Heritage Foundation unveils “Project 2025” to dismantle the U.S. federal government in Trump’s second term

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the cac mamba

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Lol did you just find a way to bring gender concern trolling into THIS topic?

Man you are something else....
of course the Englishman inserts himself into the conversation. go bow to meghan markle, you fukkin dollar cone

 

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Lol did you just find a way to bring gender concern trolling into THIS topic?

Man you are something else....
why the fuxk are you even here? you're english :laff: you live 4,000 miles away

go curtsy for megan markle, you fukkin subject
 

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why the fuxk are you even here? you're english :laff: you live 4,000 miles away

go curtsy for megan markle, you fukkin subject
Methinks the cac doth protest too much.

At least you didn't mention trannies for a couple of posts.

Congrats. Lol.

You know we have this discussion over and over. I am at least black, which gives me more rights to post on this forum that you will ever have.
 

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If every person remaining in the executive branch is working for him, and they're the kind of people who, like him, don't listen to authorities they consider invalid, then what the fukk is the House going to do?

I know you have zero familiarity with the structure of the federal government, but checks and balances only work if the executive branch follows the rule of law. If Trump replaces everyone with the sort of people he wanted Mike Pence to be, then why would they give a flying fukk what the House has to say?

And that's not even taking election shenanigans into consideration.



He’s not dumb he’s just exposing himself @DEAD7 is dumb for being a Black Libertarian acting like Black people will fair well in such a society at this point. @the cac mamba is a bigoted piece of shyt cac that wants to go back to a society that will reinforce white supremacy.
 

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A history reminder that has been quietly swept under the carpet. There may be old threads on this. I think there's a coli member with a smedley butler handle.

The Business Plot (also called the Wall Street Putsch and The White House Putsch) was a political conspiracy in 1933, in the United States, to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and install Smedley Butler as dictator. Retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler asserted that wealthy businessmen were plotting to create a fascist veterans' organization with Butler as its leader and use it in a coup d'état to overthrow Roosevelt. In 1934, Butler testified under oath before the United States House of Representatives Special Committee on Un-American Activities (the "McCormack–dikkstein Committee") on these revelations. Although no one was prosecuted, the congressional committee final report said, "there is no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned, and might have been placed in execution when and if the financial backers deemed it expedient."

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The plot planned to install Brigadier General Smedley Butler as dictator of the United States.


Early in the committee's gathering of testimony most major news media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a "gigantic hoax".[5] When the committee's final report was released, the Times said the committee "purported to report that a two-month investigation had convinced it that General Butler's story of a Fascist march on Washington was alarmingly true" and "... also alleged that definite proof had been found that the much publicized Fascist march on Washington, which was to have been led by Major Gen. Smedley D. Butler, retired, according to testimony at a hearing, was actually contemplated".[6] The individuals involved all denied the existence of a plot.

While historians have questioned whether a coup was actually close to execution, most agree that some sort of "wild scheme" was contemplated and discussed.

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Prescott Bush​

In July 2007, a BBC investigation reported that Prescott Bush, father of U.S. President George H. W. Bush and grandfather of then-president George W. Bush, was to have been a "key liaison" between the 1933 Business Plotters and the newly emerged Nazi regime in Germany, although this has been disputed by Jonathan Katz as a misconception caused by a clerical research error. According to Katz, "Prescott Bush was too involved with the actual Nazis to be involved with something that was so home grown as the business plot."



 

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@Rhakim sad that you sink to such disingenuous fakkitry, when it comes time to defend bruce jenner not being a woman. not sure what your angle is, since you don't actually believe what you post

other than that, you're a pretty good poster. Sad!


Holy fukk, did you bring your obsession with transgender into yet another thread :laff:

I've said that I'm not down with their agenda, but I also have zero input on what Jenner says. WTF does that have to do with Trump's potential power over the executive branch?

Do you argue like this because you know you're too stupid to engage in a legitimate debate? Or are you too stupid to know you're stupid, and you actually think this isn't embarrassing?
 
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A history reminder that has been quietly swept under the carpet. There may be old threads on this. I think there's a coli member with a smedley butler handle.

The Business Plot (also called the Wall Street Putsch and The White House Putsch) was a political conspiracy in 1933, in the United States, to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and install Smedley Butler as dictator. Retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler asserted that wealthy businessmen were plotting to create a fascist veterans' organization with Butler as its leader and use it in a coup d'état to overthrow Roosevelt. In 1934, Butler testified under oath before the United States House of Representatives Special Committee on Un-American Activities (the "McCormackdikkstein Committee") on these revelations. Although no one was prosecuted, the congressional committee final report said, "there is no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned, and might have been placed in execution when and if the financial backers deemed it expedient."

440px-Brigadier_General_Smedley_Butler%2C_1927_%2814773211711%29.jpg

The plot planned to install Brigadier General Smedley Butler as dictator of the United States.


Early in the committee's gathering of testimony most major news media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a "gigantic hoax".[5] When the committee's final report was released, the Times said the committee "purported to report that a two-month investigation had convinced it that General Butler's story of a Fascist march on Washington was alarmingly true" and "... also alleged that definite proof had been found that the much publicized Fascist march on Washington, which was to have been led by Major Gen. Smedley D. Butler, retired, according to testimony at a hearing, was actually contemplated".[6] The individuals involved all denied the existence of a plot.

