Harvard Rated Asian-American Applicants Lower on Personality Traits, Lawsuit Says

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Harvard consistently rated Asian-American applicants lower than others on traits like “positive personality,” likability, courage, kindness and being “widely respected,” according to an analysis of more than 160,000 student records filed Friday by a group representing Asian-American students in a lawsuit against the university.

Asian-Americans scored higher than applicants of any other racial or ethnic group on admissions measures like test scores, grades and extracurricular activities, according to the analysis commissioned by a group that opposes all race-based admissions criteria. But the students’ personal ratings significantly dragged down their chances of being admitted, the analysis found.

The court documents, filed in federal court in Boston, also showed that Harvard conducted an internal investigation into its admissions policies in 2013 and found a bias against Asian-American applicants. But Harvard never made the findings public or acted on them.

Harvard, one of the most sought-after and selective universities in the country, admitted only 4.6 percent of its applicants this year. That has led to intense interest in the university’s closely guarded admissions process. Harvard had fought furiously over the last few months to keep secret the documents that were unsealed Friday.

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The findings come at a time when issues of race, ethnicity, admission, testing and equal access to education are confronting schools across the country, from selective public high schools like Stuyvesant High School in New York to elite private colleges. Many Ivy League schools, not just Harvard, have had similar ratios of Asian-American, black, white and Hispanic students for years, despite fluctuations in application rates and qualifications, raising questions about how those numbers are arrived at and whether they represent unspoken quotas.

Harvard and the group suing it have presented sharply divergent views of what constitutes a fair admissions process.

“It turns out that the suspicions of Asian-American alumni, students and applicants were right all along,” the group, Students for Fair Admissions, said in a court document laying out the analysis. “Harvard today engages in the same kind of discrimination and stereotyping that it used to justify quotas on Jewish applicants in the 1920s and 1930s.”

Harvard vigorously disagreed on Friday, saying that its own expert analysis showed no discrimination and that seeking diversity is a valuable part of student selection. The university lashed out at the founder of Students for Fair Admissions, Edward Blum, accusing him of using Harvard to replay a previous challenge to affirmative action in college admissions, Fisher v. the University of Texas at Austin. In its 2016 decision in that case, the Supreme Court ruled that race could be used as one of many factors in admissions.

“Thorough and comprehensive analysis of the data and evidence makes clear that Harvard College does not discriminate against applicants from any group, including Asian-Americans, whose rate of admission has grown 29 percent over the last decade,” Harvard said in a statement. “Mr. Blum and his organization’s incomplete and misleading data analysis paint a dangerously inaccurate picture of Harvard College’s whole-person admissions process by omitting critical data and information factors.”

In court papers, Harvard said that a statistical analysis could not capture the many intangible factors that go into Harvard admissions. Harvard said that the plaintiffs’ expert, Peter Arcidiacono, a Duke University economist, had mined the data to his advantage by taking out applicants who were favored because they were legacies, athletes, the children of staff and the like, including Asian-Americans. In response, the plaintiffs said their expert had factored out these applicants because he wanted to look at the pure effect of race on admissions, unclouded by other factors.

Both sides filed papers Friday asking for summary judgment, an immediate ruling in their favor. If the judge denies those requests, as is likely, a trial has been scheduled for October. If it goes on to the Supreme Court, it could upend decades of affirmative action policies at colleges and universities across the country.

In Friday’s court papers, the plaintiffs describe a shaping process that begins before students even apply, when Harvard buys data about PSAT scores and G.P.A.s, according to the plaintiffs’ motion. It is well documented that these scores vary by race.

The plaintiffs’ analysis was based on data extracted from the records of more than 160,000 applicants who applied for admission over six cycles from 2000 to 2015.

hey compare Harvard’s treatment of Asian-Americans with its well-documented campaign to reduce the growing number of Jews being admitted to Harvard in the 1920s. Until then, applicants had been admitted on academic merit. To avoid adopting a blatant quota system, Harvard introduced subjective criteria like character, personality and promise. The plaintiffs call this the “original sin of holistic admissions.”

according to Harvard’s website.
 

