I Thought You Westbrook D*cc Eaters Told Me Oladipo Was Worthless?

[Fortunate Lee]

dopest jersey in the nba,,need me one of these bytches

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

And for your information @The Dankster I've defended and been reasonable with his play in the past. These are just some of the examples:

Oladipo is a solid shooter and he's improved every season:

And he shot better than Ibaka from behind the arc on catch and shoot attempts and in general during the regular season. Lack of shooting was a problem for the Thunder when they ran that Westbrook/Waiters/Roberson/Durant/Ibaka lineup during the WCF and they still had success with it. Although Adams replacing Ibaka does shrink the floor, they have more than enough playmaking and scoring to make up for it. What really killed them in those final three games was Waiters going 3-18 and not being the reliable third scorer/playmaker they needed him to be - Oladaipo will fix all that.

Oladipo.

And you don't necessarily need to have a playmaker to move the ball, you just need willing passers. With Westbrook's energy he could get a ton of easy layups/dunks by giving up the ball and navigating his way through screens until he gets open. shyt he could even get those curls that Rip used to get by the elbow.

And all throughout the thread too - OKC trades Serge Ibaka to Orlando...

I've even defended Oladipo from those who claim that he wasn't able to take on more ball-duties and/or that Westbrook's triple-doubles were responsible for his production -

First of all, it's not the PG's job to have the ball in his hands to the degree that Westbrook does (his time of possession is 8.8 minutes while playing 34.8 minutes). Especially when you have another ballhandler [Oladipo] who can help run the offense, and the fact the team would have more offensive versatility and options if Westbrook played off-the-ball more. And use your brain, of course having the ball in his hands "all the time" is not meant to be taken in a literal sense, it's to signify that because he controls the ball so much he can average a high amount of assists.

Does the triple double tell you that the Spurs were coming off an emotional back-to-back 28-point come-from-behind victory, and therefore were already at a disadvantage coming into this game, and all throughout the game as they couldn't match OKC's energy, focus and executuion?
Does the triple double tell you that Roberson was hounding the oppostion's #1 player all night and forcing him to work harder than he typically would, to get his shot off?
Does the triple double tell you that the Adams was manhandling the Spurs' frontcourt?
Does the triple double tell you that OKC's defense held the Spurs to 98 points per 100 posessions - 10 points under their season aveage?
Does the triple double tell you how Westbrook controlled the tempo of the offense, and when he chose to pick his spots and when to feed his teammates?
Does the triple double tell you that Oladipo had 60%+ of his production without any direct influence from Westbrook?
Does the triple double tell you that the Spurs went 6-19 (31%) from behind the arc, when they actually lead the league in 3-pt shooting at 39% on 23 attempts?
Does the triple double tell you of all the fortunate drop-ins, opposition mental errors, favorable calls/non-calls, lucky bounces, momentum-runs, 50+% of runs that the Spurs didn't get?.

You even dapped this post of mine -

Do u nikkas know oladipo ain't got no shot and can't play defense?!

Ibaka and Vucci Mane

What Oladipo have you been watching breh?

So again, I don't know why you'd group me in with those that viewed him as "worthless", other than you let your Westbrook agenda go to your head again.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@Ain't That Something

I see you nikka.

 

[Higher Tech]

He just needed that chance to shine. I’ve been wanting him back in Indiana since PG first started becoming a star and we needed a 2

 

[Ain't That Something]

@Ain't That Something

I see you nikka.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I was wrong about you - you really are a dishonest piece of shyt.

I NEVER said Oladipo was a "worthless, shytty player last year who couldn't amount to anything" in this thread, to group me in with those posters that said that,

Bullshyt deflection on your part, I did NOT say that you said such a thing or group you in with posters that said that. I pointed out that a lot of posters were saying that and I was all over them. Then YOU came in with the deflections because you couldn't style on me over the point that was actually being argued. I delineated perfectly what you did and didn't say.

You should apologize for calling me dishonest when I didn't say one dishonest word.

I can tell by the way you're phrasing your argument you haven't even watched Indiana play this season. It's just your usual vague description based on what you see from the box-score routine.

Watched three times this season, so .

If your aim was to re-quote posts who said or insinuated Oladipo was "worthless" (which is what you've said to me in this very post), you should've left my posts out of it.

