Let's Talk Afro-Geopolitics: Future of the Eastern African community,Somali areas & Ethiopia

[Cognito]

I'll be taking about the extremely interesting future of eastern african countries including(Kenya,South Sudan,Somalia,Djibouti,Ethiopia,Eritrea,Tanzania,Uganda,Rwanda,Burundi)

Kenya & Somalia are going to court over disputed maritime border. Which Somalia currently looks like to be winning the case.

The Eastern African Federation is a proposed political union of the six of the EAC Burundi, Kenya, Rwanda, South Sudan, Tanzania and Uganda– as a single federation of sovereign states.As of 2017, six states have expressed support for the union, but negotiations continue concerning issues such as the extent of members extent of soviergn status & timing of implementation.
EAF is planning is to debated & worked over in the next 10 years with monetary union planned. This union would greatly aid in gaining investment & transfer of resources.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

@Grano-Grano @Trajan @Isiolaikipia

 

[Starman]

I'll be taking about the extremely interesting future of eastern african countries including(Kenya,South Sudan,Somalia,Djibouti,Ethiopia,Eritrea,Tanzania,Uganda,Rwanda,Burundi)

Kenya & Somalia are going to court over disputed maritime border. Which Somalia currently looks like to be winning the case.

The Eastern African Federation is a proposed political union of the six of the EAC Burundi, Kenya, Rwanda, South Sudan, Tanzania and Uganda– as a single federation of sovereign states.As of 2017, six states have expressed support for the union, but negotiations continue concerning issues such as the extent of members extent of soviergn status & timing of implementation.
EAF is planning is to debated & worked over in the next 10 years with monetary union planned. This union would greatly aid in gaining investment & transfer of resources.

Are you East African? Would this federation have any implications for Blacks in America?

 

[Grano-Grano]

Swahili and Somalis been making money together. Those relationships should help us dominate our corner of Africa. Land disputes and all that need to be work on to ease ethnic tensions.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Swahili and Somalis been making money together. Those relationships should help us dominate our corner of Africa. Land disputes and all that need to be work on to ease ethnic tensions.

Yall been making money together since the medieval era.

 

[Son of cali]

Since when did South Sudan speak Kswahili?

 

[Son of cali]

Swahili and Somalis been making money together. Those relationships should help us dominate our corner of Africa. Land disputes and all that need to be work on to ease ethnic tensions.

Our border in Kenya is very confusing. I thought our border ended in Tana River but Ogaden camels are grazing inside Kitui county we live in small numbers but citizens of the county complained about us a lot of times.

Apart from employed workers the rest are armed nomads who are illegals in the county. They are trying to block them from the county because they cause too much disruption lmao.

 

[Grano-Grano]

Yall been making money together since the medieval era.

They were the plug for the interior of the southeast

 

[Cognito]

Are you East African? Would this federation have any implications for Blacks in America?

Yes I am. And I don't really think this would have any major effects on Blacks in america. This is more of way to increase economic viability & geopolitical power of this area. This also would help South Sudan & Burundi a lot in aiding the policies of those countries. They would have much bigger chip in negotiations with China.

 

[Cognito]

John Magufuli

President of Tanzania
Probably biggest constraint in the EAC/EAF
Who has very hardline stance on movement on people & goods especially from Kenya to instead focus on protection Tanzania's growing industries
John Magufuli costly policies that are killing EAC dream

Tanzania's new fiery President Dr John Magufuli said the decision was in line with the country's laws. "And in that line, those who sneak with their livestock into this country will not be spared. We will confiscate them and do to them according to what our laws instruct," said Magufuli. "Even them (the other country) can deal with the livestock as per their laws." Maseno University Economics lecturer Dr Scolastica Odhiambo described some of Tanzania’s barriers as “silent embargo,” since they were not so pronounced to be seen as contravening the East African Common Market Protocol. The protocol allows for the free movement of people and goods within the region. Dr Odhiambo says that Kenyans who trade in processed milk, processed cooking fat, and processed juices are frustrated at the border of Tanzania as Magufuli works on a policy to protect Tanzania’s infant manufacturing industry. "They try to silently stop that export in their country,” explains Odhiambo.