While historians have questioned whether a coup was actually close to execution, most agree that some sort of "wild scheme" was contemplated and discussed.

___________________________________

Prescott Bush​

In July 2007, a BBC investigation reported that Prescott Bush, father of U.S. President George H. W. Bush and grandfather of then-president George W. Bush, was to have been a "key liaison" between the 1933 Business Plotters and the newly emerged Nazi regime in Germany, although this has been disputed by Jonathan Katz as a misconception caused by a clerical research error. According to Katz, "Prescott Bush was too involved with the actual Nazis to be involved with something that was so home grown as the business plot."





That's a wild story that I had never heard before. If I would have picked any year for such a plot to emerge, though, that would have been the one.
 

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That's a wild story that I had never heard before. If I would have picked any year for such a plot to emerge, though, that would have been the one.

Former Governor Jeb Bush was a member of one of these right wing foundations and did some real phuckery in the 2000 Florida presidential vote to get the Supreme Court to select his brother that almost totally phucked up the country during his 2 terms in office. Then came 9/11/2001, then came the wars in the Middle East perhaps costing trillions. Billions of dollars of military gear and installations were left behind in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Today both major political parties are repeating the spending in Ukraine. The political puppet masters are in total control.


 

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Is there a cliff notes version of the rule changes they are proposing? The heritage.com link is down right now.

All i found was this on the Project 2025 site.

  • Restore the integrity of the Department of Justice to ensure accountability by giving the FBI a hard rest, ensuring consistent litigation decisions, and enforcing immigration laws.
  • Solidify our border by restructuring the Department of Homeland Security and its priorities in ways that streamline the immigration process, end unclear immigration visas, and create a more secure immigration process.
  • Break up the Department of Education to strengthen education freedom, enhance parental rights in education, and protect taxpayers from student loan “forgiveness.
I'd co-sign 1&2 strongly.

Disagree with #3. DoE doesn't need to be broken up but def needs to be reformed. We've fallen really far behind the rest of the world in eduction.


From the Times article:

Mr. Trump intends to bring independent agencies — like the Federal Communications Commission, which makes and enforces rules for television and internet companies, and the Federal Trade Commission, which enforces various antitrust and other consumer protection rules against businesses — under direct presidential control.

He wants to revive the practice of “impounding” funds, refusing to spend money Congress has appropriated for programs a president doesn’t like — a tactic that lawmakers banned under President Richard Nixon.
He intends to strip employment protections from tens of thousands of career civil servants, making it easier to replace them if they are deemed obstacles to his agenda. And he plans to scour the intelligence agencies, the State Department and the defense bureaucracies to remove officials he has vilified as “the sick political class that hates our country.”

Neutral on the FTC and FCC argument. I don't think the President needs to have power over these agencies but at the same time these agencies give in to lobbyists so maybe it'll be an ok counter influence.

Impounding funds sounds sketch and seems it could easily go against the will of the people.

100% on board with stripping employment protections from lazy ass government workers. Being tenured in government is a joke and IMO is a major reason for government inefficiency and competency.

Also on board with hunting down political intelligence agents. They are a threat to the public interest and undermine the will of the people.

From the Guardian article:
The guide’s chapter on the US Department of Energy proposes eliminating three agency offices that are crucial for the energy transition, and also calls to slash funding to the agency’s grid deployment office in an effort to stymie renewable energy deployment, E&E News reported this week.

The plan, which would hugely expand gas infrastructure, was authored by Bernard McNamee, a former official at the agency. McNamee was also a Trump appointee to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. He previously led the far-right Texas Public Policy Foundation, which fights environmental regulation, and served as a senior adviser to the Republican senator Ted Cruz.

Another chapter focuses on gutting the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and moving it away from its focus on the climate crisis. It proposes cutting the agency’s environmental justice and public engagement functions, while shrinking it as a whole by terminating new hires in “low-value programs”, E&E News reported. The proposal was written Mandy Gunasekara, who was the former chief of staff at the EPA under Trump.

I already know this will be an unpopular thought but investing in gas infrastructure is important and critical for the next few decades. Fossil fuels aren't going anywhere - even if you eliminate them from cars, petroleum products are still heavily used in everything else that we use. This green rush is really fukking expensive and right now its a bit of a lie. Your electric Tesla is still getting its power from fossil fuel plants. Until we go full nuclear, "green" energy is disingenuous. With the rise of BRICS, which controls a large portion of the oil market, we NEED to have a counter - and thats domestic production. Besides economic reasons, this is a major security issue if BRICS ever goes up against us. Most Americans cannot afford a Tesla, cannot afford a $3000 charging station at their house, cannot afford a 20k battery replacement, etc. Going green is very expensive and prices out a majority of Americans. Paying premiums for clean energy is driving up costs across the board and during a time of high inflation, I don't think that benefits most Americans. Investing in gas infrastructure, opening up safe drilling platforms, and rebuilding our national stockpile would do far more wonders for the average American and lowering gas prices would be a major boost to reviving our economy right now.
 
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