"It ain't many of us, I told them less is more" Official Green Bay Packers 2014 Offseason

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Our list of free agents:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/pack...-agents-at-a-glance-b9997673z1-223718881.html

Pay whatever to keep Shields...

Raji is probably gone. I'd like to keep Pickett and draft a young guy in the first 3 rounds.

Our biggest needs are SAFETY, LINEBACKER (INSIDE AND OUTSIDE) and DEFENSIVE TACKLE.

We could draft a Center with EDS maybe leaving... the team may draft a WR/TE prospect as well because Finley is an uncertainty and Quarless is also a FA

TT needs to use all avenues to improve the team. For as much as we rail on Capers, he can't make due with a lack of talent and playmakers at some spots. Plus, we just saw one of our former personnel guys in John Schneider win a SB using all avenues to improve Seattle.
 
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Tramon is :whew: at the fact he played 2010 level those last 8 games. He didn't wanna have to take that cut :pachaha:

He might have to... they could give him an extension to spread out his cap hit... he's entering the final year of his deal. But he balled out those last 8 games... def need more of that. He's not even old, he's like 30 right now.
 

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ise-at-the-start-of-the-2014-offseason/page/3



Projected 2014 Salary Cap: $126.3 million, per Albert Breer of NFL.com
Green Bay Current Estimated Cap Space: $27.468 million
Before the draft and before considering the possibility of pursuing a veteran free agent, Green Bay must decide which of its free agents to re-sign. As noted above, the Packers are estimated to be working with about $27 million in cap space.
The 10 free agents the team would arguably most want to re-sign are listed below, along with their 2013 base salary.
Sam Shields: $2.023 million
Evan Dietrich-Smith: $1.323 million
James Jones: $2.95 million
Ryan Pickett: $5.4 million
B.J Raji: $4.49 million
Jermichael Finley: $4.45 million
James Starks: $630,000
Johnny Jolly: $715,000
Mike Neal: $630,000
John Kuhn: $1.8 million
It's immediately clear that the Packers will have a lot of holes to fill from the outside in 2014, as the numbers simply don't work out. That's a total of $24.411 million just to re-sign core players at their 2013 base salaries, not taking into account the significant raises players like Raji, Jones, Dietrich-Smith, Shields and Pickett would expect.
Even by backloading these contracts for a minimal present cap hit, and including high signing bonuses upfront, the Packers won't even be able to re-sign half this list and still pay all their drafted players.
Then, there are the veteran free agents many fans hope Ted Thompson will pursue, a situation that looks more and more unlikely when the numbers are crunched.
Below is a list of the veteran free agents who would make the most sense for the Packers (if not otherwise re-signed by their organizations) and their 2013 base salaries.
Jairus Byrd, Safety, Buffalo Bills: $6.196 million
Donte Whitner, Safety, San Francisco 49ers: $3.85 million
Dennis Pitta, Tight End, Baltimore Ravens: $2.023 million
Alex Mack, Center, Cleveland Browns: $3.732 million
In terms of cap space, $27 million isn't a bad number at all, and the Packers are better off than most other teams in the NFL thanks to Thompson. However, with an unprecedented 19 free agents, it's unlikely the Packers re-sign even a third of their own departing players, let alone make a play for a free agent on the market.
 

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Damm Scott wells bout to get released again due to cap space :ehh:




Pro bowl center jags, browns or skins should pick him up.
 

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Better sign shields TT :ufdup:

Breh change the title of the thread to

"It ain't many of us, I told them less is more" Official Green Bay Packers 2014 Offseason

Shields return is 50/50 based on what I read last week. Seems he really wants to test the market. We only have a month or so to lock him in before free agency. I'd be crushed if we lost him :to:
 

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Breh change the title of the thread to

"It ain't many of us, I told them less is more" Official Green Bay Packers 2014 Offseason

Shields return is 50/50 based on what I read last week. Seems he really wants to test the market. We only have a month or so to lock him in before free agency. I'd be crushed if we lost him :to:
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damn, hopefully we don't lose too many significant players.
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Good article today. We have $28 million in cap space while our competition in the NFC (SEA, SF, NOLA, etc) are limited in their cap space and will need to cut guys. We need to sign a couple of free agents on defense but nothing big. A safety and linebacker would be the key before the draft. But even if we don't, there should be cap casualties after June 1 we can look at or in camp.