She adds that Tanzania charges between $500 (Sh51,750) and $1,000 (Sh103,501) as work permit fees in what is aimed at controlling the number of professionals entering their country. Such a fee, for example, is an effective deterrent to the influx of casual workers in Tanzania. Although most of the EAC member counties are also members of Comesa, Tanzania is only a member of EAC and SADC, a position that is aimed at stemming the inflow of goods across their borders. When Safaricom went for its initial public offering (IPO) in 2008, the Kenyan telecommunications firm did a lot of advertising in Tanzania, clearly in the spirit of financial integration in the region. However, reckons Dr Odhiambo, very few Tanzanians bought shares after they were advised against moving money from their home country. Even as Kenya, Rwanda, Uganda and Burundi, have endeavoured to put their best feet forward so the nascent Regional Economic Community can succeed, Tanzania has not. This is especially the case after the election of Magufuli as the Head of State of East Africa’s second largest economy. In what signals the country's stay in a forced marriage, Tanzania's performance in a number of dimensions of regional integration has lagged behind that of its East African peers, according to the Africa Regional Integration Index (ARII), a tool designed to measure the level of regional integration among African countries.


In what signals the country's stay in a forced marriage, Tanzania's performance in a number of dimensions of regional integration has lagged behind that of its East African peers, according to the Africa Regional Integration Index (ARII), a tool designed to measure the level of regional integration among African countries. The index is a collaborative effort between the African Development Bank (AfDB), the African Union Commission (AUC) and the Economic Commission for Africa (ECA). The index was created using five dimensions including regional infrastructure, regional trade, productive integration, free movement of people and financial and macro-economic integration.

While the four countries have performed well above the African average, Tanzania has not. Kenya, the largest economy in the region, set the example in regional integration by leading in three of the five dimensions that were used to design the index including regional trade, productive integration and free movement of people. Tanzania was last in three dimensions including regional infrastructure, free movement of people, financial and macroeconomic integration. In essence, the report said, it is easier for a Tanzanian to enter Kenya and set a business than it is for a Kenyan to get into Tanzania and do the same.

In 2016, for example, the World Bank Group in its fact book for migration and remittances, flagged off Tanzania to Rwanda, Tanzania to Uganda and Tanzania to Kenya as some of the highest cost of corridors of receiving remittances for $200 (Sh20,700). The restrictions by Tanzanian authorities are especially hard on Kenyans compared to citizens of the other EAC member states, rekindling the suspicious relationship the two countries had during the Cold War when Dar-es-Salaam pursued a socialist policy while Nairobi followed in the footsteps of its colonial masters in trying to perfect a free market economy.

 

[Cognito]

TDLR:
Tanzania has massive economic rivalry with Kenya
That Magufuli is continuing this in his focus on making Tanzania the strongest economy in the region with focus on reducing Kenya's power & exporting into his country to instead build up the industries of his citizens to be net exporters & place socialist policies to aid the native in wealth transfer & aid.
Kenya is the opposite with very open market economy where battle between people to gain power in industries which currently Indians & Somalis make up a large part of due their great connections & capital raising abilities that majority of Kenyan people do not have due to the lack of connections around the world that Gujaratis & Somalis have in abundance due to diasporas from around the globe.
@Diasporan Royalty
@Grano-Grano

 

[Cognito]

Since when did South Sudan speak Kswahili?

Language Franca will be Swahili & English

 

[The Singularity]

Our border in Kenya is very confusing. I thought our border ended in Tana River but Ogaden camels are grazing inside Kitui county we live in small numbers but citizens of the county complained about us a lot of times.

Apart from employed workers the rest are armed nomads who are illegals in the county. They are trying to block them from the county because they cause too much disruption lmao.

Nomads are only found along the border of Kitui not inside the county. The government cleared the place up afew months ago.

 

[Cognito]

World Development Indicators - Google Public Data Explorer
Here's the GDP per Capita growth visualized in a line chart.
Kenya,Djibouti,Tanzania,Ethiopia have the healthiest growth currently but still needs to be at higher rate
Uganda,Somalia,Rwanda have potential growth & if policies continue & terror is eliminated in Somalia & Uganda imo has a lot of potential.
Burundi & South Sudan are currently messes that need large government institutions made,order of law & good leadership.
Eritreans are leaving in mass out of the prison complex that is Eritrea so they really aren't making moves.

 

[Cognito]

This not just a East African problem but the EU is extremely predatory to the economic growth & exportation in East African countries.
EU-Africa free trade agreement ‘destroys’ development policy, says Merkel advisor
https://www.globalresearch.ca/why-e...partnership-agreement-epa-with-the-eu/5550958
How the EU could spur African growth, instead of making more bad trade deals
If I was position I'd try to increase relations & trade with China & South East Asian countries.
I'd think this would be a extremely positive economic relationship leading to more growth.