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Oy Vey! Can the mods please slide this thread?
 

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The fact that the abolition of private property is discussed in it and we have imminent domain laws in place is a sign that we are moving away from a capitalist system.

Aren't you the same guy who suggested "The Last mogul" on netflicks? lol You do this in ever thread. Like somehow information can't be gained unless it is read. That's your own personal hang up though. Matter of fact is that your excuse for not listening to the hours of audio on the CROWN from the researcher of forty years on the subject? I'll say it again, that audio shows why so many of your beliefs are obsolete. Including this thread.


You're not making any sense. Trading is what makes the world go round. He who rules the seas rules the world, the banks just facilitate the system. When we want to shut someone down we hit them with trade embargoes. That's the real distribution that @The HONORABLE SKJ keeps going on about. He just doesn't see the full picture yet. Shut down the flow of trade/distribution of goods and everything shuts down. Shut down the money and we will go on continuing trading. I personally would rather have tangible goods that isn't fiat currency. This thought tells me that a world were man is free to trade and live off the land is real wealth while currency in any form is a way to take the wealth and replace it with worthless forms of currency. Which is exactly what they have done. If you don't pay up worthless currency they come and take your tangible goods.

Tell me who you think the ruling elite is. Also the system gave you these various methods whether it be capitalism, communism, fascism etc. You can at least be honest and admit that these system are imposed on you and taught to you. What's the point? Well, just because you are in the system doesn't mean that you have to agree with it or fight for it. It certainly doesn't mean that it's the best method simply because you are an American in the twenty first century who prospers from it. The fact that you acknowledge that there is a ruling elite should tell you that you really don't have a say in the matter. Could it be that there is indeed an alternative method that the ruling elite hasn't taught you yet? One they don't want you to know because it would make you the ruling elite? They were the ruling elite and came up with these systems, the systems themselves didn't make them the ruling elite. Remember that!

What do you own again? I would assume you really don't own anything but you think that you do. If my assumption is correct (which it is) then you have no real defense for capitalism. Do you even own that car in your avi? You sure? Because I know that if you get a ticket and don't pay it they can come and take it whenever they want. If you own it, then how can they come and take it or put a boot on it? You sure you own that home? See my point above about eminent domain. Do you own the land the home sits on? Do you own the mineral rights to the land? If you don't pay your property tax, don't they come and take your home even if it's paid off? You sure you own it and capitalism is the greatest thing? You sure you aren't really just a slave with a longer leash than your ancestors had, who's just been taught he's free?


Whoever owns a stake in The Federal Reserve bank is the ruling elite. I'm pragmatic ...currency creates a standard for trade. Money is easier to track and easier to distribute. I'm not really trying to lug around gold coins or fruits in exchange for travel to broker deals. Sorry that's not effective.... Tell me more on how you propose to go back to a paperless system ?

If you want to change the system then go ahead and be my guest even maniacal Hitler had his supporters so shouldn't be hard to persuade other people such as yourself. I like the system, i'm a part of it as a contributor and benefactor. This capitalist system has enabled social ascension for me and my future offspring without having to wait 250 years+
You don't have a say in the matter neither....you won't change anything globally or nationally maybe individually you can unplug and have a farm/live on organic food.
I don't want to be the ruling elite that's where you and I differ .... I've already accepted it and still continue pursuing my goals ...I don't let that hinder my own potential

It's not perfect but it works. I'm free and thankful for the things Western capitalism has brought me....do I agree with how we got there ? Nope but the end sometimes justifies the means.
If all my possessions and wealth was somehow taken from me...then whose fault is it ?I'm not your average joe looking to shift blame and make excuses. I'm accountable for my own failures
and so should you. All I'm hearing is "oh I can't cut it in this system so I wan't out" You whole attitude just stinks of failure, resentment and rebellion and i'm willing to bet in terms of material wealth you don't have much. I'm grateful for life each day , you sound frustrated.....


I actually love roads, access to water and electricity, multiple food sources, innovative products and free information as well as all the business opportunities and impact I have on other peoples lives when they succeed .....so off course I'd fight for it. Go ahead tell us your alternative maybe you can enlighten us all on who this system would benefit us.....
 

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what could have been a good thread got ruined by a capitalism debate with someone too blinded by the present material illusions to understand the bigger picture
Whoever owns a stake in The Federal Reserve bank is the ruling elite. I'm pragmatic ...currency creates a standard for trade. Money is easier to track and easier to distribute. I'm not really trying to lug around gold coins or fruits in exchange for travel to broker deals. Sorry that's not effective.... Tell me more on how you propose to go back to a paperless system ?

