Layover in San Antonio - Official GState Warriors vs Spurs RD 2 playoff thread

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yadda yadda yadda. you ride A LOT for your bum ass squad who needed 6 games and a David Lee spiritual lift to get past the Nuggets. Fake azz Coli Cash don't mean shyt bruh.

My squad beat the 3rd seed in the West without it's only All-star and the league leader in double doubles. Foh.
 

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What do you mean? Look up the team's points allowed when he was playing vs. when he was out injured.

There was a stretch in March where Parker missed 7 games and they allowed 104.5 points per 100 possessions and allowed 46% shooting and 46.3 3-point shooting.

It's no coincidence that the Spurs 3-point defense fell off a cliff when he missed several games and played hobbled in March and April.

Everybody who watched Spurs games this year know Parker significantly improved his defense this year. He's not some lockdown 1-on-1 defender by any means, but he's improved his help defense a lot and he's been more disruptive than ever, particularly on the perimeter.

His defensive rating is 97.0 this year according to NBA.com.

Even Popovich said so and he's reluctant to the point of almost never praising his players publicly for anything:

“Defensively, he’s been unnoticed, really,” Gregg Popovich said before the Oklahoma City game. “But he’s done a hell of a job on that end of the floor guarding difficult players every night.
 

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lol at anyone stopping parker...that nikka been taking to the hole and finishing since 2004

klay thomas??? are you fukking serious :snoop:
 

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What do you mean? Look up the team's points allowed when he was playing vs. when he was out injured.

I don't need to look up the stats, because I watched the games. But let's have a look anyway.

There was a stretch in March where Parker missed 7 games and they allowed 104.5 points per 100 possessions and allowed 46% shooting and 46.3 3-point shooting.

Thanks for that Dan McCarney.

Aside, from the 136-point burst from Portland, 7 out of the 8 games that Parker missed during that stretch - teams averaged 93.5 PPG against the Spurs, a better mark than the Spurs regular season points against 96.6. That Portland game Parker wasn't doing shyt to stop that offensive-juggernaut peformance:

12 from 18 = Aldridge
9 from 15 = Hickson
12 from 20 = Lillard
8 from 11 = Maynor

That 136 point performance drastically affects the overall average. They also defeated the Thunder when Parker was out and held them to under 100 points too. You saying their defense suffered so much when he was gone, isn't factually right, as I said: aside from one game they held teams to under a THREE POINT AVERAGE (93.5) over that stretch, compared to the rest of the season (96.6).

It's no coincidence that the Spurs 3-point defense fell off a cliff when he missed several games and played hobbled in March and April.

Parker isn't drastically changing any teams 3-point scoring. Parker hardly ever guards the best perimeter/shooter.

Everybody who watched Spurs games this year know Parker significantly improved his defense this year. He's not some lockdown 1-on-1 defender by any means, but he's improved his help defense a lot and he's been more disruptive than ever, particularly on the perimeter.

I never alluded to that he hasn't improved his defense, but he's still an average perimeter defender. No team's defense is gonna suffer due to the absence of Parker. He simply doesn't have that impact. If you wanna argue that offensive struggles (from no Parker) has an impact on the defensive end, then that's fine. But at face value, the Spurs defense didn't 'suffer so much' when he was out.

His defensive rating is 97.0 this year according to NBA.com.

Westbrook has a 100.4 defensive rating
Paul has a 103.0 defensive rating
Williams has a 104.7 defensive rating
Bledsoe has a 100.7 defensive rating

Need I say more on why defensive ratings aren't a true reflection of a player's defensive abilities?

Even Popovich said so and he's reluctant to the point of almost never praising his players publicly for anything:

:beli:

Indeed, Danny Green and Tim Duncan both cited offensive qualities when recently asked what the Spurs are missing most during his seven-game absence. Manu Ginobili took it a step further, outright dismissing the notion that they might be suffering more on defense without their All-Star point guard.

“It shouldn’t be a problem at the defensive end,” he said after Saturday’s 119-113 victory over Cleveland. “If you are not scoring, then I would say, ‘OK, we are missing Tony.’ But at the defensive end it’s just a matter of doing it right and Cory (Joseph) is a defensive minded point guard. So I don’t think it’s about Tony.”

Manu the so-called "a great coach one day", doesn't think Parker was that much of a loss defensively (certainly not to the degree that you think he was) during that period.
 

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I don't need to look up the stats, because I watched the games. But let's have a look anyway.



Thanks for that Dan McCarney.

Aside, from the 136-point burst from Portland, 7 out of the 8 games that Parker missed during that stretch - teams averaged 93.5 PPG against the Spurs, a better mark than the Spurs regular season points against 96.6. That Portland game Parker wasn't doing shyt to stop that offensive-juggernaut peformance:

12 from 18 = Aldridge
9 from 15 = Hickson
12 from 20 = Lillard
8 from 11 = Maynor

That 136 point performance drastically affects the overall average. They also defeated the Thunder when Parker was out and held them to under 100 points too. You saying their defense suffered so much when he was gone, isn't factually right, as I said: aside from one game they held teams to under a THREE POINT AVERAGE (93.5) over that stretch, compared to the rest of the season (96.6).



Parker isn't drastically changing any teams 3-point scoring. Parker hardly ever guards the best perimeter/shooter.



I never alluded to he hasn't improved his defense, but he's still an average perimeter defender. No team's defense is gonna suffer due to the absence of Parker. He simply doesn't have that impact. If you wanna argue that offensive struggles (from no Parker) has an impact on the defensive end, then that's fine. But at face value, the Spurs defense didn't 'suffer so much' when he was out.



Westbrook has a 100.4 defensive rating
Paul has a 103.0 defensive rating
Williams has a 104.7 defensive rating
Bledsoe has a 100.7 defensive rating

Need I say more on why defensive ratings aren't a true reflection of a player's defensive abilities?



:beli:



Manu the so-called "a great coach one day", doesn't think Parker was that much of a loss defensively (not to the degree that you think he was) during that period.

Good job. I don't even feel like checking or analyzing any of the shyt you said because it's not that important to me either way quite frankly, but I watch most Spurs games and I know based on that that Parker has significantly improved defensively and is having his best year ever as a defender.
 
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Good job. I don't even feel like checking or analyzing any of the shyt you said because it's not that important to me either way quite frankly, but I watch most Spurs games and I know based on that that Parker has significantly improved defensively and is having his best year ever as a defender.

I ain't disputing that. All I disputed was your notion that the Spurs defense 'suffered so much' when he was gone. :manny:
 

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i love how everyone is debating the matchups but we are missing one important thing

Greg Popovich vs Mark "Mama there goes that man" Jackson

Spurs in 5
 
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