You're conflating two different posts.

I didn't quote you when I made the list of posters who said Oladipo was worthless.

I did quote you when I made the list of posters who said, "It's only been four games."

Your agenda against Westbrook started because of your obsession with LeBron, as if typically does when you go on these crusades - almost all of the time they're really about LeBron.

Bullshyt, and that doesn't even make any sense. If this was "really about Lebron", then I'd be pumping Westbrook up in order to diminish Durant, Lebron's actual rival. Not only do Lebron and Westbrook not play the same position, but no one is EVER going to look at bball history and put Westbrook in Lebron's league.

I've been hating on Westbrook since at least 2011, and always for the same reason: because I think he's a low-IQ player who makes bad decisions and overvalues himself as opposed to his teammates. I hate that kind of player. It's probably a "coach" thing. Look at the guys I've pumped up and look at the guys I've hated on - it's always the same trend. I will almost always prefer the guy who makes the "right decision" over the guy who doesn't even know what the right decision is.

We all have our tendencies. I tend to overrate two-way "make the right play" guys who think they have to do everything for their team. You tend to overrate quick selfish point guards with a loose commitment to defense who tend to go home early when they the #1. To each his own.


Rest of your post just more deflection.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I'm done with the @Gil Scott-Heroin wars. Ya ain't even been interesting enough to talk to anymore, you just waste people's time.

Won't admit to straight lying about Golden State missing open shots during the 19-0 Boston run no matter how many receipts I pulled.

Won't admit to being wrong about Tony Allen getting hurt against Golden State no matter how many receipts I pulled.

Won't go down gracefully in a dozen other dumb arguments we had.

Moves goalposts like a mofo and resorts to name-calling and lying personal attacks against my character when he can't win on the facts.

Has an anti-Lebron agenda that has nothing to do with Lebron himself which now drives 77% of the posts he makes on this board.

It ain't worth reading anymore.

He on ignore.

 

[feelosofer]

Victor Oladipo is one of those guys who was more athlete than basketball player, but I thought if he could go to a squad that was willing to coach him and develop him, he would be a very good player. Well the Pacers are that squad.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Victor Oladipo is one of those guys who was more athlete than basketball player, but I thought if he could go to a squad that was willing to coach him and develop him, he would be a very good player. Well the Pacers are that squad.

Looks like they won that trade.

And that's why you don't listen to the fans/media when doing deals.

 

[DonKnock]

I'm done with the @Gil Scott-Heroin wars. Ya ain't even been interesting enough to talk to anymore, you just waste people's time.

Won't admit to straight lying about Golden State missing open shots during the 19-0 Boston run no matter how many receipts I pulled.

Won't admit to being wrong about Tony Allen getting hurt against Golden State no matter how many receipts I pulled.

Won't go down gracefully in a dozen other dumb arguments we had.

Moves goalposts like a mofo and resorts to name-calling and lying personal attacks against my character when he can't win on the facts.

Has an anti-Lebron agenda that has nothing to do with Lebron himself which now drives 77% of the posts he makes on this board.

It ain't worth reading anymore.

He on ignore.

Your posting experience will be so much better now.



Argue with a fool and they’ll drag you down to their level and with with experience.

Argue with a sociopath and they’ll try to rot your brain so you can be miserable like them

 

[Rekkapryde]

why so much @Gil Scott-Heroin shade?

 

[pimpineasy]

Sabonis balling out so far too. 12 and 9 on 64% shooting for the Pacers.

Kanter just dropped a 16 and 19 game where he had NINE offensive boards. 14 and 9 on 60% shooting so far this season.

Adams, of course, still rolling with 13 and 8 on 62% shooting right now.

Taj looks to me like he lost a step and might be starting his decline this season, but still put up 11 and 10 on his old team the other night.