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There are over 2 1/2 billion Chinese and Indians. If we're going to declare we're a global university engine, there aint no way we can have American students trying to compete with with the world's academic candidates.
 

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It's obvious what this is really about..
The guy who is really behind the case is Edward Blum. He's a neocon who ran for Congress in 1990, and felt he lost because there were too many Black people in the district (the district had been gerrymandered to ensure a Black majority).

Since then he's spent his entire life trying to destroy anything that helps non-White people. That's all he does - he doesn't have a job, he just gets people to file court cases (he's not a lawyer himself).

His first lawsuit was one that would stop states from tailoring redistricting to increase minority representation.

He's the guy behind the cases that gutted the Voting Rights Act so pre-approval was not required and southern states could jump to racist voting regulations again.

He's the guy behind the University of Texas case where he tried to keep them from taking race into account in their admissions.

He tried to change Texas's districting rules so that minors, felons, and immigrants didn't count when counting how many people were in the district.

He's looking to sue UNC and the University of Wisconsin for their admission policies next.


Edward Blum - Wikipedia
 

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The guy who is really behind the case is Edward Blum.
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In court papers, Harvard said that a statistical analysis could not capture the many intangible factors that go into Harvard admissions. Harvard said that the plaintiffs’ expert, Peter Arcidiacono, a Duke University economist, had mined the data to his advantage by taking out applicants who were favored because they were legacies, athletes, the children of staff and the like, including Asian-Americans. In response, the plaintiffs said their expert had factored out these applicants because he wanted to look at the pure effect of race on admissions, unclouded by other factors.]

The "intangibles" are the ones that are used to protect white admits and boost their numbers, acknowledging this would defeat what this lawsuit is really about which is the idea that Harvard is accepting blacks and latinos who should not be admitted. I am sure lots of white numbers are in those applicants in the legacies and children of staff.

Consider the economics of a top school, using Harvard College as an example. Last week it was revealed that more than 30 percent of surveyed members of the Class of 2021 are legacy admissions. In a typical year, Harvard’s operating costs are $4.7 billion. Undergraduate tuition covers only 6.4 percent of that total, and graduate tuition covers only 11.2 percent. Federal grants were $842 million in fiscal 2016, but much of that money is absorbed in research expenses (and that sum may decline under Donald Trump’s administration).

RELATED: Stop Bashing Harvard's Legacy Students

Basically, billions of dollars in expenses need to be covered each year. Donations -- and the return on investing the donation-based endowment -- are essential for making ends meet. Legacy admissions tend to come from wealthy families, and from families that have a tradition of donating to Harvard, if only to help their children get in the door. More legacy admissions will mean more resources at Harvard’s disposal. In short, why not expand the profit centers of America’s top universities

This is from Bloomberg, 30% legacy admits and these dudes just said let's not consider them because a lot of them are white obviously
 

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The "intangibles" are the ones that are used to protect white admits and boost their numbers, acknowledging this would defeat what this lawsuit is really about which is the idea that Harvard is accepting blacks and latinos who should not be admitted. I am sure lots of white numbers are in those applicants in the legacies and children of staff.



This is from Bloomberg, 30% legacy admits and these dudes just said let's not consider them because a lot of them are white obviously


If Asians get their way literally no one would get into any college until Asian applicants ran out.
 

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The guy who is really behind the case is Edward Blum. He's a neocon who ran for Congress in 1990, and felt he lost because there were too many Black people in the district (the district had been gerrymandered to ensure a Black majority).

Since then he's spent his entire life trying to destroy anything that helps non-White people. That's all he does - he doesn't have a job, he just gets people to file court cases (he's not a lawyer himself).

His first lawsuit was one that would stop states from tailoring redistricting to increase minority representation.

He's the guy behind the cases that gutted the Voting Rights Act so pre-approval was not required and southern states could jump to racist voting regulations again.

He's the guy behind the University of Texas case where he tried to keep them from taking race into account in their admissions.

He tried to change Texas's districting rules so that minors, felons, and immigrants didn't count when counting how many people were in the district.

He's looking to sue UNC and the University of Wisconsin for their admission policies next.


Edward Blum - Wikipedia

I know who dude is :skip:
 
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