If you want to change the system then go ahead and be my guest even maniacal Hitler had his supporters so shouldn't be hard to persuade other people such as yourself. I like the system, i'm a part of it as a contributor and benefactor. This capitalist system has enabled social ascension for me and my future offspring without having to wait 250 years+
You don't have a say in the matter neither....you won't change anything globally or nationally maybe individually you can unplug and have a farm/live on organic food.
I don't want to be the ruling elite that's where you and I differ .... I've already accepted it and still continue pursuing my goals ...I don't let that hinder my own potential

It's not perfect but it works. I'm free and thankful for the things Western capitalism has brought me....do I agree with how we got there ? Nope but the end sometimes justifies the means.
If all my possessions and wealth was somehow taken from me...then whose fault is it ?I'm not your average joe looking to shift blame and make excuses. I'm accountable for my own failures
and so should you. All I'm hearing is "oh I can't cut it in this system so I wan't out" You whole attitude just stinks of failure, resentment and rebellion and i'm willing to bet in terms of material wealth you don't have much. I'm grateful for life each day , you sound frustrated.....


I actually love roads, access to water and electricity, multiple food sources, innovative products and free information as well as all the business opportunities and impact I have on other peoples lives when they succeed .....so off course I'd fight for it. Go ahead tell us your alternative maybe you can enlighten us all on who this system would benefit us.....

you sound like a slave who has accepted his circumstances
 

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The fact that the abolition of private property is discussed in it and we have imminent domain laws in place is a sign that we are moving away from a capitalist system.

Aren't you the same guy who suggested "The Last mogul" on netflicks? lol You do this in ever thread. Like somehow information can't be gained unless it is read. That's your own personal hang up though. Matter of fact is that your excuse for not listening to the hours of audio on the CROWN from the researcher of forty years on the subject? I'll say it again, that audio shows why so many of your beliefs are obsolete. Including this thread.


You're not making any sense. Trading is what makes the world go round. He who rules the seas rules the world, the banks just facilitate the system. When we want to shut someone down we hit them with trade embargoes. That's the real distribution that @The HONORABLE SKJ keeps going on about. He just doesn't see the full picture yet. Shut down the flow of trade/distribution of goods and everything shuts down. Shut down the money and we will go on continuing trading. I personally would rather have tangible goods that isn't fiat currency. This thought tells me that a world were man is free to trade and live off the land is real wealth while currency in any form is a way to take the wealth and replace it with worthless forms of currency. Which is exactly what they have done. If you don't pay up worthless currency they come and take your tangible goods.

Tell me who you think the ruling elite is. Also the system gave you these various methods whether it be capitalism, communism, fascism etc. You can at least be honest and admit that these system are imposed on you and taught to you. What's the point? Well, just because you are in the system doesn't mean that you have to agree with it or fight for it. It certainly doesn't mean that it's the best method simply because you are an American in the twenty first century who prospers from it. The fact that you acknowledge that there is a ruling elite should tell you that you really don't have a say in the matter. Could it be that there is indeed an alternative method that the ruling elite hasn't taught you yet? One they don't want you to know because it would make you the ruling elite? They were the ruling elite and came up with these systems, the systems themselves didn't make them the ruling elite. Remember that!

What do you own again? I would assume you really don't own anything but you think that you do. If my assumption is correct (which it is) then you have no real defense for capitalism. Do you even own that car in your avi? You sure? Because I know that if you get a ticket and don't pay it they can come and take it whenever they want. If you own it, then how can they come and take it or put a boot on it? You sure you own that home? See my point above about eminent domain. Do you own the land the home sits on? Do you own the mineral rights to the land? If you don't pay your property tax, don't they come and take your home even if it's paid off? You sure you own it and capitalism is the greatest thing? You sure you aren't really just a slave with a longer leash than your ancestors had, who's just been taught he's free?
what could have been a good thread got ruined by a capitalism debate with someone too blinded by the present material illusions to understand the bigger picture


you sound like a slave who has accepted his circumstances



I'm a content business person whose employees earn 7 figures each.... I'm a slave to my ambition and you sound broke and like a victim


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another racist thread....focus on yourself, if jews can do it you can too. It is not what they are doing it is what you are doing to yourself. you buy instead of investing.
 

