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Dudes are really being fukking obtuse about what a ghostwriter is in Hip Hop...
In Hip Hop, the rapper is automatically assumed to have written the verses unless stated otherwise...
If there are 5 people credited on a song...and we do not know who the 4th person is and that person is listed 6 times in an album...and he's writing bars...that's a damn ghostwriter...
Producers and artists sampled receive writing credit...rappers these days be having people credited on a damn song
Ghostwriting in Hip Hop is passing off your bars as your own...
This is from a damn ghostwriter...
This Ghostwriter Takes Us Inside Hip-Hop's Secret Society
MTV: Some writers receive writing credit, some do not. It's assumed that being a ghostwriter means that you receive no traditional writing credit. Can you break that down?
Aaron: You're still a ghostwriter if you're getting credit, the difference is if it's public knowledge. When you look at album credits and track one has five or six names on it. The artist, you know his real name, that name may be first. The second name is the producer's name, so that name is there. Let's say there's a Michael Jackson sample, so you might have Michael Jackson's name there. You might have Quincy Jones' name there, because he produced the original Michael Jackson record. So now you got so-and-so rapper, so-and-so producer, M. Jackson from the sample, Q. Jones from the sample and then there's a fifth name and it becomes, "Who's that fifth name?" And that's when people start doing research and trying to figure out who's this fifth name on this record. And that's when you start getting to the bottom of things. You gotta really read the credits. There's a lot of musicians on the record, you may have 10 names, it doesn't mean 10 people wrote the rhymes.
It's that simple and nikkas trying to change the rules...
What full verses did QM write?The QM situation existed because 1. Meek called him out for it on Twitter, the average person is not studying liner notes and knowing the game like that and 2. Actual reference tracks with word for word verses leaked. Even if people saw the writing credit, most would have gave Drake the benefit of the doubt and assumed QM wrote a line or two or the hook and nothing more, like how Kanye does it
The only people that care are thecoli Drake haters bruhLiterally nobody cared when it came out she did Pick Up The Phone or any of the other hits. Drake is literally the only topic that really gets people going in 2016.
This isn't even rap, shyts crazy.
Co Writers coming together and putting out anthems to make anthems is what has made loads of classic, timeless music.
Nah people cared, but to be fair when it came out that Travis did her part we weren't really surprised because it's Travis lmao. Obviously Drake is a much bigger star then Travis and been around way longer soLiterally nobody cared when it came out she did Pick Up The Phone or any of the other hits. Drake is literally the only topic that really gets people going in 2016.
This isn't even rap, shyts crazy.
Co Writers coming together and putting out anthems to make anthems is what has made loads of classic, timeless music.
i must admit i hav wondered about this. i mean, surely he knew. i know 'if your reading' was more boi1da's project so maybe he didnt know to what extent quentin was involved.In 2012 Drake's own camp....his producer 40 specifically....was talking about "if you get help with your bars, you don't need to be in rap". At the same time, Drake was obviously using a writer (Hush) on "Take Care". It doesn't matter if A. Palman was credited because #1 Drake was passing off the work as his own and #2 nobody knew who the fukk A. Palman was.
i must admit i hav wondered about this. i mean, surely he knew. i know 'if your reading' was more boi1da's project so maybe he didnt know to what extent quentin was involved.