Supercoolmayo
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Lebron hating in 2016 
LeBron James' MVP case grows each game he misses
- Thread starter IllmaticDelta
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real spit right there
....and I know he wouldnt do it, but if he wanted to solidify himself as the best ever, he could join the Sixers or some shyt and take em to the Finals, lol.its crazy to think as good as guys like RWB or KD the same cant be said for them. I remember just 2 years ago, people were saying A.D. was better than Bron. A.D. has the stats and the PER this year....off the charts...yet Nola still
and that should prove that individual stats are just that
Yea Its a shame cuz Pip is criminally underrated....That team went 55-27 and that roster was trash utter garbage....2nd and 3rd option was Horace Grant and BJ Armstrong
Pippen led THAT crap to 55 wins and should have been in the finals...
WOAT haircut,underrated player.
facts...
Removing the guards he's right around top 10, and he's on par with good-great rim protectors, his biggest strength on defense is his ability to switch and recover though, that's where he really excels.
NBA.com/Stats | Players Defensive Impact
More than 5 FGA at the rim per game.
If you say he is then I'll just take your word for it. I personally don't think highly enough of Shump to give him any kinda "specialist" title.
One of the best bigs at staying in front of guards.
JetFueledThoughts
Superstar
YOU DUDES KILL ME WITH THIS shyt.
CLEVELAND WAS GOING NO WHERE FAST WHEN BRON CAME BACK...
YOU REMEMBER DION WAITERS?
THEY WERE GIFTED JR, SHUMP AND MOZ...
THEN THEY TOOK OFF.
KYRIE AND TRISTIAN
WERE THE ONLY ONES ON THE ROSTER
FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR
BY THE TIME THE PLAYOFFS STARTED.
STOP ACTING LIKE THAT nikka
DONT HAVE TO REVAMP ROSTERS
TO FIT HIS STYLE.
YOU CANT JUST PUT HIM ON ANY TEAM
AND MAKE THEM CONTENDERS...
EVEN MIA HAD TO RAMP UP THE ROSTER AFTER SEASON 1.
Oh wow you're so right, who KNOWS where the Cavs would be without Shumpert and Mozgov
They'd be a lottery team for sure, thank you Based Shump
Think about this. There are people in this thread arguing that Kyrie/Love don't win because they don't have the ballhanders they need, they don't have the defensive center they need, and they don't have the 3-and-D guy they need.
So Lebron, the best forward in the game and the best driver to the basket in the game, is also simultaneously covering gaps that are meant to be covered by a ballhandler, a 3-and-D guy, and a defensive center.
It didn't slip me that Chicago, the ONLY guy who liked that first comment, is the same guy who was trying to make Shump out to be an elite 3pt shooter in this same thread.
Try to argue out of both sides of your mouth in the same thread just to shyt on Lebron brehs.
Yes, Shump is a poor 3 and D guy. But that's ALL he is. He's not there to do literally anything else but three-and-D. So if you argue that he's not a good 3-and-D guy, then all you're arguing is that Lebron doesn't have much help.
Same with TT. Sure, he's not one of the top defensive centers in the league. But he sucks at offense, so the ONLY reason he is playing 40 minutes/game in meaningful series is for defense and rebounding from the center position. If you argue that he's not a top defensive center...you're just arguing that Lebron doesn't have great help.
And Toronto is beating Houston and the current Clips. Meaning there are only two teams in the entire NBA that Lebron can't singlehandedly beat when just given the basic requirement that he has NBA players on his roster.
Why does it actually matter that the Raptors would get beat by a team that is only a mythical dream in May?
"The healthy Clips" have among the top PG, top PF, and top Center in the NBA, with shooters/scorers. They might win the West for all we know.
Facts are, Raptors are 22-5 against every team in the NBA without Lebron on the roster. They won at OKC by 10, at Houston by 13, at Utah by 6, against Memphis by 15.
Last year they split against Durant's OKC, split against San Antonio, lost two nailbiters (by 3 and by ) to the 73-9 Warriors, and beat the Clips by 11 and 18.
So they were the 2nd best team in the East and probably the 4th best team in the West, and one of those four has fallen off so they'd be #3 now.