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another racist thread....focus on yourself, if jews can do it you can too. It is not what they are doing it is what you are doing to yourself. you buy instead of investing.
That is a half truth because yes, its true Jews work with each other, and invest in each other, so the money is always circulating in their community BUT, they also do things that others can't because they use religion as their money maker. For instance the trademark for kosher foods makes TONS of money for the Jewish community but, a lot of the foods that are forced to use it, don't really have anything to do with jewish food. When I learned about that hustle, I was amazed how religion can be used to make so much money for a small group. Most of the food you buy will have that trademark, and Jews get a check every time a food is sold with the symbol. This is the symbol:
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I think when you speak of Jews you really have to speak about two different types. The Jews who grew up in the religion but, they are not radical about it. The other group is radical about it, and do all types of slick hustles(good, and bad) to get money, and have control of their group. They essentially use being Jewish as a con to get money, and control over resources of the world. It's actually a slick con when you think about it, but, still foul.
 

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Whoever owns a stake in The Federal Reserve bank is the ruling elite. I'm pragmatic ...currency creates a standard for trade. Money is easier to track and easier to distribute. I'm not really trying to lug around gold coins or fruits in exchange for travel to broker deals. Sorry that's not effective.... Tell me more on how you propose to go back to a paperless system ?

If you want to change the system then go ahead and be my guest even maniacal Hitler had his supporters so shouldn't be hard to persuade other people such as yourself. I like the system, i'm a part of it as a contributor and benefactor. This capitalist system has enabled social ascension for me and my future offspring without having to wait 250 years+
You don't have a say in the matter neither....you won't change anything globally or nationally maybe individually you can unplug and have a farm/live on organic food.
I don't want to be the ruling elite that's where you and I differ .... I've already accepted it and still continue pursuing my goals ...I don't let that hinder my own potential

It's not perfect but it works. I'm free and thankful for the things Western capitalism has brought me....do I agree with how we got there ? Nope but the end sometimes justifies the means.
If all my possessions and wealth was somehow taken from me...then whose fault is it ?I'm not your average joe looking to shift blame and make excuses. I'm accountable for my own failures
and so should you. All I'm hearing is "oh I can't cut it in this system so I wan't out" You whole attitude just stinks of failure, resentment and rebellion and i'm willing to bet in terms of material wealth you don't have much. I'm grateful for life each day , you sound frustrated.....


I actually love roads, access to water and electricity, multiple food sources, innovative products and free information as well as all the business opportunities and impact I have on other peoples lives when they succeed .....so off course I'd fight for it. Go ahead tell us your alternative maybe you can enlighten us all on who this system would benefit us.....


What do you do?
 

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That is a half truth because yes, its true Jews work with each other, and invest in each other, so the money is always circulating in their community BUT, they also do things that others can't because they use religion as their money maker. For instance the trademark for kosher foods makes TONS of money for the Jewish community but, a lot of the foods that are forced to use it, don't really have anything to do with jewish food. When I learned about that hustle, I was amazed how religion can be used to make so much money for a small group. Most of the food you buy will have that trademark, and Jews get a check every time a food is sold with the symbol. This is the symbol:
ok.gif

ou.gif


I think when you speak of Jews you really have to speak about two different types. The Jews who grew up in the religion but, they are not radical about it. The other group is radical about it, and do all types of slick hustles(good, and bad) to get money, and have control of their group. They essentially use being Jewish as a con to get money, and control over resources of the world. It's actually a slick con when you think about it, but, still foul.


we have a 3 trillion dollar spending power, what have we done with it?
 

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we have a 3 trillion dollar spending power, what have we done with it?
Spent it with others. That's the major problem with us, we don't circulate our money with each other. We need to find a way to say "support black businesses" without saying"support black businesses", because when you make it known that your business is black you come into problems. From other blacks, and other races, who have issues with doing business with blacks, to others who with think its racists to say that. Jews can use religion, ethnic groups can use their distinct language, and culture, whites can just use being the majority. Black Americans have to find something that unites us, and we are proud of supporting it.

We just have so many within our group who are really our enemies, and try to shame us. If we want soul food, they find something wrong with that, and try to make it seem bad. If we like our plays, and music, they find ways to make those seem worthless. I could go on, and on, but, the real problem we have is we need to disconnect from our enemies who are in the community, and those who play to be our friends. We already know who the obvious enemy is but, once we get rid of the fake supporters, who really just want to do what others do, we will be able to grow the way we need to.

WE can star by supporting black owned businesses apps, that help you find a black business in your city. The thing is some of them might not be black owned because I know one company on there isn't, when I used the "Around the way" app when it was new. They may have fixed these issues now:
Black owned businesses(Black Tradelines):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blacktradelines.mobile

Around the Way:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.atw.aroundtheway
 
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one is the ring leader and one isnt...another reason negros are so lost...half do know who really runs shyt

That's zero part of the reason. We're lost cause we'll spend days talking like this. Nights putting money right in their pockets. And never actually do anything about it

We can know all we want. Knowing don't mean shyt if you ain't excuting plans and actions to actually change it
 
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