Let's Be Honest: If Tupac survived or missed the Vegas shooting

[tremonthustler1]

what if Tupac used auto tune?

What if Tupac started using the Migos flow?

 

[The God Poster]

Y'all some weirdos ....go get some fresh air

 

[Wacky D]

Pac was the pinnacle of hiphop and Hollywood in general

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wait. did you just say that pac was the pinnacle of Hollywood? ARE YOU SERIOUS!!??

man I wish I would've read this before the rest of my post below. I wouldn't have bothered.

Back then ESPECIALLY rap revolved around those 2 artist. In fact that was all you heard about from 95-97. Big and Pac, Pac and Big, Suge and Puff, Dre and Snoop.

this is false

completely false.

not to mention, dre & snoop didn't even make it out of '96 without falling off and becoming the bunt of many jokes.

Your also speaking from an aspect of certain artist's exposure being inevitable despite the existence or nonexistence of Pac and Big. If Pac had not died there would be no DMX. X was a force, but he was only embraced because the departure of Big opened up the door for Puff and Jay to usher that Jiggy era bullshyt. The shiny suit thug. And then there was X and the smashed that fake facade bullshyt. X got on because his truths were so far from that hollyweird lane that hiphop was going in. He was dark, gritty, truthful, and unashamed of his flaws.......much like Pac. But if Pac would not have died and Big was still alive there would not have been a lane for X, Jay, Nas, and all the rappers that were influenced by those artist in the late 90's early 00's.

Pac's death was definitely a ripple in the pond that created a butterfly effect on hiphop......to say his death didn't matter is a major ignorant response.

lol.

theres tons of DMX fans that either didn't care about 2pac, or flat out hated the guy.

people act like biggie was embraced for his jiggy raps, but in reality, he caught tons of flack for it all thru his career, and it would've got worse in '97 when puff brought out the shiney suits - which killed a ton of careers. also, jay-z didn't blow up like that off the jiggy raps. he really blew up when he hopped on the ruff ryder wave. yet another reason why DMX would've had about the same amount of success, regardless of whoever was around.

also, you seem to either ignore or not be aware of the fact that before Viacom era, a rapper's shelf life on top of the game wasn't that long. theres a good chance that 2pac & biggie would've been played out before the next crop of rappers took over anyway. it was easy as hell to fall off, even if you didn't REALLY fall off if you catch my drift.

pac & big were middle school music. they'd likely be 2nd-tier by the time I got to high school, just like the other acts that were just as big or bigger(snoop & dre, bone thugs, wutang, etc). pac & big just got immortalized by death so much that people really think they would've never fallen off. that and people like to apply 2000s logic to '90s rap.

 

[NoChillJones]

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wait. did you just say that pac was the pinnacle of Hollywood? ARE YOU SERIOUS!!??

man I wish I would've read this before the rest of my post below. I wouldn't have bothered.





this is false

completely false.

not to mention, dre & snoop didn't even make it out of '96 without falling off and becoming the bunt of many jokes.





lol.

theres tons of DMX fans that either didn't care about 2pac, or flat out hated the guy.

people act like biggie was embraced for his jiggy raps, but in reality, he caught tons of flack for it all thru his career, and it would've got worse in '97 when puff brought out the shiney suits - which killed a ton of careers. also, jay-z didn't blow up like that off the jiggy raps. he really blew up when he hopped on the ruff ryder wave. yet another reason why DMX would've had about the same amount of success, regardless of whoever was around.

also, you seem to either ignore or not be aware of the fact that before Viacom era, a rapper's shelf life on top of the game wasn't that long. theres a good chance that 2pac & biggie would've been played out before the next crop of rappers took over anyway. it was easy as hell to fall off, even if you didn't REALLY fall off if you catch my drift.

pac & big were middle school music. they'd likely be 2nd-tier by the time I got to high school, just like the other acts that were just as big or bigger(snoop & dre, bone thugs, wutang, etc). pac & big just got immortalized by death so much that people really think they would've never fallen off. that and people like to apply 2000s logic to '90s rap.

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[Big Boss]

Pac would have been going back to prison

 

[Chris Cool]

pac and biggie woulda fallen off just like everybody else from that era that didn't die.

 

[SunZoo]

Look at scarface , look at Nas

They're legends but not over blown like PAC
Pac would've been one of them

I remember guys on forums use to say PAC was gonna run for governor and shyt if he lived

2pac is top3 tho

You nikkas have lost your minds.

 

[TransJenner]

You nikkas have lost your minds.

PAC was coo and top 3 DOA but he wasn't about to change shyt

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

"he lost a lung"


.... yall know you can replace lungs right?

 

[luckyse7enz]

Definitely think he'd have taken a hiatus from music and focused more on acting. Probably end up playing a great role as a cop in a television drama or series of movies, as legendary gangster rappers have the habit of doing.

 

[SteelCitySoldier]

Pac would have stopped rapping but he was on the cusp of becoming a superstar in Hollywood. I also think he would have had his own label and he would have been successful in everything he did because he was that nikka at that time.

Someone used Drake as an example but they should have used that Lil Wayne run to explain it Pac was on EVERYTHING and everywhere and it was really just starting.

 

[Detroit Wave]

Negged because titty boi --> 2 chainz worked so no reason why makaveli couldnt

 

[Methodical]

Definitely think he'd have taken a hiatus from music and focused more on acting. Probably end up playing a great role as a cop in a television drama or series of movies, as legendary gangster rappers have the habit of doing.

He already played a cop in Gang Related movie

 

[28 Gramz]

Let's be honest

People love to say, "Oh if Pac was alive rapper X Y Z would not be here etc..."

But let's take an honest look at what Tupac/Hip Hop would be like if he either survived the shooting or if it never happened.

1. If he somehow survived
Doctors removed his entire lung. He would not be rapping anymore. He would be the poster child of the "See how far rap can go" narrative. He would probably become an activist against violence or something. Rap money would be gone, Suge would be robbing what was left so he would need the activist/interview money. He'd probably write books, but music would be out of the question. There is a chance he would be in a semi vegetative state and probably die a few years later for medical reasons.

2. If he didn't sustain major injury from the shooting or if it never happened
If he made a full recovery to be honest he would not see much success after 'All Eyez On Me'. He would have an insane rise due to another shooting, but that would taper off quickly. Later in the 90s and early 00s the thug image was dying. Rap was becoming more commercial and rappers had to start really portraying images other than a thug.[\b] We all know Pac wasn't the type to change for anything/anyone so he wouldn't really fit well. Remember he was changing his stage name to Makaveli. I can't think of any major artist that changed their name mid-career and it worked.

He would have moderate success with movies. Low budget movies would pretty much be it. A lot of big name movies/tv shows would not want to be associated with an ex-con rapper who keeps getting shot at. Not a good insurance pitch. Look at guys like LL, Cube and Ludacris. All rappers, but for the most part had pretty clean careers. Keep in mind he died at 25. He would still be making mistakes and being in and out of legal trouble. Could potentially land back in prison.


Overall by now he would probably be similar, maybe even less, than what Nas is today in terms of relevancy. Stop lying to yourself in thinking his death isn't what fueled his legend. He was great, but it would not be like this.

 

[Wacky D]

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I expected this response from somebody who already proved that he didn't know what he was talking about.

lol @ "pac was the pinnacle of Hollywood".