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and it's not even "low key" any more. they can easily compete for that 5-6 spot.
"Hinkie Died For This, Long Live The Process" Philadelphia 76ers 2016-2017 Season Thread
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it's happening. everything is finally coming to fruition. the pain and suffering is over. we did it. thank you hinkie. thank you embiid. 4th seed here we come.
They definitely are, shyt I even think I am to an extent to be honest
They were 10th in made threes last year and just added one of the best shooters in the league, as for depth guys who were starting get moved to the bench. They won 28 games last year with Embiid playing 31, Simmons missing the season and TJ McConnell who is solid but clearly a bench PG was their starting PG. I see them getting into the playoffs if Embiid is healthy because he was consistently great on defense last year, and no matter how inconsistent their young guys are on offense if he's on the floor their defense will keep them in games they have no business being in.
Nah, Simmons will be good, but we've seen great wing players miss the playoffs early in their careers because it's much harder to effect the game on both sides of the ball from the perimeter as young guys.
Without Embiid the Sixers are still very talented, but their defense falls off a cliff without that back line to guard the rim.
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Philly was 27th in FG% last season & 25th in 3P%. So basically they chucked a bunch of threes and made a low percentage. They're not a good shooting team and they were also dead last in the league in 17 turnovers a game. I'm not buying that you plug 2 rookies and somehow get better with the ball and also improve their shooting. JJ will help with that, but overall it's not a good shooting team
I think you're giving them a little more credit than they deserve TBH
but either way I wish em well
And here I come
Philly was 27th in FG% last season & 25th in 3P%. So basically they chucked a bunch of threes and made a low percentage. They're not a good shooting team and they were also dead last in the league in 17 turnovers a game. I'm not buying that you plug 2 rookies and somehow get better with the ball and also improve their shooting. JJ will help with that, but overall it's not a good shooting team
I think you're giving them a little more credit than they deserve TBH
And in spite of those numbers they were actually winning games with Embiid on the floor, they were 10-4 in January before he was injured because they had the 3rd best defense in the league during that stretch. Their offense was putrid during that stretch, but their defense was smothering teams. I don't think you really get just how good Embiid is, I mean they legit had a shot at making the playoffs before he got hurt last season, they were only 3.5 games out of the 8th spot and were quickly gaining on the Pacers/Bucks/Hornets. I know what I saw with Embiid, and it was the best rim protector in the league that was also dropping 30 on people, that type of player makes a massive difference...if healthy. Also, the turnovers should drop with Simmons/Fultz.
I don't see how they plug in better talent and not improve, even if he's a rookie Fultz is a better offensive player than TJ McConnell, you have to think Ben Simmons is better than Ersan Illyasova as well, right? Redikk is a better shooter than Stauskas and TLC?
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Breh 14 games isn't an entire season tho. If your basing your projections for Philly off of one stretch of basketball then you're getting your hopes up. Embiid is special & even if he is overall healthy I still think you're overrating this team. Over the course of a season the Sixers will play to the level of being right outside the playoffs all season. Also where's the consistent perimeter scoring coming from? You have talked a lot about Embiid, but unless he has an MVP type season he's gonna be carrying 2 rookies and alotta young guys to make the playoffs. I already showed you they don't shoot it well and they turned it over more than anybody last yr. How can you equate mediocre shooting, awful ball security and inexperience with a playoff berth? Fultz & Simmons may be great pros, but they're both unknowns in the league...you gotta tamper your enthusiasm and let these kids play first
It's possible for Philly to be a 30-35 win team and have had a really good season that builds for the future. If I was a Sixers fan I'd look at this yr as a bridge year into the future, making the playoffs shouldnt necessarily be the goal
They were 11th defensively in the first 47 games of the season, he played in 31 of them, their defensive rating when he was on the floor was 98.5, that is Rudy Gobert level impact except it comes in a package that can get you 30 on the other end. I'm basing my projections around the idea of the Sixers getting 60+ games from Embiid, if they do they will make the playoffs. You're focusing on the rookies, yet both of those guys are better than the guys they will be replacing in the starting 5. You showed me that they didn't shoot well last year, and yet they were just 3.5 games out of the playoffs when Embiid got hurt, again, they were well on pace to catch up in the standings with a very light last two months in their schedule. I can equate poor shooting to a playoff berth because they have a generational talent in Embiid. You're discounting improvements in Saric, TLC and Stauskas as well, especially Saric who closed out the season doing exactly what you're asking, which is perimeter scoring.
How is 30-35 wins the high end of the scale, when the discussion we're having centers around the prospect of Embiid playing 60 or more games? How are they only going to win 2 more games over last years total, despite having Embiid for 30+ more games and better players, nevermind the fact they tanked the last few weeks of the season (wen 2-11) to insure they ended up with a worse record than the Kings. The East is even weaker this year, someone is going to step up and fill the gap left by the Pacers & Bulls.
This is all centered around 60 games from Embiid.....
yup. He is perfect for a 6th man role.
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Sixers had the worst offensive rating in the NBA last yr. Bottom 5 in the league in FG shooting percentage. Bottom 6 in the league in 3pt shooting percentage. Most turnovers per game in the NBA. Negative net rating. Philly had a tough time scoring last yr and even with expected improvement from Saric, Stauskas, TLC and help from Redikk they are still gonna struggle to score consistently from the perimeter
You're projecting next season results off of a nice month stretch in Jan and ignoring a season's worth of trends that tell a different story. And although Embiid was impressive last season with a PER of 34, it's top 30 in the league, but not a dominant number. That's the same PER as Gobert except Embiid is a less efficient shooter and rebounder than Gobert.
The rookies should be better than what they had last yr but that's not saying much. My expectation isn't for the rookies to come in and set the world on fire, which you are clearly banking on. I expect them to have nice moments, to struggle and everything in between. But when 40% of your startin 5 is rookies you should temper your enthusiasm until we see them play in the league
Different team, different players. You're projecting playoffs, I'm saying get better. Making the jump from the bottom to the playoffs doesn't happen over night with rookies. Philly can see growth and improvement while not necessarily winning a bunch more games and that's how I see it playing out. 34-35 wins and a foundation for the future would be my prediction and that's with a relatively healthy Embiid