I've been frustrated with the front office since the lack of aggression in the 2011 offseason after the Super Bowl but the draft and develop philosophy is sound strategy. Our issue is that the 2011 and 2012 drafts aren't great classes. 2010 was a solid haul and I like what the 2013 class brought this past season.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/pack...tml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
As a result of general manager Ted Thompson's long-standing draft-and-develop philosophy, the Green Bay Packers enter the off-season in a different fraternity from the Seattle Seahawks, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Panthers and New Orleans Saints.
The Packers' roommates are teams like the Oakland Raiders, Jacksonville Jaguars, Cleveland Browns and Miami Dolphins.
Those are not exactly the teams you want to be grouped with during the regular season, but in the off-season being housemates with such a conspicuous bunch of also-rans is what you might consider a feather in your cap.
It is especially so if you have one of the best quarterbacks in the game signed to a long-term deal, a ton of offensive talent and three consecutive division titles in the bank because it means you didn't earn the salary cap room by being one of the worst teams in the NFL.
What the Packers have in common with those bottom dwellers is that they are among the leaders in salary cap space heading into the 2014 season.
Granted, this is before any of the franchise tags are applied, restricted free agent tenders are submitted and players are signed to extensions, but the Packers are roughly $28 million under the projected $126.3 million salary cap.
As of right now, they're somewhere in the top six or seven teams in the NFL in cap space based on preliminary numbers the NFL Players Association is working with. It is roughly $10 million more than the amount they had going into the 2013 season when they were facing the challenge of signing quarterback Aaron Rodgers and linebacker Clay Matthews to mega-dollar extensions.
The Seahawks, 49ers, Panthers and Saints are better teams than the Packers, but because all of them have very limited salary cap space, Thompson has a chance to get the jump on them this off-season. As has been the case every year the Packers have been loaded with cap room — five of the last eight years they've had $17 million or more — it's what you do with it that really matters.
This off-season, the to-do list isn't centralized around two star players but rather around 17 unrestricted free agents, eight of whom were preferred starters last season.
The three big names are cornerback Sam Shields, defensive tackle B.J. Raji and tight end Jermichael Finley, but the list also includes receiver James Jones, linebacker Mike Neal, center Evan Dietrich-Smith, end Johnny Jolly, fullback John Kuhn, defensive tackle Ryan Pickett and running back James Starks.
The Packers were not able to sign any of those free agents to extensions during the '13 season and in many cases they didn't even try because they plan to elevate recent draft picks into their spots. As a result, they will carry $9.8 million of leftover cap space from '13 into 2014.
According to a source with NFLPA salary information, the Packers have about $108.5 million in charges committed to their 2014 cap, so if the cap limit comes in at $126.3 million, the figure league officials projected late last year, their '13 leftovers will be added to roughly $18 million of space.
Some union officials believe the cap limit could go as high as $128 million when all the calculations are complete, which means the Packers could have as much as $30 million of cap space for the third time in Thompson's reign.
How did the Packers get there?
They don't sign free agents such as Sidney Rice (Seahawks), Craig Dahl (49ers), Ben Grubbs and Brodrick Bunkley (Saints) and Mike Tolbert (Panthers).
And they have avoided writing a lot of bad contracts.
"There is no question that we are primarily a draft-and-develop team — we use the draft as the main vehicle to add players to our roster," Packers president Mark Murphy said on the team's website recently. "We use other means to acquire players, including signing undrafted free agents, 'street' free agents and unrestricted free agents.
"The advantage that drafted players provide is that they are typically less expensive and are younger and ascending as players."
To say the Packers consider unrestricted free agency to build their team would be like saying they have considered putting a roof on Lambeau Field. Maybe it has been brought up, but there are no plans to do it.
So while they have lots of cap space, maybe their passivity in free agency is a reason the Packers have not risen to the top of the NFC since winning Super Bowl XLV — something they did with the help of two key free agents, Charles Woodson and Pickett.
The Packers have been able to stay in the hunt every year, but they have not taken the chances the others have to get to the very top.
Thompson's advantage over his NFC competition this year is that he has the flexibility to exclusively re-sign most or all of his own free agents, complement a select number of his own with some outside free agents or sign a good portion of his own and then rely on the draft to fill out the roster.
It's pretty unlikely Thompson will re-sign Finley given he wouldn't medically clear safety Nick Collins, who had the same neck injury. If he can't get Shields signed to a long-term deal, he can put a franchise tag on him for approximately $10 million. And if he can sign Shields, he could use the franchise tag on Raji for maybe $9 million.
Ideally, he would get both signed to long-term, cap-friendly deals and then have plenty of money left to choose among players like Kuhn, Dietrich-Smith, Neal, Pickett and Quarless. In every case but Kuhn, he has a promising young player he can bank on if he decides to pass.
He also has to keep in mind that receivers Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb and tackle Bryan Bulaga have deals that expire after the 2014 season and will be candidates for extensions sometime this season.
Thompson doesn't have a lot of tough decisions to make this off-season; his biggest ones — besides what to do with Shields and Raji — are draft-related. Some scouts have described the draft this year as very deep and with the 21st pick in the first round, Thompson needs to stack a very good one on top of the '13 class, which has a chance to be among his best.
The 49ers and Panthers, meanwhile, need to sign young quarterbacks Colin Kaepernick and Cam Newton to long-term deals, which will stretch their caps thin. Seattle also has to deal with a host of young players deserving of big-money deals, with cornerback Richard Sherman and safety Earl Thomas the most pressing.
"We know we have to make tough decisions," Seahawks general manager John Schneider said during Super Bowl week. "Everybody does. But we're a young football team. We like our guys and we're going to keep drafting and trying to get ready for whoever has to depart."
All it takes is one great draft class to vault a team to the top. Schneider did that in 2010, selecting tackle Russell Okung, safety Earl Thomas, receiver Golden Tate, cornerback Walter Thurmond and safety Kam Chancellor, all contributors on the Super Bowl XLVIII team.
The 2012 NFC champion 49ers had a similar one in '11, when they drafted linebacker Aldon Smith, Kaepernick, cornerback Chris Culliver, running back Kendall Hunter and fullback Bruce Miller.
For Thompson, the big question is whether to bank on having one of those classes this year or use some of the salary cap flexibility to provide insurance with some free-agent signings. The advantage is his for now.
 

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I don't know why I'm just now getting my notifications for this thread. Either way…..

It's pretty unlikely Thompson will re-sign Finley given he wouldn't medically clear safety Nick Collins, who had the same neck injury.

see, its BS like this that gets me tight. Finley is a 4.5 cap hit against our team. For what? Quarless is just as productive and dependable and plays multiple positions. I fukkn hate how everyone ogles over Finley's size. He's wack. He doesn't complement our strengths. Why does it take an injury to keep him off this team? He should've never been resigned. Thats 4.5 million that could've gone to a defensive player.

cap-friendly deals and then have plenty of money left to choose among players like Kuhn, Dietrich-Smith, Neal, Pickett and Quarless. In every case but Kuhn, he has a promising young player he can bank on if he decides to pass

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