The idea that Westbrook drug some talentless squad to the playoffs was always a stupid one, and the further we get away from the moment the more ordinary it's going to look. Between Adams, Kanter, Taj, and Sabonis, Thunder had one of the strongest big men groups in the league. Add in Oladipo, Robertson, and McDermott on the wings and Westbrook on the point, and there was easily enough versatility on that team to be a lower-end playoff squad. (People talking shyt about Grant and Abrines while ignoring they talkin bout the 9th and 10th men.) The main thing they missed was a viable backup point guard. #7 in the West and an easy first-round exit is exactly where they belonged.

p.s. - on a squad with dominant rebounders like Adams, Kanter, Taj, and Sabonis, the fact that Westbrook was using that much energy each game chasing 10 boards has got to be one of the dumbest priorities by a player in recent history. YOUR TEAM IS LOADED WITH GREAT REBOUNDERS. Try at least half-assing it on defense instead.

great analysis
westbrook is one of the most fascinating but frustrating players i can recall watching
you love the fact that he not only plays with such high intensity but his athletic gifts are truly from the gods themselves.
westbrook and rose before injuries are the most athletic 1/2 i have had the pleasure of watching
now onto the frustrating part
his bball iq seems to be low
and that's caused by poor habits.........off balance 3 pointers early in the shot clock..........jump shot form jumps too high and drifts unecessarily .........he hasnt added any new skills since his 1st 3 years .........
i dont see you getting to finals with him being your number 1 option

and people will of course blame the coach for the iso plays.......
its been 2 coaches now scott brooks and b donovan

bottom line westbrook is a highlight reel who wont win a championship as a #1 option...........i take it as a what if d rose stayed healthy

 

[LV Koopa]

You gotta have vertigo by now with all the spinning in circles you been doing trying to find new places to put your goalposts.

Bunch of posters been sayin that Oladipo was a worthless, shytty player last year who couldn't amount to anything. I been on their necks. You got nothing.

So you deflect and say he's nothing special this year. I point out that he's ripping things up, top-5 in scoring among all guards while maintaining top-10 shooting efficiency and top-10 3pt%, creating his own shots, distributing well within the offense and playing strong defense for a 12-9 team. You can see how his team feeds off his play too. The ONLY guards who are scoring at that level with that kind of efficiency while playing both ways are Curry, Klay, and Kyrie. You got nothing.

You tried to diminish him by calling Indiana a "mediocre/bad team." Now he led that "mediocre/bad team" to a 12-9 record with wins over Cleveland, Detroit, Minnesota, Toronto, and San Antonio. That one backfired like a motherfukker. You got nothing.

You simultaneously try to deflect with "it's only 4 games." Now we at 20 games and if anything he's played even better. You got nothing.

So now you trying to jump to, "But he was actually good last year," which flies in the face of what the haters were arguing and what this whole thread is about, dumbass. Tell that to them, not me, fool.

And then you obsessively HAD to bring Bron into it too because he been camped out in your frontal lobe for a minute now.

The Bosh argument full of bullshyt too. Bosh only hit 8 threes total in ALL of 2010, talking about his 3pt% from that year some bullshyt from you. He never once was shooting threes until the 2nd half of his stint in Miami. Bosh's overall 2007-2009 shooting numbers were worse than his 2011 numbers, so cherry-picking 2010 to make it look like 2011 was an off year some more bullshyt. His totals went down some because he moved from his 7th season in the same offense as the #1 to a brand new season as the #3, but I've always said that Bosh still played well, he just had a smaller role, which is the opposite of the shyt the Westbrook stans been saying about Oladipo. You just had to find some way to hate on Lebron in the conversation, no matter how much bullshyt it took to get there.


If you wanted to be an honest poster, you could say, "Yeah, the haters are wrong, Oladipo always had talent, and he's balling out this year." But you CAN'T say that straight up, you gotta twist it to defend Westbrook and hate on Bron.

You got too many agendas to maintain nowadays - your posting has been on some bullshyt this year.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

4 former OKC players all flourishing on other teams, and those former OKC players are exactly what the current Thunder team need for their bench OKC is gonna be stuck with Patrick Patterson and Raymond Felton once PG leaves for LA and Melo opts out for Houston or Portland

 

[BigTyme Records]

4 former OKC players all flourishing on other teams, and those former OKC players are exactly what the current Thunder team need for their bench OKC is gonna be stuck with Patrick Patterson and Raymond Felton once PG leaves for LA and Melo opts out for Houston or Portland

After all the help Russ got this summer, the scenario you just put forth is very likely to happen too bruh lmao