz held out but the WR's wanted Fitz back and FO wound up bumping the one year offer a smidgeon to hang on to him. The preseason Geno had wasn't inspiring either. He'd have to be significantly better than Fitz to warrant resigning as a starter next season (I don't see a scenario where we'd resign him if he still needs development while two recently draft developing QB's are on the roster). With Petty, having him locked up is the reason to give him a shot imho. If he does well, he's cheap and we can sign a vet back-up to keep pressure on him to continue progressing while we wait for Hack to become whatever he becomes (I'm guessing he'll bust but only time will tell). I don't want to go into next offseason with two young developmental QB's that are all question marks, at least seeing some of Petty could give us an idea of what we've got and how far away he is from being serviceable going into the offseason.
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storyteller
Veteran
Jets fan cism isn't me saying Woody has it.
Let me explain my post better for you
Woody also demanded that Bowles keep Fitz out there after picks 3,4,5 and 6 as well as the WR's to voice their hope that Fitz would be back breh. (this was sarcasm)
It's not cism (I didn't apply this to any individual entity, you randomly inferred it was about Woody and I have no clue why), we have 4 terrible QB's. Mac should be getting flamed for that, Bowles should be called out for leaving Fitz out there, Gailey needs some pressure for the Red Zone offense being trash too, Fitz and Geno shouldn't be worth arguing over (aka we're not in a QB mess because of racist fans or anyone else's cism. We're in it because of the failures of our Front Office, Coaching Staff and the players themselves but instead of calling them all out for their failures, we're arguing about the fans which is misdirected and won't solve a damned thing)...they're both garbage (if Geno showed any promise he'd have gotten in that game), neither helps us and our only hope is that the defense reaches God-mode which won't happen unless Revis recaptures his prime. (and this is just me flat out saying our situation is hopeless thanks to the aforementioned organizational failures).
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
I infered it to our fan base. Woody is clueless and buys into media pressure and listens to our fan base. YOU applied that to Woody. I applied that to our fan base.
I have no problem with Gailey play calling. He's calling games around a limited qb that has no arm, decides who he is going to throw to pre snap and no longer has BM there to bail him out on jump balls.
Idiot Jet fans really expected BM to produce like last year. He's 30 plus. I knew it wouldn't repeat itself.
Gailey is coaching around this trash.
The coaches and front office are playing around Woody's decision to bring back Fitz....the same man who thought the fans wanted Tebow.
Don't blame Gailey for Fitz ed zone mishaps.
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
The staff's opinion doesn't necessarily mean anything. Staff is wrong about players all the time. Pointedly our coaching staff and FO missed on (probable) franchise QBs Wentz and Dak this year, so it's obvious our staff cannot judge QB's ability well. This deficiency and others like it are why NFL staff get fired so much. Geno Smith has shown, statistically, that he can play as well as Fitz with projection to play better.
Moving on, it's still better to start Geno with a chance to play better than Fitz than to not start him and accept Fitz playing like a bottom level QB. Your argument for Fitz over Geno is like arguing for Hoyer over Osweiler. The same tape and potential differentials between Fitz and Geno as between Hoyer and Osweiler.
Finally, Petty was never close to beating Geno or Fitz in practice. There's no reason we should start him above Geno. Your argument for starting Petty over Geno is tantamount to starting Tampa Bay's 3rd string QB over Mike Glennon should Jameis Winston get injured. That's preposterous. Petty is a 4th round bum until he shows something in practice.
storyteller
Veteran
No I didn't, I didn't apply it to anyone. You chose to read it that way and now after having it explained to you, are still choosing to imagine things.
That's a fair argument, but with BM, Decker, Enunwa emerging and Forte; I'd like to see less calls for the "lob it up to Brandon" strategy. Granted, you're right that our QB's probably can't do much more so I should cut him slack.
Woody didn't draft Hackenburg though and the coaching staff could have been way more vehement that they didn't need Fitz than the lukewarm Geno commentary they offered. I'm not excusing Fitz, but everyone knows he's trash and instead of trying something different, they just let this dude throw into triple coverage over and over (not just on the INT's but the couple of drops scattered in there). At least for the first couple of Red Zone trips, there was enough time not to go for desperation heaves imo, especially when everyone knows the QB limitations.