LeBron James' MVP case grows each game he misses

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Yeah a team with 2 other all NBA players should be 4-18 without Lebron smh

The team is not built towards love or kyrie's strengths otherwise they would have a defensive center and a 3 anf D wing. The team is BUILT around Lebron, without him it has mismatched pieces.
 

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The team is not built towards love or kyrie's strengths otherwise they would have a defensive center and a 3 anf D wing. The team is BUILT around Lebron, without him it has mismatched pieces.
So with lebron out kyrie has

2 players that can get 10 rebounds a piece (love and Tristan)

Three 3 point Snipers (JR,Frye,Love)


a 20 point scoring machine that had a season of 26 a few years ago and he 25 (love)

A defensive player wing that don't need shots (Iman)

A defensive big that will go out a cover the other teams power forward and able to switch on defense

and now a young defensive player wing (Liggins)



damn i would love to have Melo on a team like this where (liggins,Iman,and tristan to do the dirty work while i score)



but kyrie (whose team most people say belongs to :troll:) cant make it work :stopitslime:


:russ:


Dont kyrie play with these same players every day:dwillhuh:


Why does he need time to adjust :comeon:
 
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YOU DUDES KILL ME WITH THIS shyt.

CLEVELAND WAS GOING NO WHERE FAST WHEN BRON CAME BACK...

YOU REMEMBER DION WAITERS?

THEY WERE GIFTED JR, SHUMP AND MOZ...
THEN THEY TOOK OFF.

KYRIE AND TRISTIAN
WERE THE ONLY ONES ON THE ROSTER
FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR
BY THE TIME THE PLAYOFFS STARTED.

STOP ACTING LIKE THAT nikka
DONT HAVE TO REVAMP ROSTERS
TO FIT HIS STYLE.

YOU CANT JUST PUT HIM ON ANY TEAM
AND MAKE THEM CONTENDERS...

EVEN MIA HAD TO RAMP UP THE ROSTER AFTER SEASON 1.

What the hell were JR, Shump, and Mosgov doing before Lebron? They were bench pieces on lottery teams, but with Lebron they pull starter minutes on championship contenders?



To have success, Bron needs shooters around him, so GMs do not add unnecessary ball handlers and play makers to surround him. This is the reason his teams go to crap when he leaves. I am not saying he is not a first ballot hall of fame player, but his value to a team is amplified when his GMs decide to sacrifice ball handling and play making ability for shooting when surrounding him with talent. Similar to the Steve Nash effect, where the value is multiplied due to the way teams are built around him.

Explain to me what the hell a team with Kyrie/JR/Shump/Jefferson/Love/TT is missing, specially.

A team with a ball-dominant point guard and someone who can handle the ball at 4 out of 5 positions ain't losing because the GM didn't get enough ball handlers.

They just aren't good enough. It ain't like the pieces aren't there. There's enough ball handlers, shooters, rebounder, defenders in that mix... They just ain't good enough.



Its not really debatable...bron has pretty much always been surrounded with shooters

You mean other than 2003-2012 and 2015, right?

The only years Lebron had legit shooters at multiple positions were 2013-2014 and 2016. But he's made 5 finals, and won one, on teams with below-average three-point shooting skill.



Farmar and Fisher are "shooters"..?

:mjgrin:

The dumbasses here have listed Delly, Bosh, Shump, and Liggins as shooters surrounding Lebron.

Fisher is a HOF shooter compared to that crew.
 

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obviously lebron is the best player in the world...but if you give him the sixers roster or the bucks roster they arent contending for a ring..they'll come out the east...(thats the difference he can make) but they wont beat the likes of the warriors without supporting cast shooting at a high level...atleast not in a 7 game series

We're seriously reduced to "you put Lebron on the worst team in the league and he might make the Finals, he might beat a 70+ win team a few times, but he ain't taking them in seven!



It's not surprising. Lebron literally dominates everything on his teams.

If you took bron away and gave them a full offseason, the cavs would be a 50 win team.

Top 4 in the east

Yeah, the team that loses by double-digits to Pacers and Detroit is going to be winning 50. Based on WHAT evidence?



The team is not built towards love or kyrie's strengths otherwise they would have a defensive center and a 3 anf D wing. The team is BUILT around Lebron, without him it has mismatched pieces.

Who the hell are TT and Shump then?
 

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We're seriously reduced to "you put Lebron on the worst team in the league and he might make the Finals, he might beat a 70+ win team a few times, but he ain't taking them in seven!





Yeah, the team that loses by double-digits to Pacers and Detroit is going to be winning 50. Based on WHAT evidence?





Who the hell are TT and Shump then?

TT isn't a defensive center, like he isn't even a top 15 defensive center, and Shump ain't an offensive player whatsoever.
 

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We're seriously reduced to "you put Lebron on the worst team in the league and he might make the Finals, he might beat a 70+ win team a few times, but he ain't taking them in seven!

:camby:
he wouldnt make it out the second round in the west
lebron can beat the raptors by his god damn self...thats just the current state of the east.
 

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We're seriously reduced to "you put Lebron on the worst team in the league and he might make the Finals, he might beat a 70+ win team a few times, but he ain't taking them in seven!





Yeah, the team that loses by double-digits to Pacers and Detroit is going to be winning 50. Based on WHAT evidence?





Who the hell are TT and Shump then?
Based on them having 2 all stars, shooters, and a good coach.
 

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The team is not built towards love or kyrie's strengths otherwise they would have a defensive center

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and a 3 anf D wing.








The team is BUILT around Lebron, without him it has mismatched pieces.

stop it....
 
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