Gripes with modern cinema.

[ViShawn]

Is annoyed annoyed with modern films? They just don't do it for me anymore outside of older films or A24, which IMO actually takes risk in storytelling and newer writers and directors.

Everything else seems like it's just a sequel or a Marvel movie (which I'm a fan of in moderation). Let's not forget that Netflix brings out watered down "content" and lump a reality show with a C level horror film they churned out.

I know I sound like a movie snob but whatever. You probably wouldn't have films like Forrest Gump, Collateral, Lost in Translation films created by the major movie studios nowadays unless they were an indy film and picked up by A24.

Also - the average moviegoer WILL watch other stories outside of sequels and superhero films. The success of Barbie and Oppenheimer attest to that.

 

[Neuromancer]

Also - the average moviegoer WILL watch other stories outside of sequels and superhero films. The success of Barbie and Oppenheimer attest to that.

A lot of people can't admit that the Hollywood cinema dikks they suck can't tell good stories anymore.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

I don’t know breh….

There’s been over 200 movies this year and only 3 been Marvel movies

(Since you named Marvel)

Also, they do a lot of movies it’s just y’all don’t go see them or support them

Why ain’t yall go see Jawan?

 

[YvrzTrvly]

Ya there like five solid movies out or
coming out right now

 

[Neuromancer]

I don’t know breh….

There’s been over 200 movies this year and only 3 been Marvel movies

(Since you named Marvel)

Also, they do a lot of movies it’s just y’all don’t go see them or support them

Why ain’t yall go see Jawan?

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Matter fact….. Barbie and Oppenheimer are low hanging fruit


If the audience really wanted to prove a point……

They’d be other there in droves watching Napoleon

That should be getting Fast numbers

 

[ViShawn]

Matter fact….. Barbie and Oppenheimer are low hanging fruit


If the audience really wanted to prove a point……

They’d be other there in droves watching Napoleon

That should be getting Fast numbers

Well Napoleon was apparently mid...

 

[perfectblack999]

Didn’t Matt Damon or someone break down the root cause of this

 

[NinoBrown]

Quite simply put, the old guard of Hollywood is diminishing, by death or retirement and the new writing talents aren't able to take up the mantle in terms of storytelling.

Trashy hacks are getting the keys to the kingdom and ruining it for studios and media in general...

 

[Days of Future Piff]

One gripe I have is the overdependence on CGI instead of using practical effects and actual stuntwork.
Jackie Chan is a GOAT for actually doing all of his own stunts.

 

[MidniteJay]

One gripe I have is the overdependence on CGI instead of using practical effects and actual stuntwork.
Jackie Chan is a GOAT for actually doing all of his own stunts.

We probably won't get another like him in our life time or ever. Even Chinese cinema got seriously

 

[Lord Beasley]

These new "writers" are just like the generation they come from: lazy and entitled.

It will only get worse

 

[Piff Perkins]

I think the cinema is worse because the viewers are worse, and the writers are worse. We've bred a group of movie goers/viewers who aren't doing anything beyond consuming content, and these people don't give a fukk about art. They couldn't describe a human feeling they got from a film beyond "ok can't wait for the sequel/prequel."

There's also a constant push for films and television to adopt and regurgitate views/opinions of various social groups. I'd have no issue with this if the writing was halfway decent but instead it's constantly terrible. Clunky, blatantly forced, in-your-face and you can often tell which Tweets influenced the dialogue. Film being influenced by the times/social views is nothing new. Peep the cynicism and American disillusionment in 1970s cinema for instance. But compare that to today and you immediately sense an inability to write anything subtle, a refusal/inability to tackle controversial or opposing views, and nonstop child-like pandering. The audience wants simple shyt. And the audience is in a perpetual state of adolescence. We've gone from people debating the meaning of films to arguing over whether Spiderman would support [insert progressive political issue].

 

[Days of Future Piff]

We probably won't get another like him in our life time or ever. Even Chinese cinema got seriously

Facts...

Practical effects need to make a comeback in movies.

It blows my mind that makeup artists, puppeteers, costume designers, painters, and film editors were able to make effects this dope using zero CGI. These movies still look amazing today.

 

[MarcP]

They need to cut the budgets of these movies by like 75%. The Creator bombed and only made 100M at the box office but because they didn't spend 400 fukking million on production and marketing, it's going to be one of their most "successful" blockbuster film this year. It also looks better than 99% of the blockbusters that came out this year for a quarter of the price.

As long they keep spending 500M+ they're gonna keep milking IPs because it's the only way they know how to guarantee that a bunch of people are going to show up. Cut the budgets and let directors cook up. Use the pre-production period to actually map the shyt out. If half your movie has to be reshot in post, you fukked up. Stop doing that.

The biggest issue is that movie making has been a mature artform for damn near 60 years. Alien was 40 years ago. Terminator 2 was 30 years ago. Peak Jackie Chan was 30 years ago. Even newer shyt like The Raid was 12 years ago. All the cultural touchstones are old as shyt at this point. Trying to find new and compelling ways to make movies is getting harder. Even the novelty of the MCU format is old hat at this point. Hollywood is in need of another 70s golden era of new Goats just dropping fire. The problem with that happening is that those old legends inform the current language of film so much now that the new guys are just riffing on the shyt those guys already did.