Let's Be Reality: Islam Is A Problem.

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Yep. Most people especially in the right and obviously in the US TOTALLY deny any social or contextual reasons to the rise of extremism. They just say "These people are crazy". Far from that actually, especially ISIS, Hamas or the Muslim brotherhood. These people are organized, thorough and have an actual administrative infrastructure, and take over what the state has not been able to do. But that analysis obviously doesn't sit well because to confront it you would have to give more power to the state (SOCIALISM ALERT!!!).

Funny enough, most arab states had a brand of nationalism mixed with socialism in the 70s-80s, and were secular. That did not sit with the powers that be.

An understated aspect of this whole conversation is that, especially in Europe, it's not so much/only that Islam has become more radical (there has always been extremist pockets in Europe) but...that radicals have islamized. There is no other valuable "alternative" to the mainstream neo-liberal system. Socialism and communisms have been destroyed, and the neo-liberal system itself does not provide a "story" or an inspiration for the future. It's only message is "You're on you own, get your money or it's your fault". There is no social project, nothing people can believe in anymore, as individuals or societies.

So while before people who were against neo-liberalism and all-out capitalism could turn to socialism, communism or "Another world is possible" movements, now they really can't. What's left? Religion, that gives a sense of community and a "purpose". This also explains in part the rise of the "born again" churches in Africa, but in Europe it's Islam (with it's extreme parts) that has provided that alternative.

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If its not a thread on race its a thread on muslims ... Predictable :snoop::dead:
 

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Islam IS a problem ..but mostly for muslims more than anyone else..Any society that embraces Islam as a theocracy rolls itself back into the middle ages and people start to flee.With technology advancing it will soon be apparent even to the most brainwashed that wherever religion doesnt exist people are alot less miserable so

It WILL eventually die off but the question is how many people will it destroy on the way out
 

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Islam IS a problem ..but mostly for muslims more than anyone else..Any society that embraces Islam as a theocracy rolls itself back into the middle ages and people start to flee.With technology advancing it will soon be apparent even to the most brainwashed that wherever religion doesnt exist people are alot less miserable so

It WILL eventually die off but the question is how many people will it destroy on the way out

Every Muslim country that has embraced political Islam as a result of the sheer hopelessness of their situation (politically, socially and economically) has come to realize its a garbage system they want no part of

The only strength the Islamists have are as bedrocks of resistance, thats it

Ask the average Iranian what they think of the Mullahs...ask the average Afghan what they think of the Taliban...

Luckily, Uncle Sam will always be sure to exploit these situations to ensure grievances continue to exist to provide fuel for the Islamist fire...at times even stoking the fire themselves
 

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Every Muslim country that has embraced political Islam as a result of the sheer hopelessness of their situation (politically, socially and economically) has come to realize its a garbage system they want no part of

The only strength the Islamists have are as bedrocks of resistance, thats it

Ask the average Iranian what they think of the Mullahs...ask the average Afghan what they think of the Taliban...

Luckily, Uncle Sam will always be sure to exploit these situations to ensure grievances continue to exist to provide fuel for the Islamist fire...at times even stoking the fire themselves

Thats true too..Uncle sam and his Israeli and Anglo french accomplices have certainly kept the ball rolling..without them the house of saud for example would have been burned to the ground a long time ago...i doubt they would have made it into the 1980s and the Ayatollah Khomeini certainly wouldnt have taken over Iran.

On the bright side Uncle sam is rapidly running out of money and political will to keep propping up the Inbred Gulf monarchies...In a way the Gulf despots know this so they keep the Jihadists around as an excuse to keep Uncle sams legions around...they know a full withdrawal will bring a quick and brutal end for them.
 
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