But what the hell does that mean? Just because someone's called an "all star" doesn't mean anything when it comes to winning games. That's the whole point of this argument.
So Lebron, the best forward in the game and the best driver to the basket in the game, is also simultaneously covering gaps that are meant to be covered by a ballhandler, a 3-and-D guy, and a defensive center.
It didn't slip me that Chicago, the ONLY guy who liked that first comment, is the same guy who was trying to make Shump out to be an elite 3pt shooter in this same thread.
Try to argue out of both sides of your mouth in the same thread just to shyt on Lebron brehs.
Yes, Shump is a poor 3 and D guy. But that's ALL he is. He's not there to do literally anything else but three-and-D. So if you argue that he's not a good 3-and-D guy, then all you're arguing is that Lebron doesn't have much help.
Same with TT. Sure, he's not one of the top defensive centers in the league. But he sucks at offense, so the ONLY reason he is playing 40 minutes/game in meaningful series is for defense and rebounding from the center position. If you argue that he's not a top defensive center...you're just arguing that Lebron doesn't have great help.
he wouldnt make it out the second round in the west
lebron can beat the raptors by his god damn self...thats just the current state of the east.
And Toronto is beating Houston and the current Clips. Meaning there are only two teams in the entire NBA that Lebron can't singlehandedly beat when just given the basic requirement that he has NBA players on his roster.
Why does it actually matter that the Raptors would get beat by a team that is only a mythical dream in May?
"The healthy Clips" have among the top PG, top PF, and top Center in the NBA, with shooters/scorers. They might win the West for all we know.
Facts are, Raptors are 22-5 against every team in the NBA without Lebron on the roster. They won at OKC by 10, at Houston by 13, at Utah by 6, against Memphis by 15.
Last year they split against Durant's OKC, split against San Antonio, lost two nailbiters (by 3 and by ) to the 73-9 Warriors, and beat the Clips by 11 and 18.
So they were the 2nd best team in the East and probably the 4th best team in the West, and one of those four has fallen off so they'd be #3 now.
But what the hell does that mean? Just because someone's called an "all star" doesn't mean anything when it comes to winning games. That's the whole point of this argument.
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Illin Degenerate
All Star
flawed analysis, last year should have no bearing on this year's mvp race. in the 3 games this year that lebron has missed they've also missed another starter. you take the guy 4th on the team in minutes and the guy 1st on the team in minutes out of the lineup you'd expect that team to struggle. having said that of course lebron is a deserving candidate, his efg% is 3rd highest of his career, tied for most assists per game, and tied for 2nd most rebounds per game in his career.
Ben.
Heisenbrook
Nikka mentioned James Jones twice (a majority of the time bench warmer)
Flywin Lannister
Superstar
I can't read this fukking shyt font fam. No disrespect but it's like reading a native american cartoon somehow, it makes no sense SON! Respect tho chi-town!
YOU DUDES KILL ME WITH THIS shyt.
CLEVELAND WAS GOING NO WHERE FAST WHEN BRON CAME BACK...
YOU REMEMBER DION WAITERS?
THEY WERE GIFTED JR, SHUMP AND MOZ...
THEN THEY TOOK OFF.
KYRIE AND TRISTIAN
WERE THE ONLY ONES ON THE ROSTER
FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR
BY THE TIME THE PLAYOFFS STARTED.
STOP ACTING LIKE THAT nikka
DONT HAVE TO REVAMP ROSTERS
TO FIT HIS STYLE.
YOU CANT JUST PUT HIM ON ANY TEAM
AND MAKE THEM CONTENDERS...
EVEN MIA HAD TO RAMP UP THE ROSTER AFTER SEASON 1.
etrofllenrod504
Superstar
So having shooters because you have a player that can break down a defense and can find the open man for the highest percentage shot is a bad thing now?
According to Lebron haters if he doesn't do every single thing on his team then he shouldn't be credited for any of his team's success ..What's funny is they don't hold their favourite players to.such high expectationsSo having shooters because you have a player that can break down a defense and can find the open man for the highest percentage shot is a bad thing now?
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
It's usually the same people who claim their hero was great in a finals where he shot somewhere between 36-40% from the field and didn't take on a large defensive task or got torched on defense as well, but that's none of my business
